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Tripped aces? Do you play them here? Tripped aces? Do you play them here?

08-10-2016 , 12:44 AM
Is this a spewy 3bet? Wasn't really sure what to do. Both players are loose passive whales.
GTECH G2 (Boss) - C$0.50 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 97.7 BB (VPIP: 52.56, PFR: 8.76, 3Bet Preflop: 2.16, Hands: 605)
Hero (BB): 346.26 BB
UTG: 227.02 BB (VPIP: 47.45, PFR: 29.07, 3Bet Preflop: 13.75, Hands: 1,041)
MP: 143.46 BB (VPIP: 54.08, PFR: 6.31, 3Bet Preflop: 2.25, Hands: 2,024)
CO: 91.5 BB (VPIP: 54.91, PFR: 38.81, 3Bet Preflop: 25.42, Hands: 628)
BTN: 60.3 BB (VPIP: 49.62, PFR: 2.77, 3Bet Preflop: 4.47, Hands: 651)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K A A A

fold, MP calls 1 BB, CO raises to 4.5 BB, BTN calls 4.5 BB, fold, Hero raises to 19.5 BB, fold, CO calls 15 BB, BTN calls 15 BB

Flop: (60 BB, 3 players) T K 3
Hero bets 60 BB, CO raises to 72 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 40.8 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 12 BB

Turn: (244.8 BB, 3 players) 6

River: (244.8 BB, 3 players) J

Hero shows K A A A (One Pair, Aces)

Main Pot [182.4 BB]: (Pre 43%, Flop 26%, Turn 39%)
Side Pot#1 [62.4 BB]: (Pre 59%, Flop 33%, Turn 50%)

CO shows K 4 9 Q (Straight, King High)

Main Pot [182.4 BB]: (Pre 32%, Flop 62%, Turn 42%)
Side Pot#1 [62.4 BB]: (Pre 41%, Flop 67%, Turn 50%)

BTN shows K 5 7 A (One Pair, Kings)

Main Pot [182.4 BB]: (Pre 26%, Flop 12%, Turn 19%)

CO wins 238.8 BB
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08-10-2016 , 03:53 AM
wp
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08-10-2016 , 05:15 AM
i would do the same.

We have some chance that CO folds and we get a nice SPR against BTN alone or CO calls and BTN gets it in...

The flop is standard i think. You having the K-blocker, Ah, with that SPR...

Let`s see if someone would have played this hand another way.
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08-10-2016 , 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Controlling
Let`s see if someone would have played this hand another way.
I can think of one person
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08-10-2016 , 07:47 AM
Annoying spot pre considering MP's stack size imo
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08-10-2016 , 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Controlling

Let`s see if someone would have played this hand another way.
Its me.
Why you bet the flop?
Do we betting for value here??
Or do you belive someone of this guys is going to fold on this kind of flop anything of his range? For sure not!
My suggestion: we are first to act and what is wrong about checking the flop and get all the information for free?
Oh wait...
Just trust your instincts!

Last edited by MartinK1979; 08-10-2016 at 08:53 AM.
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08-10-2016 , 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by MartinK1979
Its me.
Why you bet the flop?
Do we betting for value here??
Or do you belive someone of this guys is going to fold on this kind of flop anything of his range? For sure not!
My suggestion: we are first to act and what is wrong about checking the flop and get all the information for free?
Oh wait...
Just trust your instincts!
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08-10-2016 , 03:05 PM
given stack sizes I think your approach is decent.
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08-10-2016 , 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by MartinK1979
Its me.
Why you bet the flop?
Do we betting for value here??
Or do you belive someone of this guys is going to fold on this kind of flop anything of his range? For sure not!
My suggestion: we are first to act and what is wrong about checking the flop and get all the information for free?
Oh wait...
Just trust your instincts!
His instincts should have caught that the CO had a pair, gutshot and a flush draw and that the last ace was dead to the BB? If your instincts are that strong: please share!
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08-10-2016 , 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Loctus
LMAO with tears in my eyes. THX!!!
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08-10-2016 , 11:55 PM
This forum is getting wild.

op: wp
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08-11-2016 , 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by tofurocks
I can think of one person
I'd play it different. Seriously.
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08-11-2016 , 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by .isolated
I'd play it different. Seriously.
What do you prefer here?
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08-11-2016 , 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by HawkesDave
His instincts should have caught that the CO had a pair, gutshot and a flush draw and that the last ace was dead to the BB? If your instincts are that strong: please share!
I don't really know what some has here to be honest. BUT I don't like betting this kind of flops with just one pair (here overpair).

Whats the problem to check as a preflop raiser and take a look what both opponents are doing after us?? Whats the f.....problem???
Do we have to protect our 3 betting range here aginst this fishy non regulars? -No.
Do we have to rep our range here? -No.
Do we betting for value here? No. We have just one pair and drawing very thin to trips...One pair in Omaha is not worth to go broke imo.
Do we have to stack off here everytime because of the awful stacksizes? -Of course no.
Do we bet and hope someone is going to fold - Yes.

Bet and hope...
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08-11-2016 , 02:11 AM
No trollarino in my threadarino pls
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Originally Posted by MartinK1979
Do we betting for value here?
Yes
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Originally Posted by MartinK1979
Do we bet and hope someone is going to fold
Yes
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check as a preflop raiser and take a look what both opponents are doing after us?
No
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08-11-2016 , 03:26 AM
On this flop a one pair hand is betting for value vs 2 villians ?
Are you kidding me???
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08-11-2016 , 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by MartinK1979
On this flop a one pair hand is betting for value vs 2 villians ?
Are you kidding me???
Dude come on

Look at the SPR please. Do you know how much equity we need to make this shove profitable?
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08-11-2016 , 05:30 AM
I feel that going broke with just one pair vs. 2 opponents with wide calling range on this kind of flops is -EV play.
I don't need any math here dude. Poker is not just only a game of correct calculations imo.
We play this game and we are human with feelings and emotions and not robots who don't make any (emotional) mistakes ever. Our emotions are not always in balance with our action.

And if you are saying it HAVE to be +EV becuase of this and this...than GTO wins!
But I f*** GTO.
I am happy going with my feelings here in this spot and happy to make the right play base on them.

Last edited by MartinK1979; 08-11-2016 at 05:37 AM.
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08-11-2016 , 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Controlling
The flop is standard i think. You having the K-blocker, Ah
Unnecessarily convoluted already.
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08-11-2016 , 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by MartinK1979
But I f*** GTO.
quote of the day imo
meaning you are ****ing the gto way?
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08-11-2016 , 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by MartinK1979
Poker is not just only a game of correct calculations imo.
This is actually what poker boils down to at it's most basic level. It doesn't matter what your opinion is. It is what it is and this fact is not disputable.

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I don't need any math here dude.
For your sake, I hope you're trolling.
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08-11-2016 , 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by .isolated
This is actually what poker boils down to at it's most basic level. It doesn't matter what your opinion is. It is what it is and this fact is not disputable.
Poker is a game between humans (with psychology) and not calculators without emotions.
Everytime you base your decisions not on feelings you get psychic and mentally disordered.
Step by step your soul get ripped.

Last edited by MartinK1979; 08-11-2016 at 06:17 AM.
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08-11-2016 , 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by .isolated
For your sake, I hope you're trolling.
My instincts tell me that he is
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08-11-2016 , 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by tofurocks
My instincts tell me that he is
my instincts are quite sure he isnt
damn, how do we determine now whose instincts are right?
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08-11-2016 , 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by sauhund
my instincts are quite sure he isnt
damn, how do we determine now whose instincts are right?
If he is actually beating 50pl like he claims, I assume that he is trolling because his posts show that he no understanding of even basic poker fundamentals, let alone PLO strategy.
Of course, he could just be running super hot clicking buttons and actually be this clueless, but it seems unlikely.
I guess we may never know.
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