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Old 02-06-2012, 07:36 PM   #1
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Top 2p 200bb deep. Spew or std?

Villain is 29/19/5.5
AF:2.5
CR: 12%

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $2(BB)
SB ($423)
BB ($414)
UTG ($289)
UTG+1 ($1,087)
CO ($138)
Hero ($396)

Dealt to Hero J 8 A T

fold, UTG+1 raises to $7, fold, Hero calls $7, fold, BB calls $5

FLOP ($22) T 8 2

BB checks, UTG+1 bets $16.50, Hero calls $16.50, BB folds

TURN ($55) T 8 2 3

UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $40, UTG+1 raises to $175, Hero raises to $372 (AI), UTG+1 calls $197

RIVER ($800) T 8 2 3 7

Hero shows J 8 A T
(Pre 56%, Flop 24.9%, Turn 10.0%)

UTG+1 shows 4 2 2 4
(Pre 44%, Flop 75.1%, Turn 90.0%)

UTG+1 wins $797


didn't cross my mind during the hand but could i just call on the turn and fold to all hearts, re-evaluate on cards like this and call blanks?

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Old 02-06-2012, 07:48 PM   #2
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Re: Top 2p 200bb deep. Spew or std?

No spew imo. This is a line/board you just go broke on.

Allthough i must admitt you can fold OTT if your alarmbells ring and you never saw him c/r blank turns with draws/air.

Nevertheless its just really hard to fold here
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Old 02-06-2012, 10:25 PM   #3
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Re: Top 2p 200bb deep. Spew or std?

I'm not sure, but I think I prefer calling ott, or maybe even folding. It seems like his range will be massive draws that you aren't doing great against, top 2+good side cards, and sets. You can consider calling turn and possibly bluffing some bad rivers when he checks as well.
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Old 02-06-2012, 11:06 PM   #4
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Re: Top 2p 200bb deep. Spew or std?

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I'm not sure, but I think I prefer calling ott, or maybe even folding. It seems like his range will be massive draws that you aren't doing great against, top 2+good side cards, and sets. You can consider calling turn and possibly bluffing some bad rivers when he checks as well.
yeah, calling seems like a viable option. we can make folds otr if a heart comes that are correct 99%, since if he doesn't have a set, he's bound to have SFD+FD or an overpair with hearts. if it's a blank then too bad, we get stacked. if a non-heart straight filling river comes, i think we have to fold too since he shouldn't really be bluffing those against our range. because as he's so likely to have nfd, he should be putting us on a lot of straightdraws. overpairs he probably check more often than bet. sets he either checks or bets, and we're beat.

too bad i was in wtf, seriously? mode, thought for 2 seconds if i wanna fold, decided no and slammed it in

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Old 02-06-2012, 11:20 PM   #5
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Re: Top 2p 200bb deep. Spew or std?

If he is checking the river, don't we check behind almost always with 2 pair?

I am in the "check it back on the turn" camp though. If he bets the turn, we have to call. Probably call blank rivers to a half pot bet, (cause of missed fds). Fold to psb.
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Old 02-06-2012, 11:23 PM   #6
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All the above thoughts seem
Good, I think Ye better the player here the more likely it is we see a set here, even tho they are few and far between. On other hand,
He could be doing this light as we are at the top of our range,
In thy case we should go with it. This hand is tricky!!!! Would like to see more responses
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Old 02-07-2012, 02:50 AM   #7
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Re: Top 2p 200bb deep. Spew or std?

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All the above thoughts seem
Good, I think Ye better the player here the more likely it is we see a set here, even tho they are few and far between. On other hand,
He could be doing this light as we are at the top of our range,
In thy case we should go with it. This hand is tricky!!!! Would like to see more responses
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broken enter key? =D

hard to read, i liked our hand OTF and def thought we had the best hand here. but his turn raise would put a red flag up -- i would've thought he hit trip 3's. interesting hand and difficult spot to get away from.
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broken enter key? =D

hard to read, i liked our hand OTF and def thought we had the best hand here. but his turn raise would put a red flag up -- i would've thought he hit trip 3's. interesting hand and difficult spot to get away from.
Lol nah on my phone! Still amateur using it haha
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Old 02-07-2012, 03:36 AM   #9
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Re: Top 2p 200bb deep. Spew or std?

just pay more attn to how he plays his draws/ if he likes semi bluffing. if not then turns a xb imo.

ur either a. betting for value v ops+draw, wraps, pr+draw type hands and if hes betting all his draws ott then hes either x/f or x/r and we dont like being x/r'd
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Re: Top 2p 200bb deep. Spew or std?

I'd probably bet/fold the turn.
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