The successful bluff thread

[MastaAces]

Poker Stars, $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 2 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BB: $504.46 (252.2 bb)
Hero (SB): $556.16 (278.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J 4 4 Q
Hero raises to $6, BB raises to $18, Hero calls $12

Flop: ($36) 5 2 3 (2 players)
BB bets $22, Hero calls $22

Turn: ($80) K (2 players)
BB bets $56, Hero raises to $151.75, BB calls $95.75

River: ($383.50) T (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $364.41, BB folds

Spoiler:

Results: $383.50 pot ($0.50 rake)
Final Board: 5 2 3 K T
BB mucked and lost (-$191.75 net)
Hero mucked J 4 4 Q and won $383.00 ($191.25 net)

i called flop planning to make a move on turn+river (see above?), not to make the flush. i was actually hoping no more spades would come for several reasons.

[Jabonator]

One for both bluff threads from my last session.

Party, $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13331892

Hero (BTN): $118.84 (237.7 bb)
SB: $78.01 (156 bb)
CO: $18.02 (36 bb)
MP: $50.75 (101.5 bb)
BB: $50 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with J 7 T 5
2 folds, Hero raises to $1.31, SB calls $1.06, BB calls $0.81

Flop: ($3.93) 9 5 3 (3 players)
SB bets $2.80, BB folds, Hero calls $2.80

Turn: ($9.53) 6 (2 players)
SB bets $6.79, Hero raises to $24.50, SB calls $17.71

River: ($58.53) 2 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $55.61, SB folds

Spoiler:

Results: $58.53 pot ($2.92 rake)
Final Board: 9 5 3 6 2
Hero mucked J 7 T 5 and won $55.61 ($27 net)
SB mucked and lost (-$28.61 net)

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[sauhund]

Originally Posted by MastaAces

Poker Stars, $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 2 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BB: $504.46 (252.2 bb)
Hero (SB): $556.16 (278.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J 4 4 Q
Hero raises to $6, BB raises to $18, Hero calls $12

Flop: ($36) 5 2 3 (2 players)
BB bets $22, Hero calls $22

Turn: ($80) K (2 players)
BB bets $56, Hero raises to $151.75, BB calls $95.75

River: ($383.50) T (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $364.41, BB folds

Spoiler:

Results: $383.50 pot ($0.50 rake)
Final Board: 5 2 3 K T
BB mucked and lost (-$191.75 net)
Hero mucked J 4 4 Q and won $383.00 ($191.25 net)

i called flop planning to make a move on turn+river (see above?), not to make the flush. i was actually hoping no more spades would come for several reasons.

excellent bluff here for a change!
wp!

[MastaAces]

Originally Posted by sauhund

excellent bluff here for a change!
wp!

thanks! i was trying to raise the bar a little... found this thread, and without naming any names, it felt way to many hands were just weak bluffs or successful flop c-bets with 5 outs.

edit: haha, i just noticed the raw hand history looked like this:
*** RIVER *** [5h 2s 3s Kd] [Td]
BB: checks
Hero: bets $364.41 and is all-in
BB: folds [Ac 4d]
Uncalled bet ($364.41) returned to Hero

... i didn't know he opted to show two cards. he folded second nuts... even more kudos for me?

a zoom hand from today so no conversion obv.

PokerStars Zoom Hand #xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: Omaha Pot Limit ($1/$2) - 2012/06/---------- CET
Table 'Menkib II' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Player 1 ($158.93 in chips)
Seat 2: HERO ($330.81 in chips)
Seat 3: VILLAIN ($220.12 in chips)
Seat 4: Player 2 ($798.23 in chips)
Seat 5: Player 3 ($808.10 in chips)
Seat 6: Player 4 ($1517.67 in chips)
HERO: posts small blind $1
VILLAIN: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO [9s 6c Ad Tc]
Player 2: folds
Player 3: folds
Player 4: folds
Player 1: folds
HERO: raises $4 to $6
VILLAIN: calls $4
*** FLOP *** [4d 9d Td]
HERO: bets $8.59
VILLAIN: calls $8.59
*** TURN *** [4d 9d Td] [4s]
HERO: bets $20.90
VILLAIN: raises $35.10 to $56
HERO: raises $35.10 to $91.10
VILLAIN: calls $35.10
*** RIVER *** [4d 9d Td 4s] [7c]
HERO: bets $208.58
VILLAIN: folds
Uncalled bet ($208.58) returned to HERO
HERO collected $208.58 from pot
HERO: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $211.38 | Rake $2.80
Board [4d 9d Td 4s 7c]
Seat 1: Player 1 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: HERO (small blind) collected ($208.58)
Seat 3: VILLAIN (big blind) folded on the River
Seat 4: Player 2 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Player 3 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Player 4 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[coon74]

Originally Posted by MastaAces

a zoom hand from today but it allows conversion obv.

Fyp. (I just erased the word 'Zoom' and the line 'HERO: doesn't show hand', then fixed your tweaks by erasing spaces in player names and adding compatible time/date and hand number 1. Is it so difficult?! P.S.: I'm not even regged on Stars!) As for the bluff itself, it's very natural and beautiful, wp.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $158.93 (79.5 bb)
Hero (SB): $330.81 (165.4 bb)
BB: $220.12 (110.1 bb)
UTG: $798.23 (399.1 bb)
MP: $808.10 (404.1 bb)
CO: $1,517.67 (758.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9 6 A T
4 folds, Hero raises to $6, BB calls $4

Flop: ($12) 4 9 T (2 players)
Hero bets $8.59, BB calls $8.59

Turn: ($29.18) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $20.90, BB raises to $56, Hero raises to $91.10, BB calls $35.10

River: ($211.38) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $208.58, BB folds

Spoiler:

Results: $211.38 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 4 9 T 4 7
Hero mucked 9 6 A T and won $208.58 ($102.89 net)
BB mucked and lost (-$105.69 net)

[MastaAces]

Originally Posted by coon74

Fyp. (I just erased the word 'Zoom' and the line 'HERO: doesn't show hand', then fixed your tweaks by erasing spaces in player names and adding compatible time/date and hand number 1. Is it so difficult?! P.S.: I'm not even regged on Stars!) As for the bluff itself, it's very natural and beautiful, wp.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $158.93 (79.5 bb)
Hero (SB): $330.81 (165.4 bb)
BB: $220.12 (110.1 bb)
UTG: $798.23 (399.1 bb)
MP: $808.10 (404.1 bb)
CO: $1,517.67 (758.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9 6 A T
4 folds, Hero raises to $6, BB calls $4

Flop: ($12) 4 9 T (2 players)
Hero bets $8.59, BB calls $8.59

Turn: ($29.18) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $20.90, BB raises to $56, Hero raises to $91.10, BB calls $35.10

River: ($211.38) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $208.58, BB folds

Spoiler:

Results: $211.38 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 4 9 T 4 7
Hero mucked 9 6 A T and won $208.58 ($102.89 net)
BB mucked and lost (-$105.69 net)

nerd itt

just kidding i figured there was a way to get around it, but didn't bother putting time into figuring it out since i already know how to ctrl+h in notepad.

thanks for the compliment! i kinda liked you describing my bluff using that word, so i wrote a song about it!

[lifes3ps]

Originally Posted by MastaAces

Poker Stars, $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 2 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BB: $504.46 (252.2 bb)
Hero (SB): $556.16 (278.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J 4 4 Q
Hero raises to $6, BB raises to $18, Hero calls $12

Flop: ($36) 5 2 3 (2 players)
BB bets $22, Hero calls $22

Turn: ($80) K (2 players)
BB bets $56, Hero raises to $151.75, BB calls $95.75

River: ($383.50) T (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $364.41, BB folds

Spoiler:

Results: $383.50 pot ($0.50 rake)
Final Board: 5 2 3 K T
BB mucked and lost (-$191.75 net)
Hero mucked J 4 4 Q and won $383.00 ($191.25 net)

i called flop planning to make a move on turn+river (see above?), not to make the flush. i was actually hoping no more spades would come for several reasons.

river sizings a bit suspicious imo, i just have a hard time believe youd pot 45 here tbh, ehh i guess your allin---but ehhhh my guts saying 240-265 looks more credible

[Jabonator]

Very rarely less than allin looks more credible when you're able to go allin and rep the nuts, imo.

[Johan5390]

think u should raise flop vs that sizing and also make it bigger ott to set up for more natural river shove, still nh nonetheless

[lifes3ps]

Originally Posted by Jabonator

Very rarely less than allin looks more credible when you're able to go allin and rep the nuts, imo.

like johan said, bigger ott

setting up a psb ship is the new overbet bluff for plo....youll get it....wait for it....eventually?...

[MastaAces]

Originally Posted by lifes3ps

river sizings a bit suspicious imo, i just have a hard time believe youd pot 45 here tbh, ehh i guess your allin---but ehhhh my guts saying 240-265 looks more credible

Explain every bit of this and your next post please.

[MastaAces]

Originally Posted by Johan5390

think u should raise flop vs that sizing and also make it bigger ott to set up for more natural river shove, still nh nonetheless

Villain would have called three streets had I raised the flop, due to match dynamics (he is Russian).
I agree that turn raise could be bigger, although, this guy is the biggest station so a larger all-in size for river is definitely best.
Please note that I have him covered, so it isn't quite a PSB.

[lifes3ps]

he 3bet and his likely 3betting range airballs this flop except for pr+gs+nfd/2nfd or gs+nfd/2ndfd type hands so youre probably betting smaller relatively smaller (given your turn sizing) than shipping pot on the river. his range is relatively week overall on this river, so your value hands would be betting smaller as well

[MastaAces]

Originally Posted by lifes3ps

he 3bet and his likely 3betting range airballs this flop except for pr+gs+nfd/2nfd or gs+nfd/2ndfd type hands so youre probably betting smaller relatively smaller (given your turn sizing) than shipping pot on the river. his range is relatively week overall on this river, so your value hands would be betting smaller as well

His 3b range should probably only include the range you mentioned... But he is Russian and 3b somewhere around 40% if I recall correctly. Post he is station number one. He also thinks I am a huge nit, so my range is very polarized... Maybe it is a leak of mine but vs this particular opponent I think I played the hand close to perfect. Turn raise could have been a dozen bb larger (as Johan mentioned), but that is nitpicking. If raise flop he will 100% think I am full of ****, due to me slowplaying a fair bit, letting him give me lots of free stacks due to my superior hand reading abilities. I honestly think the only way I win this hand is if I play the turn+river aggressively, not flop. Why not ship pot on river if I am polarized already? I would do the same with the nuts, obviously! His range is very strong on this river given how he thinks I play. Just to be very clear: he thinks I suck and there are literally no bluffs in my range when I raise a this board on turn and shove blank river. Another good reason to shove or is my thinking flawed?
Maybe reads should be included in post from now on

[MastaAces]

Originally Posted by Jabonator

Very rarely less than allin looks more credible when you're able to go allin and rep the nuts, imo.

these are my thoughts exactly! i am sure he'd call with second nuts (which is the hand he had) if i had left a few chips behind.
care to share why you disagree lifes3ps?