The successful bluff thread

[Maffff]

I'm naff at bluffing so post your best bluffs here peeps.

Scores should be awarded for both:

1) Rationale
2) Outrageousness

To get the ball rolling:

On Game, $0.50/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #12995532

UTG: $44 (88 bb)
MP: $36.20 (72.4 bb)
Hero (CO): $47.30 (94.6 bb)
BTN: $45.50 (91 bb)
SB: $43.42 (86.8 bb)
BB: $133.50 (267 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9 7 3 5
UTG raises to $2, MP folds, Hero calls $2, BTN calls $2, SB folds, BB raises to $10.50, UTG folds, Hero calls $8.50, BTN folds

Flop: ($25.50) J T 4 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($25.50) 6 (2 players)
BB bets $19, Hero raises to $36.80 and is all-in, BB folds

Results: $63.50 pot ($3 rake)
Final Board: J T 4 6
Hero mucked 9 7 3 5 and won $60.50 ($31 net)
BB mucked and lost (-$29.50 net)

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Villain plays with a 25% 3-bet and 66% c-bet in a 3 bet pot. Couldn't see him not c-betting that flop with any sort of flush draw... I like my rationale but don't know if I'd done it without my str8 outs so not very outrageous.

Let's see some good ones guys.

[yrmom]

I have a feeling I'll post here often


$0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
iPoker
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG hero ($100) 100bb
UTG+1($129.93) 130bb
CO ($100) 100bb
BTN ($158.38) 158bb
SB ($111.44) 111bb
BB ($15.10) 15bb

Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 6 players) hero is UTG 10 A K 9
hero raises to $3.50, UTG+1 calls $3.50, CO calls $3.50, 1 fold, SB calls $3, 1 fold

Flop: 7 5 5 ($15, 4 players)
SB checks, hero checks, UTG+1 checks, CO checks

Turn: Q ($15, 4 players)
SB checks, hero bets $9, UTG+1 calls $9, 1 fold, SB raises to $26, hero raises to $50, UTG+1 folds, SB folds

Final Pot: $97
hero shows
10 A K 9

hero wins $97 (net +$43.50)



Also, a classic: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/38...kness-1200587/

[GoGetaRealJob]

Hmmm... I'm just gonna be a dick and say brags belong in Beats, Brags and Variance

G'day

EDIT: the above still holds, this is mainly for strat

[napsus]

Originally Posted by Maffff

I'm naff at bluffing so post your best bluffs here peeps.

Scores should be awarded for both:

1) Rationale
2) Outrageousness

To get the ball rolling:

On Game, $0.50/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #12995532

UTG: $44 (88 bb)
MP: $36.20 (72.4 bb)
Hero (CO): $47.30 (94.6 bb)
BTN: $45.50 (91 bb)
SB: $43.42 (86.8 bb)
BB: $133.50 (267 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9 7 3 5
UTG raises to $2, MP folds, Hero calls $2, BTN calls $2, SB folds, BB raises to $10.50, UTG folds, Hero calls $8.50, BTN folds

Flop: ($25.50) J T 4 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($25.50) 6 (2 players)
BB bets $19, Hero raises to $36.80 and is all-in, BB folds

Results: $63.50 pot ($3 rake)
Final Board: J T 4 6
Hero mucked 9 7 3 5 and won $60.50 ($31 net)
BB mucked and lost (-$29.50 net)

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Villain plays with a 25% 3-bet and 66% c-bet in a 3 bet pot. Couldn't see him not c-betting that flop with any sort of flush draw... I like my rationale but don't know if I'd done it without my str8 outs so not very outrageous.

Let's see some good ones guys.

aren't you a bit too shallow for this kinda move?


would like to hear thoughts from yrmom's hand too, what made you think that would work?

[Roy]

You should never check back a flush draw or top pair+ on the flop so your range on the turn looks ridic weak too, i'm surprised he folded. I guess he had total air.

[GoGetaRealJob]

Mafff: flat the turn and stab river if he checks. Ur risking the same amount with more info, villain will never try to bluff river when u flat. Roy is right, obv, but I think the fact that it's hard for u to rep a flush is not that relevant vs a std PLO50 player

Yrmom: assuming u got reads, otherwise this is pretty risky

[napsus]

pretty weird betsizing too from villain for a bluff in maff's hand in my opinion, i think he could have gained the same with a smaller betsize

[Roy]

Originally Posted by napsus

pretty weird betsizing too from villain in maff's hand in my opinion, i think he could have gained the same with a smaller betsize

Ya I was thinking the same thing.

Agree with GGARJ about yrmom's hand - without reads it's suicidal. It's kinda cool though if you do have reads since SB could be thinking that both Hero and UTG+1 are weak given they both checked the flop and be check-raising here as a bluff (or even better with a Q blocker). He could also be checkraising a 5 and fold it fearing QQ. I think for Hero's bluff to be profitable though a lot of things have to be going right:

1) SB has to be capable of bluffing in this spot
2) UTG+1 has to be capable of flatting with a weak/wide range and would have bet the flop with a 5 or 77
3) SB has to be capable of folding a 5xxx to the 3bet

[Hackdeath]

I decide not to bet river as if he has KK/AA he probably calls again given that he called turn (my plan was to bet turn and bluff good rivers). Once he bets though, and with this sizing, it looks like AA/KK even more but he will probably fold to a big raise now, the blocker makes the play much better. He could have also been bluffing, but he probably folds his entire range otr to a c/r. Is making it pot best, or slightly smaller maybe around $14?

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13006481

CO: $64.89 (259.6 bb)
SB: $12.25 (49 bb)
BB: $46.95 (187.8 bb)
UTG: $25 (100 bb)
MP1: $12.50 (50 bb)
Hero (MP2): $25.48 (101.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q T T K
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.70, CO raises to $1.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.80

Flop: ($3.35) 5 8 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($3.35) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $2.60, CO calls $2.60

River: ($8.55) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $3, Hero raises to $17.17, CO folds

Results: $14.55 pot
Final Board: 5 8 8 7 Q
CO mucked and lost (-$7.10 net)
Hero mucked Q T T K and won($7.10 net)

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[Roy]

I like it. I think he can potentially have 64xx or 96xx too and the c/r works well against those too.

[coon74]

Originally Posted by Roy

You should never check back a flush draw or top pair+ on the flop

Btw pls elaborate this because that's what I do all the time (with a bare FD/TP esp as PFR)!
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Due to reconsidered BRM, yesterday's session was my first in euros, first at PLO50+ (half PLO25, half PLO62, to be exact) and first at the speed of 300 hs/hr (I don't remember playing faster than 100 hs/hr before), which made me more insane than usual. It was my birthday as a grinder, though it was spoilt by my sleepiness and losing a stack with AA72r in a preflop all-in in the end.

I knew that SB and BB are regs (e.g. BB raked >€600 in May) but didn't know their playing styles because I hadn't played with them before. BB's SN is the surname of a Nazi criminal which could have driven me even madder.
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€0.25/€0.50 Pot-Limit Omaha Hi, 3 players

SB €22.17
BB €43.50
Hero (BTN) €61.52 T975

Hero raises to €1.75, 2 calls

Flop (€5.25, 3 players): AT8

3 checks

Turn: K

SB checks, BB bets €2.50, Hero raises to €12.75, SB folds, BB calls

River (€30.75, 2 players, eff stack €29): Q

BB checks, Hero bets €17.50, BB folds
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Preflop was a bit loose (top 56% in the PPT 3-handed chart) but it was the button!

I checked the flop as my pair+OESD was devalued by the spade draw possibility.

Ott, I decided to semibluff because it told a good story of QJ, I woulda checked a double belly buster too on the flushdraw flop - I had skipped some cbets before. Idk to what extent the 3rd heart draw was relevant, I woulda just called/checked should it have closed.

And certainly I continued otr because none of the draws (including sets) closed and my pair of tens had no SDV. I could afford small sizing as with QJ it coulda been a thin vbet.

Ofc yrmom is still the exploitation champion, maffff is ahead too as drawing to a str8 on the flushy board was courageous.

[GoGetaRealJob]

hackdeath:

river is fine as played, but I'd much rather c/r turn and barrel river

[coon74]

Ofc I didn't know BTN well as the network is new to me, but he seemed on a LAGgy side. 3betting pre was a bit spewy, I realised it instantly upon hitting the button as always. I cbet this because my perceived 3bet range is wide and has enough str8s/sets. I thought his turn bet was an evident float due to his sizing, called because I hate being floated and c/r'ing as a common response to this, got the river perfect for bluffing off flopped str8s and 2p repping a bare FD, the blocking ace was a bit helpful too. Is such refloating OK? Thanks.
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€0.10/€0.20 Pot-Limit Omaha Hi, 3 players

Hero (SB) €37.77 AAT7
BB €4.60
BTN €30.82

BTN raises to €0.70, Hero reraises to €2.30, BB folds, BTN calls

Flop (€4.80, 2 players): 765

Hero bets €4, BTN calls

Turn (€12.80): K

Hero checks, BTN bets €5, Hero calls

River (€22.80, eff stack €19.52): 9

Hero bets €14, BTN folds

[Roy]

Originally Posted by coon74

Btw pls elaborate this because that's what I do all the time (with a bare FD/TP esp as PFR)!

I was talking about the specific scenario of that hand where it was a 3bet pot HU to the flop and villain checks to us on JT4ss where we have 1.5 PSBs left. I don't think you should check back a bare FD or TP in that scenario too often.

[Kojika]

So many fortunate spews in this thread