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04-18-2017 , 08:56 AM

Daveshoelace

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Good overall for PLO if it gets more people trying it?

https://www.pokerstrategy.com/news/w...-poker/100619/

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04-18-2017 , 11:16 AM

Dymond

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Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 176

Yeah I don't see how it could hurt the game, and if it has a chance of getting more people to play plo it's good!

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04-18-2017 , 04:05 PM

MadDogMoody

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i'll start thinking about 25bb plo now, variance must be insane in these.

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04-18-2017 , 09:02 PM

Maroel

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it is 25bb deep?

If so, is a ****ing joke, they should have gave at least 50bb to make it playable

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04-18-2017 , 09:05 PM

nedprz

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gotta rake that $

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04-18-2017 , 11:11 PM

AveeMaria

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Kinda curious what the average duration of a PLO Spin n Go is going to be relative to the NLH ones.

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04-19-2017 , 01:27 AM

Loctus

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This must be so solveable by bots compared to the NLHE counterpart

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04-19-2017 , 02:23 AM

Talladega

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Seems like a script that just pot everything should do ok in this format lol. Thank god I have my national site were fish sit in with 200bb's in PLO but thinks it hldm! Really really nice gold mine that site!

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04-19-2017 , 06:05 AM

SolarAU

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Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 1,795

Short stack PLO tournament play is a death trap as it is lol. Stars gonna make bank on this feature.

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04-19-2017 , 04:30 PM

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Oink

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Originally Posted by Maroel

it is 25bb deep?

If so, is a ****ing joke, they should have gave at least 50bb to make it playable

Actually it is 50bb. Stars added a level compared to the NLHE Spin & Go so it starts at 5/10 blinds with 500 stacks. However, they also added antes.

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04-19-2017 , 05:15 PM

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Maroel

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Originally Posted by Oink

Actually it is 50bb. Stars added a level compared to the NLHE Spin & Go so it starts at 5/10 blinds with 500 stacks. However, they also added antes.

My brother just told me about 25bb yesterday. I don't know if they changed or my brother was wrong.

If so, well for the guy with some kind of common sense who made the change happens.

Antes sucks anyway, they should remove it too, and maybe it could be an playable game

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04-19-2017 , 06:34 PM

#12

Oink

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Originally Posted by Maroel

I just observed a few PLO Spins, extra level and antes. Maybe Stars changed the structure based on how they played the first day.? Dunno. Just saying what I saw

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04-20-2017 , 04:48 AM

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PokerStars Baard

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Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 461

Hello,

Our goal is to have the PLO and NLHE Spins' runtimes be of approximately equal length. This means that we will probably tinker with the PLO blind structures until that goal is achieved. This might result in different blind structures in PLO for different buy-ins.

Thanks,
Baard

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04-20-2017 , 07:34 AM

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AveeMaria

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fyi the article missed that the SCOOP satellite sng has a $10 cash prize option in addition to the $27, $215 and $2100 tickets. Wasn't able to wrap my head around how the lowest possible reward was ~5x the buy in in a 3 person sng.

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04-20-2017 , 08:55 AM

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Maroel

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Originally Posted by PokerStars Baard

If you want constant traffic on the game, so fun players just get instant in the action, you will need some regulars there, so you should think about using a structure wich allow somebody to actually beat the rake.

NLHE and PLO are different games, you should take that in consideration.

Summarized, more blinds, more beatable the game

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04-21-2017 , 08:24 AM

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White Rook

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25 bb is very beatable by the regs but with huge variance.

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04-21-2017 , 11:11 AM

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Dymond

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Originally Posted by Maroel

If you want constant traffic on the game, so fun players just get instant in the action, you will need some regulars there, so you should think about using a structure wich allow somebody to actually beat the rake.

NLHE and PLO are different games, you should take that in consideration.

Summarized, more blinds, more beatable the game

That's exactly what he just said they're doing.

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04-26-2017 , 07:30 PM

#18

pucmo

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Might be more beatable than Blackjack.

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07-25-2017 , 07:53 AM

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SutOmaksettu

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are any of you beating these? the rake is 8% on the 3d spins, 7% on the 7d and 6% on 15d. can these be beaten?

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07-25-2017 , 08:34 AM

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AveeMaria

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^ Is that the data stars posted? Or have you extrapolated based on your db? 8% rake in a hyper makes it almost impossible to beat.

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07-25-2017 , 08:44 AM

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Loctus

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Haven't played any of these but if they run the same time as a NLHE spin, and have 7-8% rake, then I can't imagine they are beatable. Equities, especially preflop, just run too close in PLO combined with the small stack sizes..

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07-25-2017 , 04:15 PM

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SutOmaksettu

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^^ got the rake %s from here https://spinsng.com/blog/article/oma...-have-arrived/

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