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Old 05-25-2013, 09:32 PM   #1
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***SSPLO Grand Digest - THE MUST-READS***

I've been lamenting the death of the digest tradition, and decided I'd give it one more shot in a different format. Here's the plan:

The OP of this thread will contain all the links to the must-read posts/threads over the years. This includes general strategy, popular milestone posts, wells - and obviously the previous digests.

If you can think of a post or thread that is worthy of being linked to in this thread, post a link and brief description here. It needs to get at least two "seconds" to be added ("+1" -posts) as a link in the OP.

Mods obv reserve the right to veto, and may add links on their own.


SSPLO MUST-READS:

Previous Digests:

January 2011
-IBETUFOLD33: Balancing Act

February 2011
-Elrazor: Continuation betting

April 2011
-Roy: Improving your PLO

November 2011
-GGARJ: Snapping out of Zombie mode: An ode to low volume
-jacktensuited13: Bet sizing
-yrmom: Basics of PLO and starting hand chart
-Alrighty Too: Playing against aces
-Wazz: Participation in the community

December 2011
-GGARJ: Learning how to take a punch


April 2012
-Alrighty Roo: Reg line analysis with HM2
-yrmom: Making Bank - Proper Bankroll Management

June 2012
-napsus: Where should I play?

July 2012
-napsus: Poker players finances: Bankroll management
-napsus: Poker players finances: Savings and investments

August 2012
-coon74: Cashback hunt

October 2012
-yrmom: Discipline, habits

Coaching:

Official SSPLO Coaching Feedback/Credentials thread

Strategy/mindfullness:

Guide to Small Stakes Pot Limit Omaha by Us

~ PLO and Life ~ The art of balance ~

**The Official SSPLO Stats Thread**

Deepstack Vertigo - Theory and Analysis of 250BB+ Play

The Red Line Theory


Guide to Live PLO for NLHE players

Calling a 4-bet PF in PLO


SSPLO HU thread


variance / aiev / meta thread

PLO MTT resources

Milestones:

Elrazor:
So, you want to be a professional poker player?


Crashwhips:
1500th post: Poker and Life

500th post: Mental Game/Poker Mindset Manifesto

Jabonator:
My 1k post: Donkbetting in Pot Limit Omaha

GoGetaRealJob:
3,5k Milestone: Starting Hand Chart for 6max
5k Milestone: The Flop C-Bet Clinic

yrmom:
2222nd post milestone extravaganza!


coon74:
Catch-all milestone (2500th): elimination of rake tilt and more

OmahaDonk:
1111th post: Little Leak Plugs

blopp/Andreas 'Skjerv°y' Torbergsen:
3K Milestone post: 10 points of advice to become a stronger and more successful poker player!

Wells:

Roy

wazz

GoGetaRealJob

Ben Grundy

Dickkemp SNE PLO well

Random awesomeness:

Poker Fiction: Had Everything Lost Everything

Getting my Groove Back

External sources:
-Cardrunners
-Runitonce
-Deucescracked
-Nutblocker



PLO ying & yang:

Mig runbad



Dickkemp rungoot


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Old 05-25-2013, 10:01 PM   #2
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Re: ***SSPLO Grand Digest - THE MUST-READS***

back tomorrow to add threads, feel free to start posting suggestions

I'll most likely sticky this soon, as we need max exposure in the beginning
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Old 05-26-2013, 02:06 PM   #3
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Re: ***SSPLO Grand Digest - THE MUST-READS***

crashwhips 500th: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/15...-tl-dr-947154/

Sweet thread. I can clear my bookmarks
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Old 05-26-2013, 03:17 PM   #4
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Re: ***SSPLO Grand Digest - THE MUST-READS***

Ben Grundys well: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/38...y-well-341480/
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Old 05-26-2013, 03:17 PM   #5
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crashwhips 500th
yea, def worthy, I'll add it

just realised we should have author name with the titles in milestones
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Old 05-26-2013, 03:19 PM   #6
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Old 05-26-2013, 04:39 PM   #7
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Re: ***SSPLO Grand Digest - THE MUST-READS***

You need my awesome graph in there somewhere.


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Old 05-26-2013, 05:14 PM   #8
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Re: ***SSPLO Grand Digest - THE MUST-READS***

Great thread, will spend quite a time reading tonight apparently then.

Thanks
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Old 05-26-2013, 05:44 PM   #9
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Re: ***SSPLO Grand Digest - THE MUST-READS***

This?

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/38...ganza-1229813/
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Old 05-26-2013, 06:48 PM   #10
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lol, bien sur
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Old 05-27-2013, 01:51 AM   #11
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Re: ***SSPLO Grand Digest - THE MUST-READS***

good job on this, tyty
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Old 05-27-2013, 03:18 PM   #12
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Thank you very much for this!

Getting back into PLO and this is exactly what I have been looking for!
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Old 05-27-2013, 04:46 PM   #13
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Re: ***SSPLO Grand Digest - THE MUST-READS***

aight, since we already crossed over to HSPLO with CW's 500th, I figured we can tap into all of 2+2 for quality PLO content.

My first thought was to add Doorbread's "Getting my Groove Back", one of my all-time favorites

Also a milestone post from PG&C wrt transferring over from NLHE
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Old 05-27-2013, 04:54 PM   #14
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Re: ***SSPLO Grand Digest - THE MUST-READS***

haha, also went looking for the pkrtxs well, found it deleted by OP request and noticed it specifically stated "THIS IS NOT A WELL"
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Old 05-28-2013, 01:26 PM   #15
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Re: ***SSPLO Grand Digest - THE MUST-READS***

i added a bit and made the op more informative and easier to read....hope that's ok
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Old 05-28-2013, 01:57 PM   #16
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Re: ***SSPLO Grand Digest - THE MUST-READS***

wp, it's gonna be a while before it's "finished", a process

Also, everyone keep in mind that we really need all suggestions, there's no way me and Napsus will remember every milestone/article out there.

Don't hesitate to suggest ur own stuff, if it's not yet added, we most likely just haven't thought of it.
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Old 05-30-2013, 02:40 PM   #17
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Re: ***SSPLO Grand Digest - THE MUST-READS***

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You need my awesome graph in there somewhere.


I remember reading somewhere and people were questioning how accurate the All-In EV line was. Is it possible that there is something inaccurate in the algorithm or is it certain that this guy really ran that bad over that large of a sample? This makes me want to quit poker.
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Re: ***SSPLO Grand Digest - THE MUST-READS***

All-In EV as implemented in soft is only very slightly inaccurate because trackers can't assign dead hand ranges to those who have folded and think that dead cards are totally random. For all practical purposes, AIEV is the best known approximation to the true EV, removing a chunk of the luck factor (but not the bulk of it) but saving all strategy effects.

Mig is certainly a very unlucky man, though I'm sure he found the right way out of it and is now way stronger in real life than pre-poker. Misluck is useful too.

If you believe you can improve enough to be winning, don't quit poker till the last blood drop, i.e. till you have 6-month expenses in the pocket. It has a lot of life toughness lessons to teach you.
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Re: ***SSPLO Grand Digest - THE MUST-READS***

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All-In EV as implemented in soft is only very slightly inaccurate because trackers can't assign dead hand ranges to those who have folded and think that dead cards are totally random. For all practical purposes, AIEV is the best known approximation to the true EV, removing a chunk of the luck factor (but not the bulk of it) but saving all strategy effects.

Mig is certainly a very unlucky man, though I'm sure he found the right way out of it and is now way stronger in real life than pre-poker. Misluck is useful too.

If you believe you can improve enough to be winning, don't quit poker till the last blood drop, i.e. till you have 6-month expenses in the pocket. It has a lot of life toughness lessons to teach you.
Thank you for this advice! It is greatly appreciated!
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Re: ***SSPLO Grand Digest - THE MUST-READS***

Quasar30: Calling a 4-bet preflop in PLO

This is also covered in bugz' book, "PLO from scratch". But I find it hard to decide whose treatment is better.


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Is it possible that there is something inaccurate in the algorithm or is it certain that this guy really ran that bad over that large of a sample?
This guy didn't run that bad. I'm not sure what is a typical standard deviation of the difference between all-in EV and winnings (does anyone have any data on this?), but assuming it's 100bb/100 (which I think is a reasonable guess), then this guy is 3 standard deviations below the mean. Which means that one out of 700 PLO players will experience such runbad for a one-million hand sample.
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very nice, eldodo, added
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Great thread, im starting with reading all the links in OP.

Thx a lot.

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just added the HU thread and the AIEV/variance thread, I'm still receiving suggestions
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Old 06-26-2014, 11:27 PM   #24
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added coaching thread and the PLO MTT thread
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Old 07-14-2014, 12:54 PM   #25
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hi,

could someone post those tho threads:
milestone post from PG&C wrt transferring over from NLHE

pkrtxs well, found it deleted by OP request and noticed it specifically stated "THIS IS NOT A WELL"

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