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06-05-2010 , 11:58 AM
Seems to me that there's a lot greater awareness of stats when it comes to NLHE, e.g., an unpaired hand will make a pair on the flop 1 in 3 times, or by the river about 1 in 2.

I haven't got a clue, however, how often an unpaired PLO hand will make at least 2 pair on the flop or by the river.

I've just started dabbling in heads up for my sins and feel I'm undervaluing my flopped top pairs or bottom 2 pair hands, etc., because I've not made enough of an adjustment from playing 6Max where I definitely don't get carried away with such flops unless having good redraws as back up.

Anyone know where I might find a bunch of really useful probability odds to know when it comes to heads up PLO?
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06-05-2010 , 04:17 PM
this wont help much.you always have to put him on a range so how often he theoretically flopped the nf or smth. else i useless.otherwise just goggle it
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06-05-2010 , 06:24 PM
Flopped 2 pair is a big hand in HU but obv if you are getting heat with 96xx on K96xx you should be looking to dump. If you are looking to find out odds about how often you flop/turn/river 2 pair and what not I suggest learning how to use the COMBIN() function in excel, it will help your game out doing the math yourself.
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06-06-2010 , 12:57 AM
This should help.
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06-08-2010 , 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by tupai
This should help.
Not really, but thanks for the thought. While there's plenty of literature on the probabilities involved in playing NLHE, it does seem to be thin on the ground for PLO.

Is it really the case that nobody cares what the odds of a single or double suited hand flopping a flush draw are? Or, what the probability of our opponent(s) flopping 2 pair are?

Surely, it's a big help in NLHE to know our opponent's only connect with the flop around a third of the time with unpaired hands? So, wouldn't it be useful to know the likelihood or otherwise of being against a 2 pair hand?

If I could learn only one new probability, it would concern the statistical strength of flopping bottom 2 pair... Obviously, we have to make adjustments for how co-ordinated a flop is and the significance of a villain's betting pattern. We know how good our equity with bottom 2 is against top pairs or overpairs in NLHE, so why not in PLO?
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06-08-2010 , 01:16 PM
Just read and yes, exactly the sort of thing I was after so many thanks for those links. As a matter of interest, how do the findings there inform your play? E.g., Maybe you routinely check-raise a pre-flop raiser's Cbet on a K72r flop? Maybe you always play 5678 fast pre-flop?
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10-27-2015 , 11:37 AM
Hi,

does anyone know what happend to this site?

A few months ago seanpoker was still available.
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10-27-2015 , 07:22 PM
erm i think 5 years happened.

on the flip side you have a whole bunch on software available now that can easily tell you the odds.
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10-28-2015 , 12:58 PM
propokertrolls.com
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10-30-2015 , 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Mt.FishNoob
propokertrolls.com
+1
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