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06-30-2015 , 09:12 AM

#36851

OlyBrah

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 1,362

Nice hand, sir.

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06-30-2015 , 09:22 AM

#36852

apo5tol

veteran

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 2,238

^if i was villain i would be So mad at you.
leaving $30 behind in a $600 pot and sucking out like that...much wow

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06-30-2015 , 09:30 AM

#36853

Made man

journeyman

Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 341

Quote:

Originally Posted by apo5tol

^if i was villain i would be So mad at you.
leaving $30 behind in a $600 pot and sucking out like that...much wow

Gotta work on that EV-line, the universe rewards equity stealing

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06-30-2015 , 09:59 AM

#36854

apo5tol

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Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 2,238

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Originally Posted by Made man

Gotta work on that EV-line, the universe rewards equity stealing

and you suggested doing my prop bet in terms of EV. i c wut u did thur

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07-01-2015 , 03:39 AM

#36855

OlyBrah

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 1,362

Can I be cool now, GGaRJ?

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $5.72 (114.4 bb)
SB: $7.65 (153 bb)
BB: $7.33 (146.6 bb)
UTG: $3.10 (62 bb)
MP: $5.15 (103 bb)
Hero (CO): $5.27 (105.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 3

UTG raises to $0.15, MP folds, Hero calls $0.15, BTN folds, SB calls $0.13, BB folds

Flop: ($0.50) 2

(3 players)
SB bets $0.36, UTG folds, Hero calls $0.36

Turn: ($1.22) 8

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.84, SB calls $0.84

River: ($2.90) 6

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.14, SB folds

Results: $2.90 pot ($0.11 rake)
Final Board: 2

SB mucked and lost (-$1.35 net)
Hero mucked 3

and won $2.79 ($1.44 net)

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07-01-2015 , 07:28 AM

#36856

Didrik

centurion

Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 162

I also just had quads.

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #36959431

BTN: $38.58 (154.3 bb)
SB: $22.94 (91.8 bb)
BB: $48.02 (192.1 bb)
UTG: $39.07 (156.3 bb)
Hero (MP): $25 (100 bb)
CO: $39.87 (159.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with T

UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.85, 2 folds, SB raises to $1.75, BB folds, Hero calls $0.90

Flop: ($3.75) Q

(2 players)
SB bets $1.79, Hero calls $1.79

Turn: ($7.33) K

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($7.33) T

(2 players)
SB bets $3.51, Hero raises to $17.55, SB raises to $19.40 and is all-in, Hero calls $1.85

Spoiler:

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07-01-2015 , 08:10 AM

#36857

Oink

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 10,308

No strat in BBV. But why on earth are you raising river?

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07-01-2015 , 04:39 PM

#36858

oddmonk

enthusiast

Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 68

Random villain snap crai turn. My algorithm for PLO25z is if it seems weird its probably some dumb ****.

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (BTN): $114.77 (459.1 bb)
SB: $7.66 (30.6 bb)
BB: $101.57 (406.3 bb)
UTG: $61.89 (247.6 bb)
MP: $97.56 (390.2 bb)
CO: $25.10 (100.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with K

2 folds, CO raises to $0.85, Hero raises to $2.90, SB calls $2.80, BB folds, CO calls $2.05

Flop: ($8.95) 3

(3 players)
SB checks, CO checks, Hero bets $2.50, SB folds, CO calls $2.50

Turn: ($13.95) J

(2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $6, CO raises to $19.70 and is all-in, Hero calls $13.70

River: ($53.35) A

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $53.35 pot ($2.00 rake)
Final Board: 3

Hero showed K

and won $51.35 ($26.25 net)
CO showed 7

and lost (-$25.10 net)

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07-02-2015 , 08:39 AM

#36859

OlyBrah

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 1,362

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $30.25 (605 bb)
SB: $6.98 (139.6 bb)
BB: $6.80 (136 bb)
Hero (UTG): $5.92 (118.4 bb)
MP: $5.81 (116.2 bb)
CO: $5.52 (110.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 5

Hero raises to $0.17, MP folds, CO raises to $0.58, BTN folds, SB calls $0.56, BB folds

Hero calls $0.41

Flop: ($1.79) 8

(3 players)

SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets $1.11

SB raises to $3.86

Hero folds

CO raises to $4.94 and is all-in, SB calls $1.08

Turn: ($11.67) 9

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($11.67) 9

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $11.67 pot ($0.46 rake)
Final Board: 8

SB showed K

and won $11.21 ($5.69 net)
Hero mucked 5

and lost (-$0.58 net)
CO showed A

and lost (-$5.52 net)

The day I, as a donk at the micros, folds two pair + FD in a 3bet pot correctly.
I think I'm improving.

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07-02-2015 , 09:02 AM

#36860

Loctus

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 11,159

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation

666 trials (Exhaustive)

board: K

Hand	Pot equity	Wins
kh4h3s5s	31.53%	210
AcAhQs4d	5.86%	39
KcKs7c8h	62.61%	417

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07-02-2015 , 09:23 AM

#36861

OlyBrah

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 1,362

Based on the potential ranges I gave them I thought I could have been drawing dead.

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07-02-2015 , 09:59 AM

#36862

Loctus

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 11,159

You are right about that

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07-03-2015 , 04:00 AM

#36863

OlyBrah

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 1,362

Always nice to win a 4 way AIPF.

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $5 (100 bb)
Hero (SB): $5.11 (102.2 bb)
BB: $5.42 (108.4 bb)
UTG: $2.52 (50.4 bb)
MP: $4.65 (93 bb)
CO: $3.86 (77.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A

UTG raises to $0.12, MP raises to $0.43, CO calls $0.43, BTN folds, Hero calls $0.41, BB raises to $2.27, UTG folds, MP calls $1.84, CO raises to $3.86, Hero raises to $5.11, BB raises to $5.42 and is all-in, MP calls $2.38 and is all-in

Flop: ($18.85) 6

(4 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: ($18.85) 8

(4 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($18.85) 3

(4 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $18.85 pot ($0.74 rake)
Final Board: 6

Hero showed A

and won $18.11 ($13 net)
BB mucked A

and lost (-$5.11 net)
MP mucked 5

and lost (-$4.65 net)
CO mucked 2

and lost (-$3.86 net)

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07-03-2015 , 04:17 AM

#36864

joeri

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,238

Always nice if there are a couple of donks in the zoom pool who will just shove it in with crap. 47.2% pre :P

Poker Stars, $2.50/$5 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #36985841

BTN: $561.31 (112.3 bb)
Hero (SB): $721.40 (144.3 bb)
BB: $1,137.06 (227.4 bb)
UTG: $3,813.40 (762.7 bb)
MP: $407.38 (81.5 bb)
CO: $1,758.60 (351.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 5

UTG folds, MP raises to $15, CO folds, BTN raises to $52.50, Hero calls $50, BB calls $47.50, MP raises to $262.50, BTN raises to $561.31 and is all-in, Hero raises to $721.40 and is all-in, BB calls $668.90, MP calls $144.88 and is all-in

Flop: ($2,411.49) Q

(4 players, 3 are all-in)
Turn: ($2,411.49) T

(4 players, 3 are all-in)
River: ($2,411.49) J

(4 players, 3 are all-in)

Spoiler:

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07-03-2015 , 04:20 AM

#36865

sauhund

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 5,936

Quote:

Originally Posted by OlyBrah

Always nice to win a 4 way AIPF.

(4 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: ($18.85) 8

(4 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($18.85) 3

(4 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $18.85 pot ($0.74 rake)
Final Board: 6

Hero showed A

and won $18.11 ($13 net)
BB mucked A

and lost (-$5.11 net)
MP mucked 5

and lost (-$4.65 net)
CO mucked 2

and lost (-$3.86 net)

at first glance looks to be a huge spot for the AAxx guy...
maybe i´m horribly wrong too hehe, just an estimation...

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07-03-2015 , 04:48 AM

#36866

apo5tol

veteran

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 2,238

joeri, whenever i get it in with hands like these, both my suits are always dead and there's like 2 out of my 4 set outs in ppls' hands.
please teach!

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07-03-2015 , 04:57 AM

#36867

joeri

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,238

Quote:

Originally Posted by apo5tol

joeri, whenever i get it in with hands like these, both my suits are always dead and there's like 2 out of my 4 set outs in ppls' hands.
please teach!

Haha, for me too. but posting those will make you feel like an idiot spewmonkey. So i prefer to post setups like this one, because this makes me look like some genius.

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07-03-2015 , 05:10 AM

#36868

OlyBrah

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 1,362

Quote:

Originally Posted by sauhund

at first glance looks to be a huge spot for the AAxx guy...
maybe i´m horribly wrong too hehe, just an estimation...

Mr. AAxx probably got really excited in this spot.

But, similar to Joeri's hand, the guy with 6554ds was a favourite going in!

Goes to show how crazy PLO truly is.

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07-03-2015 , 05:23 AM

#36869

GrimIsCool

veteran

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 3,346

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation

376,992 trials (Exhaustive)

Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
Ac9cJhKh	22.07%	82,786	835
Ah3hQdAs	24.61%	92,350	835
5h5c6h4c	34.47%	129,949	0
2hKdKc2c	18.85%	71,072	0

PLO-L

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07-03-2015 , 05:51 AM

#36870

Loctus

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 11,159

Printing money with the 4556

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07-03-2015 , 05:56 AM

#36871

sauhund

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 5,936

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrimIsCool

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation

376,992 trials (Exhaustive)

Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
Ac9cJhKh	22.07%	82,786	835
Ah3hQdAs	24.61%	92,350	835
5h5c6h4c	34.47%	129,949	0
2hKdKc2c	18.85%	71,072	0

PLO-L

surprised by that, thought having a pair and both fds covered would hurt chances a lot more...

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07-03-2015 , 08:36 AM

#36872

OlyBrah

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 1,362

Quote:

Originally Posted by sauhund

surprised by that, thought having a pair and both fds covered would hurt chances a lot more...

Guess it has to do more with how connected it is, plus the fact that all the cards are low and a lot of my outs and AAxx/KKxx's outs are blocked. There's a lot of higher cards in play in this hand so the chance of binking them are lessened.

Note to self: If two tight opponents are 4bet/5betting each other (which means AAxx at the micros nearly always), call it off pre with 6554ds.

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07-03-2015 , 09:21 AM

#36873

Loctus

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 11,159

Any decently connected hand is rarely much of a dog to other hands aipf even when no hands are intertwined in PLOL. This time all three other hands intertwine quite a bit (aces vs ace king vs kings) so it's natural that the non-intertwining-hand does well equity wise. There's a lot stranger ****..

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07-03-2015 , 09:45 AM

#36874

OlyBrah

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 1,362

Every time we discuss some random AI in this thread I just get surprised each and every time. It's weird coming from NLHE and seeing hands getting it in with 40% equity in weird spots where you wouldn't expect it.

Like that hand the other day where villain got it in with a gutshot to a wrap and still had 8% equity.

Edit: Is there a reason why PLO100 is pretty much dead compared to PLO200 and PLO50 on Stars? I know a lot of the bots played PLO100, have they scared people off of these stakes?

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07-03-2015 , 09:55 AM

#36875

TheRealThing

newbie

Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 37

Quote:

Originally Posted by OlyBrah

Edit: Is there a reason why PLO100 is pretty much dead compared to PLO200 and PLO50 on Stars? I know a lot of the bots played PLO100, have they scared people off of these stakes?

plo100 rake is the destroyer of worlds.
Anyone serious is generally looking to move to 200 asap or continue crushing fish at 50 until they're rolled to spend as little time at 100 as possible.

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