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Should I have folded with the nuts? Should I have folded with the nuts?

11-29-2016 , 05:16 PM
So I was playing 1/2 PLO w/$300 buyin. In about an hour I was up over $1,100. Then I lost about $700 in one hand. That's PLO, but without being results oriented, did I make the right move when I called an all in?

My hand: Q,J,8,6 sooted but no diamonds

A bunch of limpers join me to see the flop, which is 10,9,7 with 2 diamonds, giving me the nuts.

Old horny guy who seems to be in every pot I'm involved in, bets pot. heh. Then next guy, let's call him *******, calls. I repot it which is about $150. Horny guy folds. ******* says "**** it, I'm all in."

He has a big stack in front of him. Should I have folded?

Well I didn't; I called.

Turn is a black 8 and the river is 8 of diamonds. He hit his nut flush on the river and scooped a huge pot of about $1,500.

SHOULD I HAVE FOLDED? SHOULD I NOT HAVE RE-POTTED to control pot size? Any thoughts on this are greatly appreciated.

Thank you.
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11-29-2016 , 05:22 PM
Seems fine, i dont expect to be getting freerolled after *** flats
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11-29-2016 , 06:28 PM
Well, if you think you can ever get away with a diamond or paired board on the turn you should probably just call and re-evaluate on the turn, obv get away if there's a lot of action.

How do you know his horny tho?
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11-29-2016 , 06:41 PM
God this OP makes me angry

Either it's a successful troll or it's a legitimate question which explains how PLO is profitable
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11-29-2016 , 08:07 PM
fold pre.
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11-29-2016 , 08:13 PM
Thinly veiled bad beat story featuring a rivered diamond flush.

GII here is super standard.
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11-30-2016 , 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by OmahaFanatical4
fold pre.
Yes, that's where I went wrong.
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11-30-2016 , 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Loctus
God this OP makes me angry

Either it's a successful troll or it's a legitimate question which explains how PLO is profitable
Not a troll, just new to PLO and trying to learn from my mistake.
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11-30-2016 , 11:56 AM
I mean, can you play it differently? YEs, absolutely. like NOT REPOTTING the flop which put you in this conondrum from the get go (fwiw probably not my preferred line but far from terrible). But can you repot the flop and then fold with the nuts and a redraw of your own after putting in half your stack? L M A O what the ****?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!??!?!?!??!??!



Yes there is a multitude of other ways to play this other than repotting flop and getting it in. Like, calling the pot bet from villain, since he likes to bet pot and you have the nuts. It's called ze trapping and greatly protects your range too. Or making a smallerish raise which won't risk folding out the worse straight. Or getting it in and winning and you wouldn't even remember this hand.
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11-30-2016 , 02:14 PM
Against randoms any turn 79TJQK or diamond and it won't be clear what you should do, and an 8 isn't good news either. Pretty sure I'm raising here 3 ways, esp. so if a random is going to stack off 250bb with just a flush draw.

Pre. is annoying, assuming you are in late position and have a Q high suit I can understand just limping along hoping to hit ... but it's going to be hard to make a lot anyway without good reads, and that's all the random's strategy so they are experienced with it and you are playing their game.

Last edited by illiterat; 11-30-2016 at 02:20 PM.
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11-30-2016 , 02:44 PM
What I gather from your jumbled OP is that you were very deep with the villain in this hand, a scenario in which I would be looking to see a safe turn card.
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11-30-2016 , 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by YouGoTGoT
What I gather from your jumbled OP is that you were very deep with the villain in this hand, a scenario in which I would be looking to see a safe turn card.
Yes, that's what I kept coming back to as I reviewed the hand in my head (over and over....a big losing hand always stays with me). The turn WAS a safe card and I think if I waited for that before I bet big, maybe he doesn't call off all his chips with just one card to come.
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11-30-2016 , 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Very Josie
Yes, that's what I kept coming back to as I reviewed the hand in my head (over and over....a big losing hand always stays with me). The turn WAS a safe card and I think if I waited for that before I bet big, maybe he doesn't call off all his chips with just one card to come.
Your thoughts are very results oriented and quite backwards in many respects. It does not matter what the turn was or what he would have done. I am not suggesting you call the flop so that you can get him to fold his worse hand that happened to hit the river in this particular instance. Quite the opposite. My point is that this deep I would prefer to call flop so that we can get stacks in on a safe turn when our equity is significantly higher.
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12-01-2016 , 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by YouGoTGoT
Your thoughts are very results oriented and quite backwards in many respects. It does not matter what the turn was or what he would have done. I am not suggesting you call the flop so that you can get him to fold his worse hand that happened to hit the river in this particular instance. Quite the opposite. My point is that this deep I would prefer to call flop so that we can get stacks in on a safe turn when our equity is significantly higher.
You're so right. Thank you. I'm hoping to take another jab at PLO this weekend.
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12-02-2016 , 03:55 PM
Pretty much agree with everything Loctus said and this includes the way in which he was an ******* doing so.
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12-02-2016 , 09:28 PM
lol
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12-03-2016 , 12:00 AM
i cant stop laughing.
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12-06-2016 , 02:13 PM
I agree with Loctus too though I am purposely ignoring the mean stuff. :P I played there again last Friday but no major hands to report. Remember that horny old guy I mentioned? The floor came over and asked him to step in the back room. Why? Because he touched a female dealer in a way that made her uncomfortable. He spilled his chips and got down on the floor near him to help pick them up and then I hear his hands were on her....head. I didn't see it first hand, but it definitely aligns with my afore mentioned "horny" description.
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12-07-2016 , 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Very Josie
I'm hoping to take another jab at PLO this weekend.
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12-12-2016 , 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by tofurocks
It went pretty bad.

1.) Started the session up but ended dropping about $400 (not that I'm results oriented or anything). But I do know why. I lost 2 hands with the second nut flush. I HAVE to stop playing mediocre hands.

2.) The PLO bad beat was hit about 15 minutes before I got there!
Both parties turned a straight flush!
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