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Semi-frequent very deep spot with overpair+fd Semi-frequent very deep spot with overpair+fd

09-14-2016 , 05:10 PM
I come across this pretty regularly in my games. Basically, we 3b a big suited pair (AAxx or KKxx) very deep in position, we flop the flushdraw+overpair, cbet flop, and.... we get check/potted into. What's a reasonable strategy here? We obviously has a monster but villain often has a very narrow range (meaning like 50%++ set). If we call he jams all turns I guess? Not sure. 150ish bb deep this is auto-jamming season for me. 200+ it gets iffy. I come across it 300bb deep once in a while (yes my games play stupid deep)

Hand examples. This is basically a daily occurence and often for pots large enough to make the day. Can we start checking back these flops, maybe moreso in hand 2 due to how connected the flop is and that it likely hits villains range better than ours? I'm confused since I just want to auto-cbet all these for value

Hand 1. Villain is a winning reg playing 32/18/5 2af

[converted_hand][hand_history]Boss, $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 3 Players
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Hero (BB): $1,087.24 (543.6 bb)
BTN: $622.31 (311.2 bb)
SB: $456.73 (228.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A 4 8 A
BTN raises to $7, SB calls $6, Hero raises to $28, BTN calls $21, SB calls $21

Flop: ($84) 6 2 J (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $44, BTN folds, SB raises to $164



Hand 2. Villain is a random playing 46/19/0 1.2af over 30 hands


[converted_hand][hand_history]Boss, $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 4 Players
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Hero (BTN): $522.37 (261.2 bb)
SB: $222.42 (111.2 bb)
BB: $1,150.57 (575.3 bb)
CO: $476.35 (238.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 9 2 K K
CO raises to $7, Hero raises to $24, 2 folds, CO calls $17

Flop: ($51) 6 3 8 (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $38.25, CO raises to $165.75
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09-14-2016 , 10:06 PM
First hand I'm betting and getting it in pretty happily, second hand I check back the flop.
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09-14-2016 , 10:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loctus
We obviously has a monster but villain often has a very narrow range (meaning like 50%++ set).

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Can we start checking back these flops, maybe moreso in hand 2 due to how connected the flop is and that it likely hits villains range better than ours
Checking back because you are afraid of being checkraised by a tight range that you can't continue against is probably the silliest thing that many people do. It doesn't make any sense. It's a lot better for you EV-wise to be checkraised by at x frequency and have to fold than to be checkraised at 2x frequency and be indifferent between continuing and folding, or even to be checkraised at 2.1x frequency and have an ever so marginally profitable call.

Also you have a range advantage and more good hands on 863ss than the CO here.
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