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Seeking long-term backer for online PLO 100 Seeking long-term backer for online PLO 100

03-01-2016 , 12:07 PM
Hi,

it looks like I can't start thread in a marketplace because I haven't been on 2+2 6 months. So I started it here, please don't delete this.

I am 30 years old poker player from Czech republic. I was playing NLHE already in my twenties while I was studying and became poker “pro” straight after school. I was playing half online / half live with average BI $100-200. This lasted for like 5 years, I was making about $1,1k / month in my best NLHE years, total profit for that time was roughly 1,1M CZK.

I guess the lack of motivation or simply the fact that I am a lazy ****er are the reasons why I was always bad at BR management. I’ve never been able to build a serious BR because when I won enough money for next 2-3 month I just stopped playing and started enjoying that money thinking a long streak of bad luck won’t happen to me cos I’m blessed or whatever… (I know, dumb.)

In summer 2011 I went for long trip to Scandinavia which was quite expensive and after I came back, two months of bad luck were enough for me to be busto. I was quite disgusted about poker and it’s worth noting that my winrate that year was a lot lower than previous years as other players’ skillz went better and better. So I’m thinking that’s it for me, I will never be able to make serious money in poker again. So I found a job in a insurance company and quit poker almost completely besides some very low stakes cash games with my friends in a pub.

In 2013 I made a small deposit on Cake poker and start playing small stakes PLO cash games in my spare time. After few months I had $750 there and I tried to withdraw some of that money. At that point I found out Cake poker is busto so I made another small to deposit to different site. In late 2014 I had about $3k, PT shows me my hourly rate is twice bigger compared to my job so guess what, I’m quitting my job (not very smart so early, is it).

Well everything was good until late 2015 when I bought new iMac, 36 very nice Wachau wines and had a $1,5k downswing at the same time. At that point I had to quit playing PLO 100 and move down to PLO 50-20. Since that time I was able to make barely what I need monthly for living (1k) and after this February (expected winrate +7,5BB/100, real result -$250 even with rakeback) I am in a situation when I shouldn’t be playing even PLO 50 and I smell busto soon. Which leads me here.

I am seeking backer for online PLO 100 6-max and HU with a bit of 200 and 50 (not always action at 100). I would like this deal to be long-term, I’m thinking like 3 years or until the point I’ll have 10k my own BR respectively. I’d like to report results to my backer weekly preferably via Facebook with weekly resets and monthly winnings payments via Skrill. It would be nice if backer will be also a PLO player but not necessary. I will play about 5-8k hands monthly. I know it seems to be a ridiculously small number but I play only 1 or 2 tables at the same time and I know I can’t play more than 4 hours per day because after that there is just too much of that for me, I lose my focus and start play badly. I don’t want to change things which were already proven working.

Now here is my stats for last 15 months. [IMG]http://************/image/yfopfo0p9/[/IMG] (In November 2014 my PC crushed and I didn’t recover my previous database). I erased my nickname and also you may noticed I didn’t mention the site where I play right now - because I don’t want to regs to know that I’m being staked. Of course all will be revealed in a private conversation.

As you can see my winrate is quite big and I realize that, therefor I won’t accept any sort of standard deal like 50/50 with rakeback. In my mind perfect deal seems like 70% to me, 30% to backer when winning (and no rakaback for backer) and 30% to me, 70% to backer’s BR when losing (when I’m rebuilding backer’s initial BR respectively) as a standard. This is (also) good for backer in the situations which may happen after like 1,5 year when I already have like 5k of my own BR but in a 2,5k downswing of my backers money. Now if it would be 0% to me and 100% to backers BR I am surely quitting at that point. I ran some numbers and I think this offer is fair to both sides however not sure if you backers see it the same way I do. Therefor from now on I will wait one week in which hopefully I’ll see some offers in my mailbox here on 2+2 and next Tuesday I will pick the best of them. Of course I will communicate in the meantime with all of the potential backers.

I noted that other stake seekers post some references to them. Well, that might be a bit problem for me as I am not part of any poker community now really. Back than in my NLH times I was posting on Joeik’s pokergamers.cz site which is now closed and Joeik (Josef Samanek) once lend me $1k which I gave back to him :) and that’s about the only reference I can give you. Maybe after you see my Facebook you will know I’m not a scammer.

One last thing: sorry if my English is not always perfect.

Last edited by BLQ; 03-01-2016 at 12:32 PM.
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03-01-2016 , 12:35 PM
don't how to post image here so please just write down postimg dot org instead the **** in the link. http://************/image/yfopfo0p9/
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03-01-2016 , 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by BLQ
I won’t accept any sort of standard deal like 50/50 with rakeback. In my mind perfect deal seems like 70% to me, 30% to backer when winning (and no rakaback for backer) and 30% to me, 70% to backer’s BR when losing (when I’m rebuilding backer’s initial BR respectively) as a standard.
gl finding a backer
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03-01-2016 , 03:06 PM
lol, i think i get better odds on a bank for my money...
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03-01-2016 , 03:15 PM
there actually is a thread for this :

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/13...st-1-a-356185/
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03-01-2016 , 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by TrollAccount
lol, i think i get better odds on a bank for my money...
I see your point but all I'm saying is I'll wait for some offers and pick the one which will be best for me. If the best would be 55/45, I'll probably take it. My point is why should I get same 50/50 conditions with 17BB/100 as a guy with 2BB/100.
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03-01-2016 , 04:28 PM
seems strange that you would just discover 2+2 this year
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03-01-2016 , 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by OmahaFanatical4
seems strange that you would just discover 2+2 this year
I haven't. I check new posts in Wincake cashout thread for last two years regularly and I was aware about 2+2 existence even before, there was just no need for me to post anything.

Anyway, should I somehow close this thread and post it in thread you're suggesting or should I leave it here ?
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03-01-2016 , 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by BLQ
I see your point but all I'm saying is I'll wait for some offers and pick the one which will be best for me. If the best would be 55/45, I'll probably take it. My point is why should I get same 50/50 conditions with 17BB/100 as a guy with 2BB/100.
cause this guy probably plays 50k+ hands a month, have a reputation, ppl which vouch for them and a sample size which back there knowledge!
in your example its about 400$ expected profit a month for the staker, while heīve the whole risk in case u bust or need to quit cause u make to less to survive and need to work a real job!
also your sample is not big at all, so who knows your real WR, while this guys raking in 2bb/100 have played 100īs of thousand hand and maintenance that WR, so are proven winners at the games.

I can just tell you under ur stipulations uīll have a hard time finding an backer.

Also on a sidenote: best offer won't always be equal with best percentages for you!
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03-01-2016 , 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by TrollAccount
cause this guy probably plays 50k+ hands a month, have a reputation, ppl which vouch for them and a sample size which back there knowledge!
in your example its about 400$ expected profit a month for the staker, while heīve the whole risk in case u bust or need to quit cause u make to less to survive and need to work a real job!
also your sample is not big at all, so who knows your real WR, while this guys raking in 2bb/100 have played 100īs of thousand hand and maintenance that WR, so are proven winners at the games.

I can just tell you under ur stipulations uīll have a hard time finding an backer.

Also on a sidenote: best offer won't always be equal with best percentages for you!
Yes, you're right, I won't argue with that. I just thought 17BB even after 100k hands only beats all of that you just described but I was probably too optimistic.

Could you explain what do you mean by your sidenote? What else I need to consider?
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03-02-2016 , 04:10 PM
No stats, no references, no posting history, wont give out name publicly and unrealistic deal needs up front.

Good luck
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03-02-2016 , 05:36 PM
donīt be such *******s he might be legit
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03-02-2016 , 05:50 PM
Before I even saw you want70% I was wondering if in allowed to post what a terrible person you would be to stake.

You would be terrible to stake.
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03-02-2016 , 08:36 PM
I don't really stake anymore but at least one relevant trusted reference from this community goes a long way and definitely don't start asking for a backer from a fresh account. Anybody who may want to make an investment in you doesn't want to take the high risk.
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03-03-2016 , 05:40 AM
I won't judge weather OP is legit or not, but you'll never find a stake on those terms. The cut is absurd given the risk and the grind provided.
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