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River decision against Kitai River decision against Kitai

04-07-2016 , 06:08 PM
First hand played at this table for me, 30 from the money in a 100€ winamax series event

Stacks:
UTG - Hero (98687)
CO - Pr4yF0rfi5h (125705)
BTN - stakeleux24 (112482)
SB - fratus16 (62478)
BB - Kitbul (134059)

Blinds: 1250/2500

Preflop: (3750, 5 players) Hero is UTG with T 2 A A
Hero raises to 8750, 3 folds, Kitbul calls 6250

Flop: 3 5 2 (18750, 2 players)
Kitbul checks, Hero checks

Turn: 3 (18750, 2 players)
Kitbul bets 7500, Hero calls 7500

River: 5 (33750, 2 players)
Kitbul bets 15000, Hero?
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04-07-2016 , 07:44 PM
If he is defending his BB super wide, fold, if he isn't defending wide, call. Odd spot though, your range is very aces heavy and bluffing into that is strange
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04-08-2016 , 02:45 AM
Little bonus question: raise turn?
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04-08-2016 , 06:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tithayer
Little bonus question: raise turn?
What would you be repping with your UTG opening range and flop check, followed by a turn raise?

As for the river, I have two conflicting thoughts, given that he likely knows you missed the flop:
1. He puts you on an overpair, so he's betting small on both streets try to encourage you to bluff-catch.
2. He figures that as you've missed the board a small bet is as likely to get you to fold as a bigger bet, so he gets a good price on his bluff. When you call the turn, you look like you have a draw, most likely a flush draw. All the draws miss on the river, so the river bet sizing is probably chosen to get you to fold all the missed draws; again, a smaller bet is as good as a larger bet if you have no showdown value.

I've not played tourneys so I don't know how the general dynamic would lean towards one or the other. Would a competent player take the bluff line first hand into an unknown, though? I wouldn't expect that to happen frequently in a cash game, but it might be different in a tourney. If he doesn't know anything about you, you could be opening 30% UTG.
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04-08-2016 , 08:30 AM
Not an easy spot he played well nice sizeing otr. I mean obv he could bluff w missed fds etc. But a lot of hands can beat us so i would sigh fold otr.
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04-08-2016 , 12:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave C
What would you be repping with your UTG opening range and flop check, followed by a turn raise?
Pretty sure raising turn is intended as a value/protection raise. We're ahead a good amount here since villain doesn't have many 3x or straights in his range and when he sizes it so small it looks like he's making a blocking type bet to set his own river price (since if he checks, we'll likely bet turn fairly large knowing we're ahead a ton)

Problem comes when he shoves on you. Obv you need to have a plan if you are raising turn since a good villain might read your hand for what it is and will have some semi-bluffs in his range when he shoves turn.
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04-08-2016 , 07:04 PM
Hero calls 15000

Total Pot : 63750
Hero shows T 2 A A (Two pairs : Aces and 5)
Kitbul shows 7 7 5 9 (Trips of 5)

now would be very interesting to know his plan if he does not hit a 5 or a 7, and if he hits the flush
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04-09-2016 , 12:26 PM
his turnbet seems very bad with that hand
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04-09-2016 , 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by lissistinkt
his turnbet seems very bad with that hand
why? should it matter what his cards are in this spot when he bets given his range advantage?
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