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Really lost with top set multiway Really lost with top set multiway

05-11-2015 , 03:57 PM
    Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #36315051

    BTN: $6.02 (120.4 bb)
    SB: $16.68 (333.6 bb)
    Hero (BB): $17.89 (357.8 bb)
    UTG: $10.24 (204.8 bb)
    MP: $8.93 (178.6 bb)
    CO: $20.25 (405 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with A A 3 2
    UTG raises to $0.17, MP raises to $0.58, CO calls $0.58, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.53, UTG calls $0.41

    Flop: ($2.34) 7 4 A (4 players)
    Hero checks, UTG checks, MP checks, CO checks

    Turn: ($2.34) 8 (4 players)
    Hero checks, UTG checks, MP bets $2.25, CO folds, Hero calls $2.25, UTG folds

    River: ($6.84) K (2 players)
    Hero bets $6.57, MP folds

    Spoiler:
    Results: $6.84 pot ($0.27 rake)
    Final Board: 7 4 A 8 K
    Hero mucked A A 3 2 and won $6.57 ($3.74 net)
    MP mucked and lost (-$2.83 net)



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    All villains are regs. And the only street I think I played right for sure was pre. I don't like giving away my hand this deep against 3 opponents. If the aces were double suited or if the 23 were broadways I would 4bet.

    I guess turn b/c or c/r can't be too bad since we have 43% against the nuts and may get it in vs worse.

    I end up shoving river since he shouldn't have spades as much as me and that turn pot does look like it might be a straight. Overall though, this looks pretty bad to me in retrospect.
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    05-11-2015 , 06:17 PM
    What a lovely turn card, do anything that involves putting more money into the pot on the turn imo

    Jamming river is a little thin
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    05-11-2015 , 07:14 PM
    funny hand

    i respect the call pre as i think it's pretty close but if it was AA56 i think flatting is 100% mistake

    I am certainly betting flop there, there are more combos need to protect our pot equity vs only maybe some AKKss, A8. Can think of lots reasons why betting is better.

    River is standard although gg to him if he look you up with straight. Maybe there is some scope to check call or check fold but I think whatever you do its trivially a good idea.
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    05-11-2015 , 07:18 PM
    People get married to nutted hands on the turn in big pots at PLO5/PLO10. It's gotten to the point where I've simply decided to stop try to rep super credible hands in big pots because "he can never call me with a set here because I ca... Oh he called me with a set"

    I don't think villain even had a straight here, probably just airballing whatever randomness he decided to 3b pre. It doesn't make sense, I know, but welcome to the micros.
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    05-12-2015 , 04:37 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mt.FishNoob
    funny hand

    i respect the call pre as i think it's pretty close but if it was AA56 i think flatting is 100% mistake

    I am certainly betting flop there, there are more combos need to protect our pot equity vs only maybe some AKKss, A8. Can think of lots reasons why betting is better.

    River is standard although gg to him if he look you up with straight. Maybe there is some scope to check call or check fold but I think whatever you do its trivially a good idea.
    Interesting, do you prefer AA56 to AA45? Flop I was looking to c/r hoped that 3bettor might either have hit or tried to represent the ace. Maybe thats also bad this deep though. The nfd can still call profitably in certain players hands right?
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    05-12-2015 , 10:24 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by thelato
    Interesting, do you prefer AA56 to AA45? Flop I was looking to c/r hoped that 3bettor might either have hit or tried to represent the ace. Maybe thats also bad this deep though. The nfd can still call profitably in certain players hands right?
    I was having conversation with real person about this a few weeks ago and I did have some incorrect opinions discovered in my preferences regarding different A***. I certainly prefer AA56 but it may be wrong - it's just there is not much implied value on 23*.

    I know you was looking to CR but there are more ss!Ks than Kss etc and there is still going to be raising ranges over your flop bet. Betting is more often the best move even though when cring is the best move it gets the money in faster. Also they can easily check back Kss when losing to A***.
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    05-12-2015 , 12:06 PM
    Imo, multiway flops are rarely cb as thinly compared to when HU. More often than not, looking to CR in these spots ends up amiss cuz it gets checked through. So I'd agree that donk betting here is totally fine.
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