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Re: PLO200 - deep 3bet with ini - ovp + GS on pairing turn, SPR1 Re: PLO200 - deep 3bet with ini - ovp + GS on pairing turn, SPR1

05-22-2015 , 08:22 PM
Hello

iPoker - €2 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: €677.38 (VPIP: 32.84, PFR: 20.81, 3Bet Preflop: 6.51, Hands: 10,332)
Hero (SB): €326.40
BB: €491.29 (VPIP: 49.26, PFR: 37.77, 3Bet Preflop: 18.60, Hands: 7,273)
CO: €346.38 (VPIP: 47.24, PFR: 32.56, 3Bet Preflop: 15.57, Hands: 20,111)

Hero posts SB €1.00, BB posts BB €2.00

Pre Flop: (pot: €3.00) Hero has A A 7 9

CO raises to €7.00, BTN calls €7.00, Hero raises to €30.00, fold, CO calls €23.00, BTN calls €23.00

Flop: (€92.00, 3 players) 8 5 Q
Hero bets €65.00, fold, BTN calls €65.00

Turn: (€222.00, 2 players) 8
Hero bets €222.00, fold

Table full reg.
CO hyperaggro/gambly good reg
BU TAG decent/good reg.

Preflop

std

Flop

good flop.
dry, with ovp + nut GS + BDNFD

cbet std.

Even if we're playing a little deep, my plan is to cbet and shove if i'm getting raised.
Vs CO it would be a snap since he's very gambly postflop and can shove tons here
Vs BU it would be less happy, cause he's a little more tight. but not a supranit too, so I think as flopped I have to shove if he'll raise.

If both are raising-shoving... I don't know.
maybe I should *** fold. but with 231€ to put for a ~980€; needing some 24% equity. and they can broke quite "light" here (p+straight draw, wraps etc...), so as flopped seems me hard to fold.

thoughts about play flop and scenarios ?

Turn

I hate my play here.

it's a good turn and i think I spewed it

Unbalanced as possible, I'm just showing my hand here.
I've never bluffs obv when i do this (if i'd AKJT or things like that, i wouldn't play that way). If i was monster (8xxx, QQxx), i'd not play like that too.
've got only AAxx and some AQxx/KKxx maybe. only type of hand I could balance with would be some 9TJx, that maybe i'd play like this

and more over, isolating vs full/trips, and avoid him to bluff/make bad calls, errors etc...

ye it's quite a good turn here
Rainbow board, not ultra connected, my DP max is quite safe here. (ye, this still have some straighty rivers btw. 6 to J (except pairing) put straights on the board)

maybe bet some tricky sizing like ~50-60€.
Sizing I could balance with bluffs and nuts. letting him possibility to try to catch one street with Qxxx, call some Qxxx+GS, 5xxx+GS (even if I think he'd have shove it flop often)...
getting value from something he could have

or this board being quite dry and being myself strong here and not needing a ton of protection (way ahead / way behind situation I think), maybe check to induce some bluff (turn or at least river, when i check 2x).
but I've a feeling check isn't good here

thoughts about the line to take ? sizings ?

...

other thing, BU (decent tag reg) tanked fold here.

considering that he was not fake tanking, what kind of hand could he really hesitate to call here ?
Re: PLO200 - deep 3bet with ini - ovp + GS on pairing turn, SPR1 Quote
05-25-2015 , 10:37 AM
Interesting, you can bet for protection which should allow them to play perfect, or check which alllows them to bluff or sometimes they don't bluff and just value you and get free cards on their relatively high equity ranges.

I don't know. This is probably a reasonable hand to have in your protection range, KK also. Checking is better if they bluff a lot, thats probably the biggest factor, how often you expect them to bluff.

What % of the time does one of them have an 8+?
Re: PLO200 - deep 3bet with ini - ovp + GS on pairing turn, SPR1 Quote
05-25-2015 , 12:49 PM
I'm definitely betting turn. With an SPR of 1 it's kind of tough to be very creative with regards to sizing. We can go for a half-pot barrel here and have a small bet/folding range, but I think that balancing that range with trips+ will work out better than AA/KK. Shoving overpairs here is hugely profitable, if we bet 50% with those we're probably just allowing him a profitable peel with wraps.

Your squeeze and your 3-way cbet really doesn't leave much air in your range.

Last edited by Ph33roX; 05-25-2015 at 01:03 PM.
Re: PLO200 - deep 3bet with ini - ovp + GS on pairing turn, SPR1 Quote
05-25-2015 , 02:56 PM
Dont want to be so detailed but what about this:

SPR 3 and betting into two people so you never ever have here a b/f range.
so I would pot/call flop with these types.
I would c/f my airs and c/r my stronger holdings and maybe c/c with some other stuffs and stronger holdings??
Is it a good plan?

Last edited by naggeri; 05-25-2015 at 03:02 PM.
Re: PLO200 - deep 3bet with ini - ovp + GS on pairing turn, SPR1 Quote

      
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