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Old 09-08-2009, 12:48 PM   #176
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

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lol. link to your poastage?

and new hand:

$0.25/$0.5 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
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Stacks:
UTG BedHeadRed ($37.75)
UTG+1 tice03 ($50.00)
CO patzuk ($40.80)
BTN Masterof7777 ($247.00)
SB Hero ($60.15)
BB azakas10 ($25.95)

Pre-flop: ($0.75, 6 players) Hero is SB 5 A 8 5
BedHeadRed calls $0.50, tice03 raises to $2.25,1 fold[/color], Masterof7777 calls $2.25, Hero calls $2, azakas10 calls $1.75, BedHeadRed calls $1.75

Flop: 9 2 5 ($11.25, 5 players)
Hero bets $10.70, azakas10 goes all-in $23.70, BedHeadRed goes all-in $35.50, tice03 goes all-in $47.75, 1 fold[/color], Hero?[/color]
This is *probably* top set often enough to make this a fold versus some players, but it is sometimes 22 as well, or just three monster wraps/FDs holding each others outs. You are gonna tilt like hell if the shorty is the one with 99.
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Old 09-08-2009, 12:54 PM   #177
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

Postflop is obv standard. What about both preflop decisions?

BB: $28.18
UTG: $5.81
MP: $42.72
Hero (CO): $33.71
BTN: $28.16
SB: $45.47

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with A 9 Q J
1 fold, MP raises to $0.85, Hero raises to $2.90, 3 folds, MP raises to $9.05, Hero calls $6.15

Flop: ($18.45) J T 4 (2 players)
MP bets $18.45, Hero raises to $24.66 all in, MP calls $6.21

Turn: ($67.77) J (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($67.77) 6 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $67.77
MP shows A A 9 3 (two pair, Aces and Jacks)
Hero shows A 9 Q J (three of a kind, Jacks)
Hero wins $64.77
(Rake: $3.00)
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Old 09-08-2009, 01:05 PM   #178
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

I really hate your first 3-bet. Don't think flatting the 4-bet is quite as bad. I think I would need a read on villain to decide if flatting the 4-bet is going to be +EV or not.
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Old 09-08-2009, 01:05 PM   #179
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pretty easy fold huh?

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Hero (BTN/SB): $102.20
BB: $172.40

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN/SB with 3 4 6 9
Hero raises to $3, BB raises to $9, Hero calls $6

Flop: ($18.00) 6 5 7 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($18.00) J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $14, BB raises to $39, Hero ??
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Old 09-08-2009, 01:06 PM   #180
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is this ok this deep?

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Hero (BB): $289.15
BTN/SB: $81.20

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with A 5 A 8
BTN/SB raises to $3, Hero raises to $9, BTN/SB calls $6

Flop: ($18.00) 3 T J (2 players)
Hero bets $14, BTN/SB raises to $59.50, Hero raises to $196, BTN/SB calls $12.70 all in
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Old 09-08-2009, 01:08 PM   #181
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I really hate your first 3-bet. Don't think flatting the 4-bet is quite as bad. I think I would need a read on villain to decide if flatting the 4-bet is going to be +EV or not.
It's AAxx 1000% of the time and he's going with it on the flop almost always.
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Old 09-08-2009, 01:09 PM   #182
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bet/call flop? i played this hand pretty bad i think.

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BTN/SB: $145.50
Hero (BB): $107.20

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with 9 6 T 7
BTN/SB raises to $3, Hero raises to $9, BTN/SB calls $6

Flop: ($18.00) 8 Q 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets $13, Hero calls $13

Turn: ($44.00) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets $43.50, Hero folds
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Old 09-08-2009, 01:09 PM   #183
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

I'm shipping turn in the first hand, folding to flop raise in 2nd.
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Old 09-08-2009, 01:12 PM   #184
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

bet/shove flop this deep is a spew?

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BTN/SB: $157.70
Hero (BB): $129.40

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with J Q 5 6
BTN/SB raises to $3, Hero raises to $9, BTN/SB calls $6

Flop: ($18.00) A K 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $14, BTN/SB raises to $30, Hero???
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Old 09-08-2009, 01:14 PM   #185
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I'm shipping turn in the first hand, folding to flop raise in 2nd.
firts hand you mean where i had low and of the straight?
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Old 09-08-2009, 01:15 PM   #186
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pretty easy fold huh?

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Hero (BTN/SB): $102.20
BB: $172.40

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN/SB with 3 4 6 9
Hero raises to $3, BB raises to $9, Hero calls $6

Flop: ($18.00) 6 5 7 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($18.00) J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $14, BB raises to $39, Hero ??
If by fold you mean shove, then yeah, pretty easy.

Given he 3b pre, given you have a 9, given he checked twice, given you have a 4 and it's hard to have 48xx...I think you are ahead way more than behind here. Get it in and dodge a heart
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Old 09-08-2009, 01:16 PM   #187
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bet/call flop this deep is a spew?

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BTN/SB: $157.70
Hero (BB): $129.40

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with J Q 5 6
BTN/SB raises to $3, Hero raises to $9, BTN/SB calls $6

Flop: ($18.00) A K 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $14, BTN/SB raises to $30, Hero???
Why would you 3-bet this hand preflop if you're not getting it in on a flop like this? You only stack off with the nuts in 3-bet pots?
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Old 09-08-2009, 01:17 PM   #188
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If by fold you mean shove, then yeah, pretty easy.

Given he 3b pre, given you have a 9, given he checked twice, given you have a 4 and it's hard to have 48xx...I think you are ahead way more than behind here. Get it in and dodge a heart
thx i shoved ofcourse. just cheking is there any tilt by me.
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Old 09-08-2009, 01:18 PM   #189
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Why would you 3-bet this hand preflop if you're not getting it in on a flop like this? You only stack off with the nuts in 3-bet pots?
lol nah =) by minraising his giving pretty good odds to chase my draw, i think i have close to zero fold equity after his minraise.
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Old 09-08-2009, 01:20 PM   #190
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bet/call flop? i played this hand pretty bad i think.

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BTN/SB: $145.50
Hero (BB): $107.20

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with 9 6 T 7
BTN/SB raises to $3, Hero raises to $9, BTN/SB calls $6

Flop: ($18.00) 8 Q 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets $13, Hero calls $13

Turn: ($44.00) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets $43.50, Hero folds
how about this hand? any thoughts?
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lol nah =) by minraising his giving pretty good odds to chase my draw, i think i have close to zero fold equity after his minraise.
You have 40% equity vs. a set tho.
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Old 09-08-2009, 01:22 PM   #192
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how about this hand? any thoughts?
Honestly as sick as it sounds I don't hate c/folding that flop. We have what looks like a good draw but in reality we are getting sick reverse implied odds much of the time. When he has JT or a pair+clubs we are just crushed equity wise. There is really not many hands he can have besides a set that we are doing alright against when we get it in there.
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Old 09-08-2009, 02:23 PM   #193
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k thx margin.
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Old 09-08-2009, 04:08 PM   #194
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

Standard?

Hand #1
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UTG 68/30/2

BB: $53.50
UTG: $233.30
CO: $109.75
Hero (BTN): $62.15
SB: $78.25

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with 6 9 6 8
UTG raises to $1.75, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.75, 2 folds

Flop: ($4.25) 4 Q 5 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $4.25, UTG raises to $17, Hero raises to $55.25, UTG raises to $170, Hero calls $5.15 all in

Hand #2
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BTN 68/34/1.6

CO: $15.00
BTN: $51.40
Hero (SB): $53.65
BB: $53.80
UTG: $52.05
MP: $71.20

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with K 2 J K
3 folds, BTN raises to $1.75, Hero raises to $5.75, 1 fold, BTN calls $4

Flop: ($12.00) 3 3 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $6, BTN raises to $14, Hero raises to $47.90 all in, BTN calls $31.65 all in


Hand #3
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UTG unknown

SB: $50.00
BB: $242.55
UTG: $50.00
Hero (CO): $50.00
BTN: $78.75

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is CO with 9 6 9 8
UTG raises to $1.75, Hero calls $1.75, 3 folds

Flop: ($4.25) J 9 7 (2 players)
UTG bets $4.25, Hero raises to $17, UTG raises to $48.25 all in, Hero calls $31.25 all in

Hand #4
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BTN 68/30/1.5

CO: $15.65
BTN: $28.10
Hero (SB): $49.50
BB: $56.30
UTG: $52.05
MP: $70.00

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with A A 4 3
3 folds, BTN raises to $1.75, Hero raises to $5.75, 1 fold, BTN calls $4

Flop: ($12.00) 5 8 Q (2 players)
Hero bets $12, BTN raises to $22.35 all in, Hero calls $10.35
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Old 09-08-2009, 04:19 PM   #195
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Standard?

Hand #1
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UTG 68/30/2

BB: $53.50
UTG: $233.30
CO: $109.75
Hero (BTN): $62.15
SB: $78.25

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with 6 9 6 8
UTG raises to $1.75, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.75, 2 folds

Flop: ($4.25) 4 Q 5 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $4.25, UTG raises to $17, Hero raises to $55.25, UTG raises to $170, Hero calls $5.15 all in

Hand #2
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BTN 68/34/1.6

CO: $15.00
BTN: $51.40
Hero (SB): $53.65
BB: $53.80
UTG: $52.05
MP: $71.20

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with K 2 J K
3 folds, BTN raises to $1.75, Hero raises to $5.75, 1 fold, BTN calls $4

Flop: ($12.00) 3 3 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $6, BTN raises to $14, Hero raises to $47.90 all in, BTN calls $31.65 all in


Hand #3
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UTG unknown

SB: $50.00
BB: $242.55
UTG: $50.00
Hero (CO): $50.00
BTN: $78.75

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is CO with 9 6 9 8
UTG raises to $1.75, Hero calls $1.75, 3 folds

Flop: ($4.25) J 9 7 (2 players)
UTG bets $4.25, Hero raises to $17, UTG raises to $48.25 all in, Hero calls $31.25 all in

Hand #4
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BTN 68/30/1.5

CO: $15.65
BTN: $28.10
Hero (SB): $49.50
BB: $56.30
UTG: $52.05
MP: $70.00

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with A A 4 3
3 folds, BTN raises to $1.75, Hero raises to $5.75, 1 fold, BTN calls $4

Flop: ($12.00) 5 8 Q (2 players)
Hero bets $12, BTN raises to $22.35 all in, Hero calls $10.35
hand 1 fold once he raises the flop
hand 2 could go either way, probably ok
hand 3 super standard
hand 4 is fine as well, ur not gonna be in great shape once he raises you but you gotta bet that flop, and u gotta bet/call
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hand 1 fold once he raises the flop
hand 2 could go either way, probably ok
hand 3 super standard
hand 4 is fine as well, ur not gonna be in great shape once he raises you but you gotta bet that flop, and u gotta bet/call
agree with all of this.
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Thanks guys
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Old 09-08-2009, 06:12 PM   #198
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^^^ hand 1 is pretty spewy to me
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Old 09-08-2009, 08:54 PM   #199
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Any other way to go about this?

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MP: $106.00
CO: $25.05
Hero (BTN): $805.90
SB: $256.45
BB: $480.95
UTG: $308.55

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BTN with A A K 8
UTG raises to $6, MP raises to $20, 1 fold, Hero raises to $69, SB calls $68, 1 fold, UTG calls $63, MP calls $49

Flop: ($278.00) 8 K 9 (4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, MP bets $37 all in, Hero raises to $386, SB calls $187.45 all in, UTG calls $239.55 all in

Turn: ($981.55) J (4 players - 3 are all in)

River: ($981.55) 5 (4 players - 3 are all in)
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Any other way to go about this?

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MP: $106.00
CO: $25.05
Hero (BTN): $805.90
SB: $256.45
BB: $480.95
UTG: $308.55

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BTN with A A K 8
UTG raises to $6, MP raises to $20, 1 fold, Hero raises to $69, SB calls $68, 1 fold, UTG calls $63, MP calls $49

Flop: ($278.00) 8 K 9 (4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, MP bets $37 all in, Hero raises to $386, SB calls $187.45 all in, UTG calls $239.55 all in

Turn: ($981.55) J (4 players - 3 are all in)

River: ($981.55) 5 (4 players - 3 are all in)
I don't think so. With all of the money already in the pot and two players to act after you, all of your options suck, and with top two pair 4 ways your equity is probably not bad but not good either. All-in.
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