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07-04-2010 , 10:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by clout
villain is 54/24, 13% 3b, 75% fold to cbet


Full Tilt Poker $25.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
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CO: $86.79
BTN: $49.56
SB: $50.00
BB: $50.00
Hero (UTG): $97.30

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with A K Q T
Hero raises to $1.10, CO calls $1.10, BTN calls $1.10, 2 folds

Flop: ($3.65) 5 7 Q (3 players)
Hero bets $3.90, CO folds, BTN calls $3.90

Turn: ($11.45) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $11.70, Hero raises to $46.80

Final Pot: $34.85
I like it ye, i don't full pot the flop tho
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07-04-2010 , 10:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dadude77
I have a tough time playing AA at times, no reads on this guy im brand new to the table..


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Full Tilt Poker $0.02/$0.05 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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SB: $2.36
BB: $5.00
UTG: $9.30
MP: $6.10
CO: $9.09
Hero (BTN): $5.00

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BTN with 2 A A 8
2 folds, CO calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.22, SB calls $0.20, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.54) 4 K 3 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.40, SB calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.34) Q (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.80, SB calls $0.80

River: ($2.94) 7 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.47, SB calls $0.94 all in
Bet more on turn, prob just pot it. Check back river
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07-05-2010 , 03:31 PM
What's our plan for this flop 130bb deep, b/c b/f c/c? Villain is aggro

Full Tilt Poker $25.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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BB: $13.51
UTG: $14.80
MP: $21.01
CO: $30.45
BTN: $33.01
Hero (SB): $56.93

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with A Q J A
2 folds, CO calls $0.25, BTN raises to $1.10, Hero raises to $3.80, 2 folds, BTN calls $2.70

Flop: ($8.10) J K 5 (2 players)
Hero ???
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07-05-2010 , 07:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cr@ckers717
What's our plan for this flop 130bb deep, b/c b/f c/c? Villain is aggro

Full Tilt Poker $25.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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BB: $13.51
UTG: $14.80
MP: $21.01
CO: $30.45
BTN: $33.01
Hero (SB): $56.93

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with A Q J A
2 folds, CO calls $0.25, BTN raises to $1.10, Hero raises to $3.80, 2 folds, BTN calls $2.70

Flop: ($8.10) J K 5 (2 players)
Hero ???
b/c flop play turn
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07-05-2010 , 07:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by shoobri
b/c flop play turn
we're really not that deep effectively, just bet/ship
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07-06-2010 , 01:57 AM
Rush 100, Villains stats I found out later were 88/14/1.5 over small sample.
Standard 3 bet on turn? Is anyone calling river?


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MP: $55.65
Hero (CO): $100.90
BTN: $138.25
SB: $40.00
BB: $344.25
UTG: $90.75

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is CO with K 6 J A
2 folds, Hero raises to $3, BTN calls $3, 2 folds

Flop: ($7.50) K 6 T (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($7.50) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $5.00, BTN raises to $10, Hero raises to $37.50, BTN calls $27.50

River: ($82.50) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $40.00, Hero folds
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07-06-2010 , 02:49 AM
Only 15 hands on villain seems pretty loose 50+vpiper

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PL Omaha $0.25(BB) Replayer
SB ($21.90)
BB ($50.22)
UTG ($22.46)
Hero ($25)
CO ($34.98)
BTN ($22.45)

Dealt to Hero A Q A J

fold, Hero raises to $0.75, CO calls $0.75, fold, fold, fold

FLOP ($1.85) 6 9 8

Can I even cbet this?
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07-06-2010 , 02:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by madlion
Only 15 hands on villain seems pretty loose 50+vpiper

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SB ($21.90)
BB ($50.22)
UTG ($22.46)
Hero ($25)
CO ($34.98)
BTN ($22.45)

Dealt to Hero A Q A J

fold, Hero raises to $0.75, CO calls $0.75, fold, fold, fold

FLOP ($1.85) 6 9 8

Can I even cbet this?
obv too exploitable if u never cbet a board like this with air - weak holdings. u can not assume because he called your pfr that this particular board hits his calling range that hard that u have to c/f it
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07-06-2010 , 03:05 AM
of course, but vs an unknown you cbet and give up on turn except on a T?
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07-06-2010 , 08:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by shoobri
Rush 100, Villains stats I found out later were 88/14/1.5 over small sample.
Standard 3 bet on turn? Is anyone calling river?


Full Tilt Poker $100.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP: $55.65
Hero (CO): $100.90
BTN: $138.25
SB: $40.00
BB: $344.25
UTG: $90.75

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is CO with K 6 J A
2 folds, Hero raises to $3, BTN calls $3, 2 folds

Flop: ($7.50) K 6 T (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($7.50) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $5.00, BTN raises to $10, Hero raises to $37.50, BTN calls $27.50

River: ($82.50) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $40.00, Hero folds

why do you check flop?
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07-09-2010 , 11:21 PM
Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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MP: $4.31
CO: $10.04
BTN: $2.06
SB: $9.73
BB: $12.84
Hero (UTG): $35.81

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG with 3 A A 4
Hero raises to $0.20, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.20, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.55) 5 2 A (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($0.55) J (2 players)
Hero bets $0.10, BTN calls $0.10

River: ($0.75) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.37, BTN folds

Final Pot: $0.75
Hero wins $0.70
(Rake: $0.05)

These spots annoy me against short unknowns in rush. best line flop/turn/river to extract value here? I know I shoulda raised more pre I hada lot of tables and Im int he habit of min raising UTG without much thought :s
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07-10-2010 , 01:09 AM
I'd have potted it preflop, on the flop, on the turn, and on the river
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07-10-2010 , 01:17 AM
why bet flop? theres nothing really he will call with
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07-10-2010 , 01:27 AM
PLO Hi/Lo $22 buyin



Poker Stars $20+$2 Pot Limit Omaha Hi/Lo Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 8 players
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BTN: t2770 M = 61.56
SB: t2945 M = 65.44
BB: t1060 M = 23.56
UTG: t2875 M = 63.89
Hero (UTG+1): t2990 M = 66.44
MP1: t2790 M = 62
MP2: t3330 M = 74
CO: t5020 M = 111.56

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is UTG+1 with 3 A 5 A
1 fold, Hero raises to t105, 1 fold, MP2 calls t105, CO calls t105, 2 folds, BB calls t75

Flop: (t435) 4 K 5 (4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t270, MP2 raises to t1245, CO folds, BB folds, Hero raises to t2885 all in, MP2 calls t1640

Turn: (t6205) 2 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t6205) 2 (2 players - 1 is all in)



Standard to get it all in on that flop for me? Or should I have called his raise and reevaluated turn? Still very very early in the tournament.
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07-10-2010 , 01:59 AM
nevermind. I see the hi/lo forum.
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07-10-2010 , 02:02 AM
dont be silly gotta shove there
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07-10-2010 , 05:53 AM
Can i just shove in the rest here and assume i get called by worse more than 50% of the time? WhatŽs the alternative, c/c or c/f? Villian is a winning player at hu plo, but doesnt seem good or creative, at least not in this match.

BTN/SB: $122.90
Hero (BB): $100.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with K K 8 A
BTN/SB raises to $3, Hero raises to $9, BTN/SB calls $6

Flop: ($18.00) 6 A 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $12.00, BTN/SB calls $12

Turn: ($42.00) J (2 players)
Hero bets $41.50, BTN/SB calls $41.50

River: ($125.00) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB checks

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $125.00
BTN/SB mucks Kh Jd 9h Qd
Hero shows Kc Ks 8s Ad
Hero wins $124.50
(Rake: $0.50)
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07-10-2010 , 06:12 AM
3-bet is a bit meh

flop is standard

turn is either bet/call but you should bet smaller. Or c/r dependent upon villain..

river as played I prob c/f, but sometimes I c/c, you have to have sup crazy image to value shove AK here..
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07-10-2010 , 06:17 AM
don't bet the river rest is standard
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07-10-2010 , 07:12 AM
Thanks guys. Just felt weird to check with just $37.50 behind, cause i also thought i should probably fold to a shove. Idk about turn betsizing, iŽd hate the river decision much more if i bet $30 on the turn, and also have the best hand a lot or at least still some equity. And of course i want max fold equity, it seemed very possible he can make a bad fold here.
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07-10-2010 , 10:35 AM
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PL Omaha $0.02(BB) Replayer
SB ($7.55)
BB ($1.23)
UTG ($2.60)
UTG+1 ($0.56)
CO ($0.69)
Hero ($3.67)

Dealt to Hero 7 8 6 Q

fold, UTG+1 calls $0.02, CO calls $0.02, Hero calls $0.02, fold, BB checks

FLOP ($0.09) A 9 5

BB checks, UTG+1 checks, CO checks, Hero bets $0.09, BB calls $0.09, UTG+1 folds, CO folds

TURN ($0.27) A 9 5 T

BB checks, Hero bets $0.20, BB raises to $0.86, Hero raises to $1.76, BB calls $0.26 (AI)

standard vs short fish giving the odds we get?
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07-10-2010 , 02:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ReidLockhart
PLO Hi/Lo $22 buyin



Poker Stars $20+$2 Pot Limit Omaha Hi/Lo Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN: t2770 M = 61.56
SB: t2945 M = 65.44
BB: t1060 M = 23.56
UTG: t2875 M = 63.89
Hero (UTG+1): t2990 M = 66.44
MP1: t2790 M = 62
MP2: t3330 M = 74
CO: t5020 M = 111.56

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is UTG+1 with 3 A 5 A
1 fold, Hero raises to t105, 1 fold, MP2 calls t105, CO calls t105, 2 folds, BB calls t75

Flop: (t435) 4 K 5 (4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t270, MP2 raises to t1245, CO folds, BB folds, Hero raises to t2885 all in, MP2 calls t1640

Turn: (t6205) 2 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t6205) 2 (2 players - 1 is all in)



Standard to get it all in on that flop for me? Or should I have called his raise and reevaluated turn? Still very very early in the tournament.
seems super standard imo, it's not like we can really fold turn after calling his flop raise...
Only turn we're c/folding I guess is a 3, and even then we may be making a mistake

Last edited by Olangotang; 07-10-2010 at 02:19 PM.
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07-10-2010 , 07:58 PM
Thanks for the advice. I was kinda just doing on-the-fly-learning while I was playing that tourney. I've only played some micro stakes cash limit hi-lo before and even then, not much. Just seeing if I'm thinking about it all correctly or if I'm missing something somewhat "ldo" obvious. Thanks again.
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07-11-2010 , 11:45 AM
Sappie: Betting turn is fine, but iŽd just pot it. Of course you call it of when he shoves, but theres really no reason to bet less than pot here. As played i suppose you could call and fold river if you dont hit, but getting it in right there is fine too for 13bb more.
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07-12-2010 , 12:51 PM
A couple of spots where Villain has aces:

Same Villain both hands 25/23/3 over small sample.

Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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UTG: $108.40
MP: $100.50
Hero (CO): $100.50
BTN: $118.20
SB: $176.75
BB: $118.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is CO with K Q T J
1 fold, MP raises to $3.50, Hero calls $3.50, 1 fold, SB calls $3, BB raises to $17.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $14, SB calls $14

Flop: ($56.00) T 5 2 (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $56, Hero ???



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SB: $262.00
BB: $130.25
UTG: $184.05
MP: $40.00
CO: $102.40
Hero (BTN): $100.50

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN with Q 7 K J
3 folds, Hero raises to $3.50, SB raises to $11.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $8

Flop: ($24.00) J 6 4 (2 players)
SB bets $24, Hero ????
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