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03-08-2021 , 01:49 PM
This is just a cooler. You have the nut flush draw.
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03-08-2021 , 04:22 PM
Sometimes fistpump jams don't work out.
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03-29-2021 , 09:17 AM
PokerStars - $0.05 PL Hi FAST (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 177.2 BB
SB: 233.4 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 120.6 BB
MP: 101 BB
CO: 226.2 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A J K K

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2 BB, SB calls 1.6 BB, BB calls 1 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 3 players) 7 6 Q
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 5.8 BB, fold, BB calls 5.8 BB

Turn: (17.6 BB, 2 players) 5
BB bets 17 BB, fold

BB wins 17 BB


Is this a reasonable turn fold against unknown oppo? I have seen this sizing of almost pot a lot and it usually turns out to be the nuts. I also I am either catching a bluff or I am drawing dead. Semi bluff with two pair or a FD are also toasting me.
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03-29-2021 , 09:24 AM
PokerStars - $0.05 PL Hi FAST (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 171.2 BB
SB: 144.8 BB
BB: 319.4 BB
UTG: 97.6 BB
MP: 523.4 BB
CO: 472 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has T A 6 A

UTG calls 1 BB, MP raises to 4.4 BB, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, fold, UTG calls 9 BB, MP calls 5.6 BB

Flop: (31.4 BB, 3 players) 9 3 K
UTG checks, MP checks, Hero checks

Turn: (31.4 BB, 3 players) 4
UTG checks, MP bets 30.2 BB, Hero calls 30.2 BB, fold

River: (91.8 BB, 2 players) T
MP checks, Hero checks

MP shows K 6 J A (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 25%, Flop 23%, Turn 33%)
Hero shows T A 6 A (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 75%, Flop 77%, Turn 68%)
Hero wins 88.2 BB

Here the question is: my hand seems strong-mid and there are two players. If I bet I like turns that pair the low part of the board, together with Q,J to turn me a straight draw and of course clubs. Hands that can pay me here are: Kings and inside wraps as well as smaller flush draw, so peraphs a cbet here was in order and I can check back the turn if a straight completes and keep betting if the board pairs (assuming one of the opponent folds to the cbet)?
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03-29-2021 , 09:26 AM
PokerStars - $0.05 PL Hi FAST (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 111.6 BB
SB: 232.6 BB
Hero (BB): 215 BB
UTG: 237.4 BB
MP: 100 BB
CO: 163 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 9 Q J A

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 3.4 BB, SB raises to 9 BB, Hero calls 8 BB, fold

Flop: (21.4 BB, 2 players) K 7 6
SB bets 10 BB, Hero calls 10 BB

Turn: (41.4 BB, 2 players) 4
SB checks, Hero bets 24 BB, SB calls 24 BB

River: (89.4 BB, 2 players) 5
SB checks, Hero bets 60 BB, fold

Hero wins 86 BB

Probably a fold pre instead of cold calling a 3bet? (matrix is saying to call AQJT good suited only in this exact spot)

Here I am floating with some backdoor equity, thinking this flop can't have hit my 3 betting opponent hard and I am planning to bluff when I call on the flop.
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04-01-2021 , 12:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lessons4r3Extra
PokerStars - $0.05 PL Hi FAST (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 177.2 BB
SB: 233.4 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 120.6 BB
MP: 101 BB
CO: 226.2 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A J K K

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2 BB, SB calls 1.6 BB, BB calls 1 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 3 players) 7 6 Q
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 5.8 BB, fold, BB calls 5.8 BB

Turn: (17.6 BB, 2 players) 5
BB bets 17 BB, fold

BB wins 17 BB

Is this a reasonable turn fold against unknown oppo? I have seen this sizing of almost pot a lot and it usually turns out to be the nuts. I also I am either catching a bluff or I am drawing dead. Semi bluff with two pair or a FD are also toasting me.
No blockers, don't bet flop. Yes fold turn. This is not even remotely close to a continue with the worst blockers possible.

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Originally Posted by Lessons4r3Extra
PokerStars - $0.05 PL Hi FAST (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 171.2 BB
SB: 144.8 BB
BB: 319.4 BB
UTG: 97.6 BB
MP: 523.4 BB
CO: 472 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has T A 6 A

UTG calls 1 BB, MP raises to 4.4 BB, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, fold, UTG calls 9 BB, MP calls 5.6 BB

Flop: (31.4 BB, 3 players) 9 3 K
UTG checks, MP checks, Hero checks

Turn: (31.4 BB, 3 players) 4
UTG checks, MP bets 30.2 BB, Hero calls 30.2 BB, fold

River: (91.8 BB, 2 players) T
MP checks, Hero checks

MP shows K 6 J A (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 25%, Flop 23%, Turn 33%)
Hero shows T A 6 A (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 75%, Flop 77%, Turn 68%)
Hero wins 88.2 BB

Here the question is: my hand seems strong-mid and there are two players. If I bet I like turns that pair the low part of the board, together with Q,J to turn me a straight draw and of course clubs. Hands that can pay me here are: Kings and inside wraps as well as smaller flush draw, so peraphs a cbet here was in order and I can check back the turn if a straight completes and keep betting if the board pairs (assuming one of the opponent folds to the cbet)?
Might bet flop.

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Originally Posted by Lessons4r3Extra
PokerStars - $0.05 PL Hi FAST (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 111.6 BB
SB: 232.6 BB
Hero (BB): 215 BB
UTG: 237.4 BB
MP: 100 BB
CO: 163 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 9 Q J A

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 3.4 BB, SB raises to 9 BB, Hero calls 8 BB, fold

Flop: (21.4 BB, 2 players) K 7 6
SB bets 10 BB, Hero calls 10 BB

Turn: (41.4 BB, 2 players) 4
SB checks, Hero bets 24 BB, SB calls 24 BB

River: (89.4 BB, 2 players) 5
SB checks, Hero bets 60 BB, fold

Hero wins 86 BB

Probably a fold pre instead of cold calling a 3bet? (matrix is saying to call AQJT good suited only in this exact spot)

Here I am floating with some backdoor equity, thinking this flop can't have hit my 3 betting opponent hard and I am planning to bluff when I call on the flop.
This is not a cold call, though certain conditions let you call some. Why are you calling flop? You have better hands than this.
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04-13-2021 , 01:58 AM
UTG: 90 bb
HJ: 140 bb
CO: 500 bb
BTN: 80 bb
SB: 110 bb
BB (Hero): 120 bb

Hero has A Q 4 2

Preflop: (1.5 bb, 6 players)
UTG fold, HJ call, CO call, BTN call, SB fold, Hero check

Flop: (4.5 bb in pot, 4 players) 8 J T

Hero check, HJ check, CO bet 1 bb, BTN fold, Hero call, HJ fold

Turn: (6.5 bb in pot, 2 players) 8 J T 2

Hero check, CO bet 1 bb, Hero raise to 9.5 bb...

Spoiler:
CO fold


My thought process:

Preflop > Happy to see a flop from the big blind with this sort-of-garbage but kind-of-playable suited-Ace hand.

Flop > Nut gutshot with nut backdoor flush draw. I have the Q as blocker for the nut straight. Min bet from cutoff suggests they don't have nut straight. I call because of my outs + possible opportunity to bluff at pot on turn.

Turn > I hit bottom pair. Puts flush draw on board, but doesn't change dynamic otherwise. When cutoff min bets again after I check to him, the combination of two min bets and me having Q blocker make me pretty confident he doesn't have the nut straight, and I check-raise based off that. I do have some outs if he has two-pair, but I don't think I really weighed that in my decision at the time.

It felt like an aggressive play for me, but calculated. Interested to hear people's thoughts. Thanks.
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04-13-2021 , 10:30 AM
I think you want blockers to really get creative. Of course this can be an okay explo spot, but without more certainty you can become really easy to trap.
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04-13-2021 , 03:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by InkyPoker
I think you want blockers to really get creative. Of course this can be an okay explo spot, but without more certainty you can become really easy to trap.
In this specific hand I have one Q as straight blocker. Would one more blocker in my hand be enough (say a Q or club) to justify getting creative, or would I want two more blockers?

P.S. and in this specific hand, I’m getting my 2 blocking a set /2-pair isn’t much of a blocker.
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04-13-2021 , 08:21 PM
<-- Personal opinion.

You probably want like a Q, a club AND a pair, stacked blockers.
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05-14-2021 , 08:00 AM
PokerStars - $0.05 PL Hi FAST (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 142.6 BB
SB: 187.2 BB
BB: 116.2 BB
Hero (UTG): 187.8 BB
MP: 100 BB
CO: 9.8 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 6 9 9 7

Hero raises to 3.4 BB, fold, CO raises to 9.8 BB and is all-in, fold, fold, BB calls 8.8 BB, Hero calls 6.4 BB

Flop: (29.8 BB, 3 players) J 9 4
BB checks, Hero bets 20 BB, BB raises to 88.6 BB, Hero raises to 157.2 BB, BB calls 17.8 BB and is all-in

Turn: (242.6 BB, 3 players) 3

River: (242.6 BB, 3 players) 6

BB shows J 2 2 J (Three of a Kind, Jacks)

Main Pot [29.8 BB]: (Pre 34%, Flop 51%, Turn 67%)
Side Pot#1 [212.8 BB]: (Pre 62%, Flop 60%, Turn 72%)

Hero shows 6 9 9 7 (Three of a Kind, Nines)

Main Pot [29.8 BB]: (Pre 30%, Flop 40%, Turn 28%)
Side Pot#1 [212.8 BB]: (Pre 38%, Flop 40%, Turn 28%)

CO shows 5 A 4 A (One Pair, Aces)

Main Pot [29.8 BB]: (Pre 37%, Flop 9%, Turn 6%)

BB wins 233.2 BB

I feel like I can't really fold a set on the flop here also having the FD and backdoor straights? Should I have not c-bet here and try control the pot/induce a turn steal with non-nut holdings?

Is preflop OK at all or should I just have checked it and seen the flop?
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05-14-2021 , 08:41 AM
Fold pre UTG.

You don't want to pot control with a set+fd you want to protect and get money in. You won't induce too many steals in an empty side pot, too. Cooler, don't be results oriented.
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05-14-2021 , 11:26 AM
Pre is loose but not extremely so.

Flop is obv a get it in, you shouldn't be questioning it. Leading vs check raising is debatable though.
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05-14-2021 , 12:04 PM
leading when in position is kinda hard and CO is AI PF so x/r is going to be tough.
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05-20-2021 , 10:46 AM
PokerMaster, Omaha Pot Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players
Hand delivered by Upswing Poker

UTG: $6.25 (63 bb)
MP: $9.20 (92 bb)
CO: $7.65 (77 bb)
BU: $17.04 (170 bb)
SB (Hero): $12.58 (126 bb)
BB: $5.54 (55 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with Q 6 9 8
UTG calls $0.10, 1 fold, CO calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.05, BB checks

Flop: ($0.40) 7 8 5 (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets $0.38, CO calls $0.38, Hero raises to $1.90, BB folds, UTG calls $1.52, CO calls $1.52

Turn: ($6.10) 5 (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, CO checks

River: ($6.10) 8 (3 players)
Hero bets $2.13, UTG calls $2.13, CO raises to $5.65 (all-in), SB (Hero) folds, UTG folds

Total pot: $12.49 (Rake: $0.69)
CO wins $11.80

FLOP: what parameters do you guys consider when deciding to c/r vs lead these spots?

RIVER: is this bet ******ed? is check/call ******ed?
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05-25-2021 , 12:04 PM
i know its boring to analyze these multiway limped pots so I'll post my own

factors i think contribute to leading:
more opponents in the pot ( more equity realized by them when checked thru )
no spade in hand
shorter stacked opponents ( less implied in c/r -> b -> b )

c/r range should likely have str8 + fd / str8 + higher str8 redraw / str8 + set ?

so I think leading > c/r OTF with this combo

river is c/f readless imo
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08-03-2022 , 07:02 AM
Standard sizing on flop?
What about turn sizing, pot or like 2/3?

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12-19-2022 , 05:17 PM
I'm checking the turn (with the intention to x/r all-in).
- I expect V. to valuebet aswell as bluff with high frequency OTT.
- A big chunk of my 3bet range will have to check the turn (if not the flop).
- If he checks behind and the runout happens to be spades, then I like my hand for bluffcatching, too.

Not as important. I'm holding a 9, so V. is a little less likely to have J9 or something. Let's be real, most V.s won't fold set+ vs turn barrel, so who cares?
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