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11-23-2009 , 05:42 PM

#926

Poolside

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kisada

thanks for the reply.

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PL Omaha $2(BB) Replayer
SB ($161)
BB ($100)
UTG ($412)
CO ($503)
Hero ($192)

Dealt to Hero T

UTG calls $2, fold, Hero raises to $9, fold, BB calls $7, UTG calls $7

FLOP ($28) K

BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $20, BB calls $20, UTG raises to $108, Hero raises to $183 (AI), BB folds, UTG calls $75

villain here is 42/7. loose-passive, has JT here like 100% of the time. i'm shipping here after the CR every time given flush and gutshot outs, considering the equity. never thought to reconsider it but i'm just making sure: it's standard right?

i play it 2 ways depending on my mood: 1) bet and if raised im shipping it, or 2) check it back and if it gets checked through then I can hit my hand cheaply on turn. However checked, & the BB bets and the other guy re-raises im going w/ it.

but yeh, def standard to ship here after facing a c/r - ur almost never ahead, but ur not crushed and this is one of those great hands of plo

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11-23-2009 , 07:10 PM

#927

BINGOBANGOFTP

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when i raise kkxx and a shortstack in the blinds OR a shortstack who just posted OOP reraises me, does he have aaxx 100% of the time?

so far it's 100% but i've only played micro plo for a week now

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11-23-2009 , 09:07 PM

#928

Spurious

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BINGOBANGOFTP

when i raise kkxx and a shortstack in the blinds OR a shortstack who just posted OOP reraises me, does he have aaxx 100% of the time?

so far it's 100% but i've only played micro plo for a week now

I never fold KK vs a 20bb stack.

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11-23-2009 , 09:11 PM

#929

2+2=5

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 3,539

villian unknow, instapots flop. can i shove here?

Poker Stars $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: $161.00
Hero (BTN/SB): $237.80

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BTN/SB with K

Hero raises to $6, BB raises to $18, Hero calls $12

Flop: ($36.00) 2

(2 players)
BB bets $35.50, Hero ?

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11-23-2009 , 09:15 PM

#930

IcarusJam

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,140

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2+2=5

Hero raises to $6, BB raises to $18, Hero calls $12

Flop: ($36.00) 2

(2 players)
BB bets $35.50, Hero ?

reads, dynamic flow aside from timing?

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11-23-2009 , 09:26 PM

#931

2+2=5

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 3,539

well we played like 5 hands or so, no real reads. never seen him before. his not reg

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11-23-2009 , 10:42 PM

#932

BINGOBANGOFTP

adept

Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 795

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spurious

I never fold KK vs a 20bb stack.

is this stubbornness or have i just been getting unlucky

like the fact i always run into aces has me a bit concerned

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11-23-2009 , 10:57 PM

#933

mayor_haggar

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Villain was playing 26/22/3.8 over 60-odd hands, hand't really got out of line. Standard fold?

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 4 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN: $21.10
SB: $27.25
Hero (BB): $47.50
CO: $45.30

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with 8

CO raises to $0.85, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.80) A

(2 players)
Hero bets $1.50, CO calls $1.50

Turn: ($4.80) 8

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $3.25, Hero raises to $13, CO calls $9.75

River: ($30.80) K

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $29.30, Hero folds

Final Pot: $30.80
CO wins $29.30
(Rake: $1.50)

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11-24-2009 , 02:46 AM

#934

Stackajawea

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Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 5,100

villain is 55/1/1.1.. do I srsly have to lay this down???

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PL Omaha $0.25(BB) Poker Stars
SB ($44.75)
Hero ($25.60)
UTG ($31.95)
UTG+1 ($22.65)
CO ($29)
BTN ($17.65)

Dealt to Hero 2

fold, fold, fold, BTN calls $0.25, SB calls $0.15, Hero checks

FLOP ($0.75) 6

SB checks, Hero bets $0.75, BTN calls $0.75, SB folds

TURN ($2.25) 6

Hero bets $1.50, BTN calls $1.50

RIVER ($5.25) 6 8 5 J

Hero bets $3.50, BTN raises to $15.15 (AI), Hero calls $11.65

Hero shows 2

7 3

4
(Pre 35%, Flop 39.5%, Turn 22.5%)

BTN shows 3

7 9
(Pre 65%, Flop 60.5%, Turn 77.5%)

BTN wins $33.80

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11-24-2009 , 06:51 AM

#935

Spurious

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BINGOBANGOFTP

is this stubbornness or have i just been getting unlucky

like the fact i always run into aces has me a bit concerned

i dont think an only 3bet AAxx strategy is profitable for an shortstack, but it might be at the lower stakes.

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11-24-2009 , 01:21 PM

#936

Hello^

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Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: $4.70
UTG: $6.20
UTG+1: $5.90
UTG+2: $9.70
Hero (MP1): $4.15
MP2: $6.75
CO: $6.00
BTN: $2.05
SB: $4.55

CO posts a big blind ($0.10)

Pre Flop: ($0.25) Hero is MP1 with A

3 folds, Hero raises to $0.45, 3 folds, SB calls $0.40, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.10) Q

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.40, SB calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.90) T

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($1.90) 5

(2 players)
SB bets $0.50

Hero??? Should I have bet on the turn? And any chance my queen pair would be good on the river?

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11-24-2009 , 01:44 PM

#937

mdb77

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Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

CO: $75.80
BTN: $118.15
SB: $197.90
BB: $118.30
Hero (UTG): $125.80

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is UTG with K

Hero raises to $3.50, 2 folds, SB calls $3, BB calls $2.50

Flop: ($10.50) 2

(3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $8, SB calls $8, BB calls $8

Turn: ($34.50) A

(3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $34.50, Hero?

Jam? Fold?...can't call right?...

guy didnt do much of consequence prior

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11-24-2009 , 02:15 PM

#938

Poolside

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mdb77

Hero raises to $3.50, 2 folds, SB calls $3, BB calls $2.50

Flop: ($10.50) 2

(3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $8, SB calls $8, BB calls $8

Turn: ($34.50) A

(3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $34.50, Hero?

Jam? Fold?...can't call right?...

guy didnt do much of consequence prior

imo, at best u may have the same hand as villain, but he could easily prob show up w/ a st8 since he's the bb and is betting hard on turn. If you call and a Diamond comes then you could be facing another large bet that you cant call.

I'd fold, you've only invested like $10 and you other option is call and hope to bluff a diamond (or have an ace come obv). If you ship he is not going anywhere and ur likely drawing thin

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11-24-2009 , 02:17 PM

#939

Poolside

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hello^

3 folds, Hero raises to $0.45, 3 folds, SB calls $0.40, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.10) Q

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.40, SB calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.90) T

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($1.90) 5

(2 players)
SB bets $0.50

Hero??? Should I have bet on the turn? And any chance my queen pair would be good on the river?

bet more on flop. Yes, bet the turn. On river you could raise his 1/4pot bet since it looks weak

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11-25-2009 , 05:36 AM

#940

Hello^

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Why is this 36.83% for the top set player? Should not he be 28% ( 3queen, 1king, 3 9s = 7outs = 7x2x2 = 28%?

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11-25-2009 , 05:39 AM

#941

zolih

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hello^

Why is this 36.83% for the top set player? Should not he be 28% ( 3queen, 1king, 3 9s = 7outs = 7x2x2 = 28%?

+ if the turn card doubles on the river

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11-25-2009 , 12:34 PM

#942

Asbrock

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mayor_haggar

CO raises to $0.85, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.80) A

(2 players)
Hero bets $1.50, CO calls $1.50

Turn: ($4.80) 8

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $3.25, Hero raises to $13, CO calls $9.75

River: ($30.80) K

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $29.30, Hero folds

Final Pot: $30.80
CO wins $29.30
(Rake: $1.50)

Big fold! I think I need more than 60 hands to get a read strong enough to fold this hand.

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11-25-2009 , 12:36 PM

#943

Asbrock

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hello^

3 folds, Hero raises to $0.45, 3 folds, SB calls $0.40, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.10) Q

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.40, SB calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.90) T

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($1.90) 5

(2 players)
SB bets $0.50

Hero??? Should I have bet on the turn? And any chance my queen pair would be good on the river?

Def bet the turn.

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11-25-2009 , 02:40 PM

#944

Bert11

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Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 163

This are my stats of the 72K hands of 1-2 plo I played since this summer on stars. I know I am tight, but is this too tight? Any other comments about my stats are welcome too.

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11-25-2009 , 04:13 PM

#945

idiotprimate

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mayor_haggar

CO raises to $0.85, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.80) A

(2 players)
Hero bets $1.50, CO calls $1.50

Turn: ($4.80) 8

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $3.25, Hero raises to $13, CO calls $9.75

River: ($30.80) K

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $29.30, Hero folds

Final Pot: $30.80
CO wins $29.30
(Rake: $1.50)

I think this is pretty bad considering how under reped your hand is when you check the river...also that you shouldn't get in the habit of making folds like this.

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11-25-2009 , 05:48 PM

#946

VegasKyle

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Villain is 53/33/3 and has been in a lot of pots.

Does anyone just call the CR? If he has 46xx or 96xx I am little behind. If I just call I have a chance to bet if the board pairs and he checks or makes a weak bet.

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SB ($50)
BB ($23.60)
UTG ($294)
UTG+1 ($47.75)
Hero ($52.65)
BTN ($75.55)

Dealt to Hero J

UTG calls $0.50, fold, Hero raises to $2.25, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls $1.75

FLOP ($5.25) 8

UTG checks, Hero bets $5.25, UTG raises to $13, Hero raises to $44.25,

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11-25-2009 , 08:02 PM

#947

WWJfergusonD

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Quote:

Originally Posted by VegasKyle

UTG calls $0.50, fold, Hero raises to $2.25, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls $1.75

FLOP ($5.25) 8

UTG checks, Hero bets $5.25, UTG raises to $13, Hero raises to $44.25,

I like what you did. With that small check-raise I'm not sure if he is baiting you or testing the strength of your hand. I don't find I get baited a lot at these levels. With the depth of your stack, a shove will make him decide. And you're no worse than 40% against top set and you look even better vs. the nut straight.

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11-25-2009 , 11:13 PM

#948

freedom.fries

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mayor_haggar

CO raises to $0.85, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.80) A

(2 players)
Hero bets $1.50, CO calls $1.50

Turn: ($4.80) 8

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $3.25, Hero raises to $13, CO calls $9.75

River: ($30.80) K

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $29.30, Hero folds

Final Pot: $30.80
CO wins $29.30
(Rake: $1.50)

I fold here too. AA is the only thing that makes any sense.

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11-25-2009 , 11:18 PM

#949

jwc529

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 5,112

Quote:

Originally Posted by mayor_haggar

CO raises to $0.85, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.80) A

(2 players)
Hero bets $1.50, CO calls $1.50

Turn: ($4.80) 8

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $3.25, Hero raises to $13, CO calls $9.75

River: ($30.80) K

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $29.30, Hero folds

Final Pot: $30.80
CO wins $29.30
(Rake: $1.50)

don't like the C/R on the turn, this kind of player isn't continuing with the nut flush, and when he did continue u decided u were no longer good. although it's possible he rivered u, that would be sick.
fold

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11-26-2009 , 12:52 AM

#950

warmachine

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Here is a fun one. SB is marked with AAxx playing a half-stack. UTG + 1 is tilting and could shove his 20bb with total trash. This is really a dry-pot problem vs. the other 2 full stacks I guess. If I shove and they both fold there is more than enough dead money in the pot to make up for the -EV vs. the half stack's obvious AAxx. If one or both of the full stacks call, my hand is a likely big favorite in the ~$150 side pot. What to do... ?

Even if this is an obvious shove in this case, maybe someone could share their thoughts on similar situations involving short stacks or half stacks.

Thanks,
wm

PL Omaha $1(BB)
SB ($47.10)
BB ($137)
UTG ($135)
UTG+1 ($20)
CO ($100)
Hero ($100)

Dealt to Hero K

UTG calls $1, UTG+1 raises to $4.50, CO calls $4.50, Hero calls $4.50, SB raises to $24.50, fold, UTG calls $23.50, UTG+1 calls $15.50 (AI), CO calls $20, Hero ?

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