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| Small Stakes PL Omaha Discussion of 1/2 and below pot-limit Omaha poker |
07-24-2012, 07:00 PM
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#5176
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grinder
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 667
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*
lol i messed up the post
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PL Omaha $1(BB) Replayer
SB ($125)
BB ($112)
Hero ($193)
CO ($101)
BTN ($101)
Dealt to Hero J  9  Q  J
Hero raises to $3.50, CO calls $3.50, BTN raises to $15.50, fold, fold, Hero calls $12, fold
FLOP ($36) 3  T  K
Hero checks, BTN bets $27, Hero calls $27
TURN ($90) 3  T  K  5
Hero checks, BTN bets $59 (AI)
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07-25-2012, 10:48 AM
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#5177
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Malware Jedi
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: In front of my monitor
Posts: 12,631
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*
Quote:
Originally Posted by Optimus91
Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.
BTN: $11.73 (117.3 bb)
Hero (SB): $18.94 (189.4 bb)
BB: $18.38 (183.8 bb)
UTG: $12.49 (124.9 bb)
MP: $11.63 (116.3 bb)
CO: $5 (50 bb)
Preflop: Hero is SB with J  A  A  8 
3 folds, BTN raises to $0.35, Hero raises to $1, BB folds, BTN calls $0.65
Flop: ($2.10) 9  7  J (2 players)
Hero bets $1.60, BTN raises to $6.81, Hero raises to $17.94 and is all-in, BTN calls $3.92 and is all-in
is this OK against unknown plo10zoom player?
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No - this is a quick fold.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Optimus91
Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.
BTN: $10.27 (102.7 bb)
SB: $70.44 (704.4 bb)
BB: $58.19 (581.9 bb)
Hero (UTG): $13.79 (137.9 bb)
MP: $41.69 (416.9 bb)
CO: $53.07 (530.7 bb)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q  3  K  Q
Hero raises to $0.35, MP raises to $1.20, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.85
Flop: ($2.55) J  Q  8 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $1.09, Hero calls $1.09
Turn: ($4.73) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $3.10, Hero raises to $11.50 and is all-in, MP calls $8.40
How did I play this hand?
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The fact that villain bets twice into a board that allows a made str8 and is not concerned with you possibly slowplaying makes me think he actually has it - so I call the turn again.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Twatter
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PL Omaha $1(BB)
SB ($125)
BB ($112)
Hero ($193)
CO ($101)
BTN ($101)
Dealt to Hero J  9  Q  J
Hero raises to $3.50, CO calls $3.50, BTN raises to $15.50, fold, fold, Hero calls $12, fold
FLOP ($36) 3  T  K
Hero checks, BTN bets $27
fold?
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call. But I think fold is not horrible.
Fold to the turn shove though when 5h hits.
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07-25-2012, 12:56 PM
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#5178
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self-banned
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: trying to grind, see you on 30th
Posts: 2,466
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*
BTN is LAG pre (50/32/11 over 120), more passive post (F/T/R AF 2.6/1.9/1.5). Is it a std b/f OOP or should I still bluffcatch two streets? Thanks!
GTECH G2 (Boss) - €0.30 PL Hi (5 max) - Omaha Hi - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BB: €27.81
BTN: €137.01
Hero (SB): €35.33
Hero posts SB €0.15, BB posts BB €0.30
Pre Flop: (pot: €0.45) Hero has K  K  4  9
BTN raises to €1.05, Hero calls €0.90, BB calls €0.75
Flop: (€3.15, 3 players) 4  8  3
Hero checks, BB checks, BTN checks
Turn: (€3.15, 3 players) 9
Hero bets €2.36, fold, BTN raises to €9.52, Hero?
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07-25-2012, 05:41 PM
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#5179
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veteran
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 3,260
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*
Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 4 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13580362
SB: $3.95 (79 bb)
Hero (BB): $12.61 (252.2 bb)
CO: $5.71 (114.2 bb)
BTN: $5.13 (102.6 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BB with Q  K  Q  J
CO folds, BTN raises to $0.15, SB folds, Hero raises to $0.47, BTN calls $0.32
Flop: ($0.96) K  6  A (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks
Turn: ($0.96) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.62, BTN calls $0.62
River: ($2.20) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.58
anyone herocalling? I actually feel like he s pretty polarized. No reads though. took long before betting. Many of his bluffs beat me too i guess, so meh, just checking what you think.
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07-25-2012, 05:43 PM
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#5180
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veteran
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 3,260
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*
Sorry for double post. How do i do here multiway?
Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13580382
SB: $2.10 (42 bb)
BB: $6.01 (120.2 bb)
UTG: $5 (100 bb)
MP: $4.58 (91.6 bb)
Hero (CO): $16.46 (329.2 bb)
BTN: $1.68 (33.6 bb)
Preflop: Hero is CO with A  J  T  9
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.17, Hero raises to $0.50, BTN calls $0.50, SB raises to $2.10 and is all-in, BB folds, MP raises to $4.58 and is all-in
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07-25-2012, 06:09 PM
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#5181
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adept
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 904
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*
Quote:
Originally Posted by coon74
BTN is LAG pre (50/32/11 over 120), more passive post (F/T/R AF 2.6/1.9/1.5). Is it a std b/f OOP or should I still bluffcatch two streets? Thanks!
GTECH G2 (Boss) - €0.30 PL Hi (5 max) - Omaha Hi - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BB: €27.81
BTN: €137.01
Hero (SB): €35.33
Hero posts SB €0.15, BB posts BB €0.30
Pre Flop: (pot: €0.45) Hero has K  K  4  9
BTN raises to €1.05, Hero calls €0.90, BB calls €0.75
Flop: (€3.15, 3 players) 4  8  3
Hero checks, BB checks, BTN checks
Turn: (€3.15, 3 players) 9
Hero bets €2.36, fold, BTN raises to €9.52, Hero?
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Would he ever check 8x? If he would then 89 is credible. He could have 579, 9TJ, TJQ as well.
I'm gonna safely assume he couldn't be going for a c/r vs a stabby button cause you'd have mentioned it if it was a possibility.
Vs just 579, 9TJ, TJQ we've only got 60% We'll have to fold on a tonne of cards & won't feel great about calling on a 2 or a 5 either. It seems like a pretty good spot for him to bluff cause it'll put us in a lot of ****ty spots otr if we just call but I'm happy in assuming he doesn't know this cause most players at this limit aren't that good. Also there's the fact that his af is low.
Overall I feel there's too much risk & not enough reward.
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackDespair
Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 4 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13580362
SB: $3.95 (79 bb)
Hero (BB): $12.61 (252.2 bb)
CO: $5.71 (114.2 bb)
BTN: $5.13 (102.6 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BB with Q  K  Q  J
CO folds, BTN raises to $0.15, SB folds, Hero raises to $0.47, BTN calls $0.32
Flop: ($0.96) K  6  A (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks
Turn: ($0.96) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.62, BTN calls $0.62
River: ($2.20) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.58
anyone herocalling? I actually feel like he s pretty polarized. No reads though. took long before betting. Many of his bluffs beat me too i guess, so meh, just checking.
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I've made calls in similar spots using the same logic & they just don't bluff enough at these steaks. I think this is a good spot to bet again though, he's likely got some weak Ax,  or  draw & some straight draws too. Since c/c is kinda hard imo we could bet just to take it down cause I'd say we take it a fair amount of the time, I could be wrong though & am sometimes too bluff happy with the turn+river bluff once the flop has been checked!
In regards to your 2nd hand:
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Sorry for double post. How do I do here multiway
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Hmm, my initial answer was badly but I just ppt'd & you have 35% vs random AA so you maybe have enough to go with multiway. Mess around with ppt imo, you also might not have enough to go with cause if they're getting in like AA/KK & stuff like 9TJQ a lot of your outs could be gone.
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07-25-2012, 06:16 PM
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#5182
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adept
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 904
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*
Villain here is 81/17 over 64 hands, folds to ~50% of cbets over 18 hands. How do we feel about a turn barrel? The pots gettin kinda big & I'm not sure where I'm at. I feel like he can peel this flop really light like 2x+gs, 6x+gs & obv worse Qx. If he hit a random 2p ott I still have 30%, if he turned a bigger draw I'm probly not doing too bad ~60% I'd guess if he had a pear to go w/ it, pure value vs Qx & then he's folding some too.
So given all the factors I thought it was a fine spot for a double but my uncertainty led to me betting smaller, I'd say I should just go to $4.
Thoughts on my thoughts?
IPoker, $0.10/$0.20 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.
BB: $20 (100 bb)
UTG: $24 (120 bb)
Hero (MP): $20 (100 bb)
CO: $20.64 (103.2 bb)
BTN: $30.83 (154.1 bb)
SB: $8.39 (42 bb)
Preflop: Hero is MP with A  9  T  Q 
CO posts BB OOP, UTG folds, Hero raises to $1, CO folds, BTN calls $1, 2 folds
Flop: ($2.60) 6  2  Q (2 players)
Hero bets $1.80, BTN calls $1.80
Turn: ($6.20) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $3.40
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07-26-2012, 06:12 AM
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#5183
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: You can be my wingman any time
Posts: 12,420
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackDespair
Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 4 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13580362
SB: $3.95 (79 bb)
Hero (BB): $12.61 (252.2 bb)
CO: $5.71 (114.2 bb)
BTN: $5.13 (102.6 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BB with Q  K  Q  J
CO folds, BTN raises to $0.15, SB folds, Hero raises to $0.47, BTN calls $0.32
Flop: ($0.96) K  6  A (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks
Turn: ($0.96) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.62, BTN calls $0.62
River: ($2.20) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.58
anyone herocalling? I actually feel like he s pretty polarized. No reads though. took long before betting. Many of his bluffs beat me too i guess, so meh, just checking what you think.
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I would start by betting the flop.
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07-27-2012, 04:25 AM
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#5184
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adept
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: PG&C thread
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*
both players seem fishy, the cold 4bettor is playing 49/25 with a 3b of 13 over 65 hands. wasn't sure if i should have just folded but i figured my equity vs what looks like AAxx and some random crap can't be too bad?
PokerStars - $0.50 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
MP: $59.32
CO: $34.94
Hero (BTN): $50.00
SB: $31.40
BB: $23.79
UTG: $53.10
SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has K  Q  Q  K
fold, fold, CO raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $4.50, fold, BB raises to $15.25, CO calls $13.75, Hero raises to $50.00 and is all-in,
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07-27-2012, 04:27 AM
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#5185
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adept
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: PG&C thread
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*
villain is 42/0 over 25 hands. felt stupid folding but his bet looks strong from a passive player and i didn't have a plan for the hand so i just folded - too weak?
PokerStars - $0.50 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
Hero (CO): $94.17
BTN: $59.91
SB: $51.41
BB: $50.00
UTG: $21.43
MP: $42.67
SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has K  9  5  K
fold, MP raises to $1.75, Hero calls $1.75, fold, SB calls $1.50, BB calls $1.25
Flop: ($7.00, 4 players) 2  7  9
SB bets $5.01, fold, fold, fold
SB wins $6.68
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07-27-2012, 11:02 AM
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#5186
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journeyman
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: arctic circle
Posts: 372
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*
1# ok to jam it pre that deep
2# I'd sometime float it
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07-27-2012, 05:39 PM
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#5187
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veteran
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Slowrollin w/o timebank!
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*
BB is 100/0 over 8 hands.
CO is 65/14 and a huge station.
Is there any merit to just flat CO shove? I shoved b/c I didn't want to lose action vs BB on some turns if he has sth. like warp+pair.
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PL Omaha $0.50(BB) Replayer
Hero ($81.62)
BB ($89.23)
UTG ($50)
CO ($34.22)
BTN ($41.81)
Dealt to Hero 2  A  3  A
UTG calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50, fold, Hero raises to $2.50, BB calls $2, UTG calls $2, CO calls $2
FLOP ($10) T  5  J
Hero bets $8.50, BB raises to $27, UTG folds, CO raises to $31.72 (AI), Hero raises to $79.12 (AI)
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07-27-2012, 05:47 PM
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#5188
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journeyman
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: arctic circle
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*
shove's fine
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07-28-2012, 02:29 AM
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#5189
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*
vwp
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07-28-2012, 03:35 AM
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#5190
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adept
Join Date: Mar 2011
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*
the limp/caller is a fish, raiser is a reg. i felt kind of stupid just giving up here after 3betting and having position but i just felt it was so unlikely that my cbet takes it down and i'm not happy about many turns, is this ok?
PokerStars - $0.50 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
SB: $141.24
BB: $37.36
UTG: $24.80
MP: $50.03
CO: $92.61
Hero (BTN): $55.11
SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has 7  6  J  T
UTG calls $0.50, MP calls $0.50, CO raises to $2.75, Hero raises to $6.50, fold, fold, fold, MP calls $6.00, CO calls $3.75
Flop: ($20.75, 3 players) 8  J  K
MP checks, CO checks, Hero checks
Turn: ($20.75, 3 players) 2
MP checks, CO bets $14.86, fold, fold
CO wins $19.82
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