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Old 07-10-2012, 06:34 PM   #5131
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

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is this line fine vs some1 3betting 27%?

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Hero raises to $0.85, SB raises to $2.80, fold, Hero raises to $8.65, SB calls $5.85

FLOP ($17.55) K K 8

SB checks, Hero bets $4.20
Wow, 27% is a tonne. If he really is 3betting that much then he should fold plenty here but that sizing he might peel v wide. I was thinking cb 1/2 pot to make your hand look more legit, but then I got to wondering what he'd do w/ fd's. I might just mash the pot button to maximize FE vs fd's but I'm not sure if that's worth it compared to 1/2 psb.

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also on a scale of 1-10 how retarded is this 3 barrel?

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fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.75, BB calls $0.50

FLOP ($1.50) T Q 7

Hero bets $1.12, BB calls $1.12

TURN ($3.74) T Q 7 3

Hero bets $2.80, BB calls $2.80

RIVER ($9.34) T Q 7 3 T

Hero bets $9.34
I agree with everything mike says on this hand. There's a tonne of draws he can continue with so that leaves us lost as to which rivers we can bluff & which we can't.
As played if you know villain can fold a flush you got a pretty nice card. But I wouldn't count on a random player folding a flush that he just hit, they sometimes get overly attached cause they just got there & they can't fold now!
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Old 07-10-2012, 06:42 PM   #5132
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

V quick question, are you cbetting this 4 ways? I felt a bit unsure.
Button is 20/8, SB is 24/14, BB is 12/8. So pretty tight ranges all round, which adds to the arguments for cbetting cause these guys miss this flop a lot.

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    Hero (MP): $25.93 (129.6 bb)
    CO: $15 (75 bb)
    BTN: $20 (100 bb)
    SB: $35.13 (175.7 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with A 7 6 A
    CO posts BB OOP, Hero raises to $1, CO folds, BTN calls $1, SB calls $0.90, BB calls $0.80

    Flop: ($4.30) 7 2 4 (4 players)
    SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $2.40, 2 folds, BB raises to $4.80, Hero folds





    Villain is 51/6 over ~400 hands. Would you cb this turn? He'll continue w/ worse Tx, 7x+gs type stuff, 89, AT/JJ/QQ & obv 2x. But he'll also fold some random sht that he peeled otf like bdfd stuff, bare gs+oc, so folding out those hands is pretty good for our hand. Standard?


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      Hero (MP): $20.66 (103.3 bb)
      CO: $26.85 (134.3 bb)
      BTN: $22.11 (110.6 bb)
      SB: $12.55 (62.8 bb)
      BB: $18.80 (94 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP with 4 K J T
      UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.70, 2 folds, SB calls $0.60, BB folds

      Flop: ($1.60) 7 T 2 (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $1, SB calls $1

      Turn: ($3.60) 2 (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $2.40

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      Old 07-11-2012, 06:15 AM   #5133
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      Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

      ya I think both of those are ok. Both are pretty much protection bets and I think its fine. Hand 2 I think your range seems pretty good for this player type so I would just bet to fold out those gutshot type hands or like a7** type hands that peeled flop. Hand 1 is closer and in game I am a little unsure of these spots myself but you obv can't call almost all turns so I think I like betting here as well to fold out one pair hands and reeval turn if called...
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      Old 07-11-2012, 12:06 PM   #5134
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      Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

      Cool cool.
      Yeah in hand one it's like the flop is our only chance to win the hand.
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      Old 07-12-2012, 05:28 PM   #5135
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      Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

      Limper is 45/0 over 80. The button is 42/21 over 21.
      C/f flop is def a no no I think.

      I'm 20% vs Tx so If I bet I'm gonna get nearly the right price on the call no matter what. They're def just out right folding sometimes too though so I think I gotta go.

      Also once we're flatted otf we're done, correct? Despite the ridic spr he's always got us.

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        CO: $14.74 (73.7 bb)
        BTN: $32.89 (164.5 bb)
        SB: $20 (100 bb)
        Hero (BB): $20 (100 bb)
        UTG: $18.59 (92.9 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is BB with K Q Q K
        2 folds, CO calls $0.20, BTN raises to $0.90, SB folds, Hero raises to $3, CO calls $2.80, BTN calls $2.10

        Flop: ($9.10) T 2 T (3 players)
        Hero bets $7, CO folds, BTN calls $7

        Turn: ($23.10) 6 (2 players)


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        Old 07-13-2012, 07:36 AM   #5136
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        Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

        Idk these spots are tough...seems pretty weak to c/f turn but I think most weaker hands he's peeling that you're ahead of just try to showdown anyway. I will say that flop bet sizing is pretty bad I think...b/c is def too loose imo so I would prob b/f like 4-5 OTF and check most turns if called. I just don't see people really making moves on these flops enough to have a reason to do anything else.
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        Old 07-14-2012, 04:57 PM   #5137
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        Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

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          SB: $73.24 (73.2 bb)
          BB: $115.22 (115.2 bb)
          MP: $294.14 (294.1 bb)
          Hero (CO): $100 (100 bb)
          BTN: $245.46 (245.5 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is CO with 9 9 6 6
          MP folds, Hero raises to $3.50, BTN calls $3.50, SB calls $3, BB raises to $17.50, Hero calls $14, BTN calls $14, SB raises to $73.24 and is all-in, BB raises to $115.22 and is all-in, Hero calls $82.50 and is all-in, BTN calls $97.72

          Flop: ($403.68) 9 Q Q (4 players, 3 are all-in)
          Turn: ($403.68) K (4 players, 3 are all-in)
          River: ($403.68) 7 (4 players, 3 are all-in)




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          Old 07-14-2012, 08:27 PM   #5138
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          is this line fine vs some1 3betting 27%?

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          Dealt to Hero T 9 7 6

          Hero raises to $0.85, SB raises to $2.80, fold, Hero raises to $8.65, SB calls $5.85

          FLOP ($17.55) K K 8

          SB checks, Hero bets $4.20
          I think with this hand maybe better to flat 3bet n play a smaller pot IP? Is he auto betting in 3 pot oop with that wide range?


          4bet him w more big card hands could be better to more confidently get in top pair post w the lower SPR

          On the flop you actually got I don't think he will appreciate The nuance of your sizing (that you would bet this amount also w top of ure range). I think he may just notice that you have bet small and peel wide.
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          Old 07-15-2012, 03:06 AM   #5139
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          Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

          Standard? Note he posted oop. UTG has a unique playstyle (he's a huge fish).



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            Hero (CO): $63.78 (255.1 bb)
            BTN: $76.89 (307.6 bb)
            SB: $62.20 (248.8 bb)
            BB: $62.45 (249.8 bb)
            UTG: $19.28 (77.1 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is CO with 7 K K A
            MP posts BB OOP, UTG calls $0.25, MP raises to $1.40, Hero raises to $5.10, 3 folds, UTG calls $4.85, MP raises to $21.05, Hero raises to $63.73 and is all-in, UTG calls $14.13 and is all-in, MP calls $29.31 and is all-in

            Flop: ($120.60) 2 Q T (3 players, 3 are all-in)
            Turn: ($120.60) 6 (3 players, 3 are all-in)
            River: ($120.60) 8 (3 players, 3 are all-in)

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            Old 07-15-2012, 07:12 AM   #5140
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            Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

            I dont think it's standard readless.

            You have a blocker and he posted so yeah.
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            Old 07-15-2012, 04:45 PM   #5141
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            I dont think it's standard readless.

            You have a blocker and he posted so yeah.
            This.
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            Old 07-18-2012, 02:35 AM   #5142
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            Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

            Is this ok or a lolo_spew?

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            BB: $10.21
            UTG: $9.80
            MP: $11.94
            Hero (CO): $10.00
            BTN: $7.52

            Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with T Q 9 J


            UTG raises to $0.30, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.05, BTN calls $1.05, SB raises to $4, 2 folds, Hero raises to $10 all in,
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            Old 07-18-2012, 11:31 AM   #5143
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            Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

            Looks standard to me.
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            Old 07-18-2012, 05:48 PM   #5144
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            Is this ok or a lolo_spew?

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            Hero (CO): $10.00
            BTN: $7.52

            Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with T Q 9 J


            UTG raises to $0.30, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.05, BTN calls $1.05, SB raises to $4, 2 folds, Hero raises to $10 all in,
            The alternative is folding & that's no fun!
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            Old 07-18-2012, 05:53 PM   #5145
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            Pre isn't important. Just wondering about post.
            The donk is for value & protection. Villain is 20/10 over 97. So when he peels flop he has some fd but I'm mostly expecting a peel from QQ+ & maybe JJ? Also 5x sometimes but I don't see a tonne of them in his range.

            I posted a hand similar to this & was told I overplayed it. So I'm wondering now, did I overplay it? I subscribe to the "nobody folds a boat" vs non regs a lot & perhaps this is colouring my perception of how much value I can get?

            Thoughts? Smaller turn/smaller river?

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              Hero (BB): $20.97 (104.9 bb)
              UTG: $21.16 (105.8 bb)
              MP: $21.30 (106.5 bb)
              CO: $39.72 (198.6 bb)
              BTN: $20.75 (103.8 bb)

              Preflop: Hero is BB with 4 A Q A
              UTG raises to $0.70, MP folds, CO calls $0.70, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.50

              Flop: ($2.20) 5 5 9 (3 players)
              Hero bets $1.50, UTG folds, CO calls $1.50

              Turn: ($5.20) 5 (2 players)
              Hero bets $4, CO calls $4

              River: ($13.20) 8 (2 players)
              Hero bets $13.20

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