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Old 06-03-2012, 05:23 AM   #4996
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

Heres me getting myself in trouble again. Should I just fold pre? Is my lead OTT too ambitious?

$25 USD PL Omaha Seat 3: Ado_Bo ( $33.59 USD )

Seat 6: HERO ( $33.65 USD )
Seat 4: PACCBET ( $25 USD )
Seat 1: Paule1611 ( $8.48 USD )
Seat 2: hans10101 ( $25 USD )
Seat 5: serge74555 ( $27.15 USD )

HERO posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
Paule1611 posts big blind [$0.25 USD].

** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Tc 9c 8d Th ]

hans10101 will be using his time bank for this hand.
hans10101 raises [$0.85 USD]

serge74555 calls [$0.85 USD]
HERO calls [$0.75 USD]


** Dealing Flop ** [ 3h, 5s, Ac ]

IRON___FIST checks
hans10101 will be using his time bank for this hand.
hans10101 checks
serge74555 checks

** Dealing Turn ** [ Kc ]

HERO bets [$1.99 USD]

hans10101 raises [$6.25 USD]
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Old 06-03-2012, 07:39 AM   #4997
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

@ PTRing @ PLO25. Yeah, 7d5d3s2s is too weak imho. Defending the blind w/TT98 is normal but I find leading ott a spew because you're not repping much, plus hans has taken his timebank twice which means he's a mass multitabler and his pf range is very nitty, with lots of A/KK that won't fold; probably just c/f ott.
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Old 06-03-2012, 11:43 AM   #4998
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

Aggressive player playing 33/22.

Should I call turn or just shove? If call turn, should I shove river for value?

    Poker Stars, $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13047261

    MP: $212.56 (106.3 bb)
    CO: $107.92 (54 bb)
    BTN: $53 (26.5 bb)
    Hero (SB): $200 (100 bb)
    BB: $200 (100 bb)
    UTG: $1,033.14 (516.6 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 5 3 3 A
    4 folds, Hero raises to $6, BB calls $4

    Flop: ($12) J A 3 (2 players)
    Hero bets $9, BB calls $9

    Turn: ($30) T (2 players)
    Hero bets $22, BB raises to $62, Hero calls $40

    River: ($154) 7 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BB bets $123 and is all-in, Hero folds




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    Old 06-03-2012, 12:55 PM   #4999
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    Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

    Shove turn.
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    Old 06-03-2012, 07:35 PM   #5000
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    Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

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    @ PTRing @ PLO25. Yeah, 7d5d3s2s is too weak imho. Defending the blind w/TT98 is normal but I find leading ott a spew because you're not repping much, plus hans has taken his timebank twice which means he's a mass multitabler and his pf range is very nitty, with lots of A/KK that won't fold; probably just c/f ott.

    Thanks...but why is PTRing 25 PLO amusing please?

    Im unfamiliar with PTR and unsure of its legitimacy, seems almost everyone I look up is a losing player
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    Old 06-06-2012, 05:31 AM   #5001
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    iPoker - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 5 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

    BB: $7.91
    UTG: $10.00
    Hero (CO): $15.72
    BTN: $17.57
    SB: $11.74

    SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

    Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has 8 7 6 4

    fold, Hero raises to $0.35, BTN calls $0.35, SB calls $0.30, BB calls $0.25

    Flop: ($1.40, 4 players) 9 4 6
    SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $1.10, BTN raises to $4.70, fold, fold, Hero raises to $15.37

    Is this too aggro or is it okay,I have blockers to sets and wraps so I can't see too many hands I'm in trouble against but then there aren't many hands that call which I dominate either.Is this just one of those meh,get it in and flip spots.
    Villain is a aggro monkey fish so he can have a whole lot of crap here.
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    Old 06-06-2012, 06:40 AM   #5002
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    Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

    Given your read that he's an "aggro monkey fish" it's a std stackoff I think.

    ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
    600,000 trials (Randomized)
    board: 9 4 6
    Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
    8h 7c 6d 4c47.95% 261,62952,125
    99,66,44,96,94,64,235,357,578,78T,(9,4,6):78,9$B$B$B52.05% 286,24652,125

    (you need 44.5%)

    Edit:
    that's a conservative range for him btw. But it's still enough for us to stack off. Add some more crap to his range like any pair+gs, naked 87 etc and it becomes even better for us.

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    Old 06-10-2012, 11:01 AM   #5003
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    Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

    Is it a standard river b/f vs an unknown opp?

    €0.25/0.5 Pot-Limit Omaha Hi, 4 players

    SB €179.95
    Hero (BB) €36.9 8733
    CO €103.95
    BTN €21.85

    3 calls, Hero checks

    Flop (€2, 4 players) 953

    SB checks, Hero checks (misclick), 2 checks

    Turn T

    SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets €2, 2 folds, Hero raises to €7.5, CO calls

    River (€17, 2 players) T

    Hero bets €10, CO raises to €28.9 all-in, Hero folds
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    Old 06-10-2012, 03:09 PM   #5004
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    Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

    It's prob a right fold if hes somewhat decent player, but your flop check makes it quite interesting actually, same as your sizing otr.. Ott your repping fd/top 2/set yourself and he can have any draw/2p. You bet somewhat "weak" otr, which I like, but that's why I would prob call hes raise and see what happens. You don't need to be right that often and he might just be one of those aggrotards who just shove missed draws otr. But like I said, folding is not bad, it's whatever in my opinion..
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    Old 06-14-2012, 07:56 AM   #5005
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jayloo87 View Post
    Aggressive player playing 33/22.

    Should I call turn or just shove? If call turn, should I shove river for value?

      Poker Stars, $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13047261

      MP: $212.56 (106.3 bb)
      CO: $107.92 (54 bb)
      BTN: $53 (26.5 bb)
      Hero (SB): $200 (100 bb)
      BB: $200 (100 bb)
      UTG: $1,033.14 (516.6 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with 5 3 3 A
      4 folds, Hero raises to $6, BB calls $4

      Flop: ($12) J A 3 (2 players)
      Hero bets $9, BB calls $9

      Turn: ($30) T (2 players)
      Hero bets $22, BB raises to $62, Hero calls $40

      River: ($154) 7 (2 players)
      Hero checks, BB bets $123 and is all-in, Hero folds




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      I call this river pray he doesn't have qq+ clubs-- if u think he's Agro u should be xc this turn. His turn sizing makes me think he's setting up a barrel which is quite bluffy in itself so I'm calling more

      Didn't see h Hav a flush it's a snap xc as that Riv gives him no reason to stop bluffing
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      Old 06-14-2012, 07:58 AM   #5006
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      Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

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      Is it a standard river b/f vs an unknown opp?

      €0.25/0.5 Pot-Limit Omaha Hi, 4 players

      SB €179.95
      Hero (BB) €36.9 8733
      CO €103.95
      BTN €21.85

      3 calls, Hero checks

      Flop (€2, 4 players) 953

      SB checks, Hero checks (misclick), 2 checks

      Turn T

      SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets €2, 2 folds, Hero raises to €7.5, CO calls

      River (€17, 2 players) T

      Hero bets €10, CO raises to €28.9 all-in, Hero folds
      Don't like te the turn xr this deep defines your hand too much and can be put in tough spots v a thinking player as you cOver very few texture changes- so lead turn lead Riv get called down lighter
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      Old 06-14-2012, 06:08 PM   #5007
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      Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

      Villain is 66/22 over 196 hands. My read is that he flats the nuts on the turn on a drawy board & raised the river. I don't remember the texture but just know that's he capable of "slowplaying" like a decent T here. Although I don't think that's too relevant for this hand.

      Once he c/c flop & checks the t+r I think he has mainly fd as basically every Tx would bet the river. Is it worth sticking in a small bet, like 1/2 pot to get any fd+pear trash hands to fold? Is there enough of them?
      Fwiw, unless I bet ~$3.5+ I'd say he won't fold a J, dunno though, maybe he will.
      Thoughts?

        Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

        MP: $10.86 (108.6 bb)
        Hero (CO): $13.04 (130.4 bb)
        BTN: $15.72 (157.2 bb)
        SB: $9.90 (99 bb)
        BB: $10 (100 bb)
        UTG: $14.82 (148.2 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is CO with Q A K 6
        UTG raises to $0.35, MP folds, Hero raises to $1.20, 3 folds, UTG calls $0.85

        Flop: ($2.55) 3 T T (2 players)
        UTG checks, Hero bets $1.30, UTG calls $1.30

        Turn: ($5.15) J (2 players)
        UTG checks, Hero checks

        River: ($5.15) 7 (2 players)
        UTG checks, Hero checks

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        Old 06-15-2012, 02:53 AM   #5008
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        Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

        Yep, check back and hopefully win by kicker, with these stats he seems not smart enough to put you on 9-8 or T-7. (I know it's suicidal, but I wish there were more regs at my tables and I could triple-barrel here )
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        Old 06-15-2012, 10:53 AM   #5009
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        Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

        bet half pot river
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        Old 06-15-2012, 10:49 PM   #5010
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        Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

        I would prob just give up on river not expecting to fold out pretty much anything...I would prob continue betting on turn tho since u turn so much equity...
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