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anybody not folding here?

IPoker Network $100.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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Hero (BTN): $126.65
SB: $30.50
BB: $123.95
UTG: $74.00
MP: $95.85
CO: $105.05

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN with K

UTG calls $1, 2 folds, Hero raises to $4.50, SB calls $4, BB calls $3.50, UTG calls $3.50

Flop: ($18.00) 4

(4 players)
SB checks, BB bets $18.00, UTG calls $18, Hero calls $18, SB folds

Turn: ($72.00) A

(3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($72.00) T

(3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $51.50, Hero folds, BB folds

Final Pot: $72.00
UTG wins $69.00
(Rake: $3.00)

utg is 43/10/2.4 over only 50 hands

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10-24-2009 , 04:21 PM

#727

jumpoff

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had the excact same spot yesterday and folded too, but i was thinking "wtf" as well. he probably wouldnt be doing this with a worse flush, and i doubt many people are sick enough to do this as a bluff with 2345. much more likely he thinks that someone´s gonna pay him off now that the flush got there.

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10-24-2009 , 04:32 PM

#728

Doorbread

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Originally Posted by 2+2=5

villian unknown

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
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BTN/SB: $90.50
Hero (BB): $110.90

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with 8

BTN/SB raises to $3, Hero raises to $9, BTN/SB calls $6

Flop: ($18.00) K

(2 players)
Hero bets $13, BTN/SB calls $13

Turn: ($44.00) 3

(2 players)
Hero bets $43.50, BTN/SB raises to $68.50 all in, Hero calls $25

Check, hope he checks back, fold when he bets. We have blockers to the only possible draw on the flop, so he will show up with a hand here the vast majority of the time.

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10-24-2009 , 05:20 PM

#729

2+2=5

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Doorbread

Check, hope he checks back, fold when he bets. We have blockers to the only possible draw on the flop, so he will show up with a hand here the vast majority of the time.

k.. just thought he is peeling flop with a lots of bare top pair hands.

Last edited by 2+2=5; 10-24-2009 at 05:32 PM.

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10-24-2009 , 05:31 PM

#730

Doorbread

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Prob not a good idea to assume he folds those.

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10-25-2009 , 05:14 AM

#731

shoobri

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To weak pre?
I currently like min-raise opening UTG (premium/weak aces, premium/weak kings, premium rundowns) with this hand my intention was to 4-bet but BB did that for me.
Is anyone folding this 3-way flop?
Is there a better way to play this?

sb 77/46/2 16% 3-bet
bb 40/12/.5

Full Tilt Poker $50.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
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BB: $50.00
Hero (UTG): $56.45
CO: $82.40
BTN: $29.30
SB: $68.05

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is UTG with K

Hero raises to $1, CO calls $1, 1 fold, SB raises to $4.50, BB raises to $15.50, Hero calls $14.50, 1 fold, SB calls $11

Flop: ($47.50) 7

(3 players)
SB bets $47.50, BB calls $34.50 all in, Hero calls $40.95 all in

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10-25-2009 , 08:43 AM

#732

jwc529

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I don't like making it cheap for wide 3bettors, especially if I know my UTG range is stronger than theirs and intend to 4bet. so full pot pre
although no reason to iso likely aces after the action, no reason to go anywhere either.

can't fold flop unfortunately, too much of stack in pre even though you're fd can be kicked... still got you're running 89 or two pairs or running fd too

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10-25-2009 , 02:33 PM

#733

jwc529

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hand in question
Hand #1
Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi $0.10 Ante - 5 players
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Hero (BB): $162.15
UTG: $16.50
CO: $50.25
BTN: $48.10
SB: $242.00

Pre Flop: ($1.25) Hero is BB with A

2 folds, BTN calls $0.50, SB calls $0.25, Hero raises to $2.50, BTN calls $2, 1 fold

Flop: ($6.00) T

(2 players)
Hero bets $4.50, BTN calls $4.50

Turn: ($15.00) 7

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $12.50, Hero raises to $52.50, BTN calls $28.50 all in

River: ($97.00) 5

(2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $97.00
Hero shows A

(a pair of Aces)
BTN shows J

(two pair, Jacks and Tens)
BTN wins $94.00
(Rake: $3.00)

below is previous history

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Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi $0.10 Ante - 5 players
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Hero (BTN): $100.00
SB: $27.40
BB: $89.70
UTG: $154.85
CO: $102.75

Pre Flop: ($1.25) Hero is BTN with 9

UTG raises to $2, 1 fold, Hero calls $2, 1 fold, BB calls $1.50

Flop: ($6.75) J

(3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $4.50, Hero calls $4.50, BB calls $4.50

Turn: ($20.25) J

(3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $8.50, Hero calls $8.50, BB calls $8.50

River: ($45.75) 9

(3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $45.75, Hero raises to $84.90 all in, BB folds, UTG folds

Final Pot: $137.25
Hero wins $134.25
(Rake: $3.00)

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10-25-2009 , 02:37 PM

#734

Spurious

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I hate it and would two barrel that board or check and then fold or call depending on the size.
I dont think he is folding too much because the board is a little bit different than the one you did the bluff on. Furthermore did he not bet pot and the board was paired with no straights possible.

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10-25-2009 , 03:22 PM

#735

BananaBalla

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Yes, bet the turn or c/f, but def. don't CRAI

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10-25-2009 , 06:55 PM

#736

shoobri

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What is the correct play in this situation? Should I be folding to this turn shove? Villain obviously has J10, however with my 2nd nut flush and boat outs I can't be far behind.

Villain is 33/20/7 7.3% 3-bet

Party Poker $50.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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BB: $43.45
UTG: $7.46
MP: $50.00
CO: $63.92
Hero (BTN): $50.32
SB: $96.56

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with 6

2 folds, CO raises to $1.50, Hero calls $1.50, SB calls $1.25, BB calls $1

Flop: ($6.00) K

(4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, CO bets $4.00, Hero raises to $17.70, SB folds, BB folds, CO calls $13.70

Turn: ($41.40) 9

(2 players)
CO bets $39.00, Hero calls $31.12 all in

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10-25-2009 , 07:07 PM

#737

Spurious

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lol, do the equity calc and see yourself!

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10-26-2009 , 07:04 AM

#738

zolih

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spewy stackoff?
villain is 92/40 cbet 80 % AF turn river : 8/ 10 120hand

he never folded anything.
raised utg, then coldcalled a 3bet+4bet with AK34s..etc. but running really hot.
he either won the hand without showdown bc everyone kept folding to him or he win 100% at showdown bc he never floppod worse than 2pair +draw.

he made the cbets, barrels instantly

$0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
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5 Players
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Stacks:
UTG ($215.30)
CO ($398.10)
Hero (BTN) ($100)
SB ($34.75)
BB ($98.50)

Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 5 players) Hero is BTN A

1 fold, CO raises to $3.50, Hero calls $3.50, 2 folds

Flop: A

($8.50, 2 players)
CO bets $8.50, Hero calls $8.50

Turn: 10

($25.50, 2 players)
CO bets $25.50, Hero calls $25.50

River: Q

($76.50, 2 players)
CO bets $76.50, Hero calls $62.50

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10-26-2009 , 10:22 AM

#739

shoobri

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zolih

1 fold, CO raises to $3.50, Hero calls $3.50, 2 folds

Flop: A

($8.50, 2 players)
CO bets $8.50, Hero calls $8.50

Turn: 10

($25.50, 2 players)
CO bets $25.50, Hero calls $25.50

River: Q

($76.50, 2 players)
CO bets $76.50, Hero calls $62.50

IMHO I would wait for a better opporunity to stack off. In this situation I would expect to see Villain show up with a busted club draw.

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10-26-2009 , 06:49 PM

#740

marek_heinz

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spewy stackoff?
villain is 92/40 cbet 80 % AF turn river : 8/ 10 120hand

he never folded anything.
raised utg, then coldcalled a 3bet+4bet with AK34s..etc. but running really hot.
he either won the hand without showdown bc everyone kept folding to him or he win 100% at showdown bc he never floppod worse than 2pair +draw.

he made the cbets, barrels instantly

$0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
FullTiltPoker
5 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($215.30)
CO ($398.10)
Hero (BTN) ($100)
SB ($34.75)
BB ($98.50)

Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 5 players) Hero is BTN A J 6 10
1 fold, CO raises to $3.50, Hero calls $3.50, 2 folds

Flop: A 3 2 ($8.50, 2 players)
CO bets $8.50, Hero calls $8.50

Turn: 10 ($25.50, 2 players)
CO bets $25.50, Hero calls $25.50

River: Q ($76.50, 2 players)
CO bets $76.50, Hero calls $62.50

if you had info villain is this bad, I definitely ship the turn for value

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10-26-2009 , 09:08 PM

#741

Badslide

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Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $0.20(BB) Replayer
SB ($17.83)
BB ($17.48)
UTG ($80.05)
CO ($80.42)
Hero ($24.50)

Dealt to Hero 7

fold, CO raises to $0.70, Hero raises to $2.40, fold, BB calls $2.20, CO calls $1.70,

FLOP ($7.30) 5

check, check, Hero bets $5, BB raises to $15.08 (AI), CO calls $15.08, Hero raises to $22.10 (AI), CO calls $7.02,

TURN ($66.58) 5

RIVER ($66.58) 5

Villians kinda loose

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10-26-2009 , 10:10 PM

#742

2+2=5

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Badslide

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $0.20(BB) Replayer
SB ($17.83)
BB ($17.48)
UTG ($80.05)
CO ($80.42)
Hero ($24.50)

Dealt to Hero 7

fold, CO raises to $0.70, Hero raises to $2.40, fold, BB calls $2.20, CO calls $1.70,

FLOP ($7.30) 5

check, check, Hero bets $5, BB raises to $15.08 (AI), CO calls $15.08, Hero raises to $22.10 (AI), CO calls $7.02,

TURN ($66.58) 5

RIVER ($66.58) 5

Villians kinda loose

well played? no ther way to do it here i think.

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10-27-2009 , 04:33 AM

#743

zolih

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marek_heinz, schoobri tx.

I just called the turn to keep in his bluff range.

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10-27-2009 , 04:37 AM

#744

shoobri

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Standard? Spew? Is two pair good here? Villain is 40/16/1. (I checked behind on the flop because of the heart draw)

Full Tilt Poker $50.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
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BB: $123.15
UTG: $24.25
CO: $91.40
Hero (BTN): $55.75
SB: $18.35

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with 9

UTG calls $0.50, CO raises to $2.25, Hero raises to $8, 3 folds, CO calls $5.75

Flop: ($17.25) 4

(2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($17.25) 9

(2 players)
CO bets $9.00, Hero calls $9

River: ($35.25) 2

(2 players)
CO bets $17.00, Hero raises to $38.75, CO calls $21.75

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10-27-2009 , 10:59 AM

#745

zolih

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I just call if he is capable of attacking weakness. dont like the raise bc his river range is polarized.

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10-27-2009 , 11:29 AM

#746

marek_heinz

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bet/fold the flop, as played fold river

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10-27-2009 , 01:39 PM

#747

Poolside

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Originally Posted by shoobri

UTG calls $0.50, CO raises to $2.25, Hero raises to $8, 3 folds, CO calls $5.75

Flop: ($17.25) 4

(2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($17.25) 9

(2 players)
CO bets $9.00, Hero calls $9

River: ($35.25) 2

(2 players)
CO bets $17.00, Hero raises to $38.75, CO calls $21.75

i do not like the river move at all - he is not bet/folding here very often, espcially when getting about 3.5:1 to call.

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10-27-2009 , 02:11 PM

#748

sakki

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BTN is 36/9/2.5 w/ 0 3-bet % over 112 hands, SB 42/13/0.9 over smaller sample size. Earlier in the session BTN got very aggro on a limped 3-way pot where he lead 6c7s8h flop, got called from both opps, check-potted 4s turn, and showed As9c8s2d when opp folded.

To the hand:

Everest Poker $100.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
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Hero (BB): $151.05
UTG: $202.25
CO: $580.84
BTN: $113.80
SB: $96.10

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with 4

2 folds, BTN raises to $3.50, SB calls $3, Hero raises to $14, BTN calls $10.50, SB calls $10.50

Flop: ($42.00) T

(3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $25.00, BTN calls $25, SB folds

Turn: ($92.00) 7

(2 players)
Hero ?

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10-27-2009 , 06:02 PM

#749

sakki

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I suck at posting, the whole hand:

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $1(BB) Replayer
SB ($96.10)
Hero ($151)
UTG ($202)
CO ($580)
BTN ($113)

Dealt to Hero 4

fold, fold, BTN raises to $3.50, SB calls $3, Hero raises to $14, BTN calls $10.50, SB calls $10.50

FLOP ($42) T

SB checks, Hero bets $25, BTN calls $25, SB folds

TURN ($92) T

Hero bets $92, BTN calls $74.80 (AI)

RIVER ($241) T 3 3 7

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10-28-2009 , 08:22 AM

#750

shoobri

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sakki

I suck at posting, the whole hand:

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $1(BB) Replayer
SB ($96.10)
Hero ($151)
UTG ($202)
CO ($580)
BTN ($113)

Dealt to Hero 4

fold, fold, BTN raises to $3.50, SB calls $3, Hero raises to $14, BTN calls $10.50, SB calls $10.50

FLOP ($42) T

SB checks, Hero bets $25, BTN calls $25, SB folds

TURN ($92) T

Hero bets $92, BTN calls $74.80 (AI)

RIVER ($241) T 3 3 7

Personally I would have checked the flop with the spade draw and played pot control 150bb deep. Also on paired boards I'll try and check down my 2 pair hands because villain either has that random 3 or is slow playing a boat, but maybe my approach is too weak.

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