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Old 02-02-2012, 08:30 PM   #4426
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

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Envoy22> Weak fold
Fold as in, my hand is weak so I should fold; or it would be weak to fold?
Btn is the flop raiser btw, I deleted his action by mistake.
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Old 02-02-2012, 09:20 PM   #4427
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

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Fold as in, my hand is weak so I should fold; or it would be weak to fold?
Btn is the flop raiser btw, I deleted his action by mistake.
no way you can fold it
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Old 02-03-2012, 10:27 AM   #4428
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

Should I fold turn? vil is 25/15

Winamax - €1 PL Hi (5 max) - Omaha - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: €111.69
SB: €143.20
Hero (BB): €88.34
UTG: €115.04

SB posts SB €0.50, Hero posts BB €1.00

Pre Flop: (€1.50) Hero has 6 3 7 5

UTG raises to €3.50, fold, SB raises to €11.50, Hero calls €10.50, UTG calls €8.00

Flop: (€34.50, 3 players) 6 J 5
SB bets €17.50, Hero calls €17.50, fold

Turn: (€69.50, 2 players) 2
SB bets €46.00, Hero raises to €59.34 and is all-in, SB calls €13.34

River: (€188.18, 2 players) T
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Old 02-03-2012, 11:30 AM   #4429
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

$0.02/$0.05 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
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6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Hero ($6.23)
UTG+1 sir meti ($8.32)
CO gwannabe1 ($5)
BTN deucesrgood ($1.39)
SB Da$oulDude ($2.32)
BB LAWMcC ($3.38)

Pre-Flop: ($0.07, 6 players) Hero is UTG Q 3 3 Q
Hero raises to $0.15, sir-meti calls $0.15, gwannabe1 calls $0.15, deucesrgood calls $0.15, Da$oulDude calls $0.13, LAWMcC calls $0.10

Flop: 3 J 7 ($0.90, 6 players)
Da$oulDude checks, LAWMcC checks, Hero checks, sir-meti bets $0.43, 2 folds, Da$oulDude calls $0.43, LAWMcC folds, Hero raises to $1.44, sir-meti raises to $5.61, Da$oulDude goes all-in $1.74, Hero goes all-in $6.08, sir-meti calls $0.47

Turn: 7 ($15.23, 3 players, 2 all-in)

River: 3 ($15.23, 3 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $15.23

Sir-meti - 62/2
Da$oulDude - 83/17 (massive spaz aswell)

dislike my play.

don't know why i checked this flop, i think i should definitely be betting it.
after checking, there is definitely value in raising, but i'm not sure if i should?
when sir-meti re-raises he probably always has me beat because he is so passive. it might be possible that he could have a hand like J1098,J1097 etc but i think it's kinda unlikely.

would you just flat, raise/fold or is raise/get it in fine?
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Old 02-03-2012, 11:53 AM   #4430
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

wp
raise bigger otf
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Old 02-03-2012, 04:04 PM   #4431
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

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raise bigger otf
ok ty.


$0.02/$0.05 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
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Stacks:
UTG MTncfc ($2.63)
UTG+1 zluka88 ($3.63)
CO shegaiv ($6.85)
BTN Hero ($8.52)
SB pancser123 ($2.55)
BB spalted ($5)

Pre-Flop: ($0.07, 6 players) Hero is BTN A 7 A J
1 fold, zluka88 calls $0.05, shegaiv calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.27, 2 folds, zluka88 folds, shegaiv calls $0.22

Flop: Q 6 K ($0.66, 2 players)
shegaiv checks, Hero bets $0.38, shegaiv calls $0.38

Turn: 6 ($1.42, 2 players)
shegaiv checks, Hero bets $0.78, shegaiv calls $0.78

River: 8 ($2.98, 2 players)
shegaiv bets $2.86 Hero????

When this hand happened villain had only been on the table 4 hands. i think he'd played 3/4 hands and hadn't given up easily post-flop.

firstly i think my flop and turn sizings are too small. i bet the turn for value from Kx type hands and draws. Not sure whether villain will be folding draws or not, but he definitely seemed loose.
Can we look him up otr? all draws missed and we beat any two-pair...
but as he appears to be quite loose he has a lot of 6's he could be v-betting with.

stats after 48 hands
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Old 02-03-2012, 06:55 PM   #4432
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

    Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
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    SB: $106.26 (106.3 bb)
    BB: $250.29 (250.3 bb)
    MP: $114.36 (114.4 bb)
    CO: $53.73 (53.7 bb)
    Hero (BTN): $105.93 (105.9 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with 8 T A Q
    2 folds, Hero raises to $3, SB folds, BB calls $2

    Flop: ($6.50) 3 2 8 (2 players)
    BB bets $4, Hero calls $4

    Turn: ($14.50) T (2 players)
    BB bets $9, Hero raises to $36, BB folds

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    Villain is playing 80/7 and is donking out close to half the time when he calls from the blinds. Flop call is obvious imo. I am interested in how people play turns when weak players make two weak leads and we have no strong read on later street tendencies. I usually have such players on a range of weakish draws and weak made hands that want to "see where they are at". Of late I have been raising OTT near-pot since I don't want them to realize their equity cheap with say K986dd. My problem comes with if/when I get shipped on on the turn. The players who play this wide of a range tend to have all the pairs and I can end up value stacking myself against bottom set. Is raise/folding the turn here acceptable or do we just get it in with top two against these players and suck it up when they have a set? Obviously a decent player can exploit this by bet/reshipping a ton of draws but it seems like many of the SSPLO rec players will probe a lot and just get in sets+. Thanks,
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    Old 02-04-2012, 03:09 PM   #4433
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    Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

    Just want to check if this is a mistake calling or not? bb was playing 89/31/13.6


      Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
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      SB: $10 (100 bb)
      BB: $8.86 (88.6 bb)
      Hero (UTG): $14.47 (144.7 bb)
      MP: $7.15 (71.5 bb)
      CO: $6.94 (69.4 bb)
      BTN: $10.48 (104.8 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is UTG with T K A J
      Hero raises to $0.35, MP calls $0.35, CO calls $0.35, 2 folds, BB raises to $1.80, Hero calls $1.45, 2 folds

      Flop: ($4.35) 3 5 5 (2 players)
      BB bets $4.15, Hero folds

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      Is this the type of hand i can call with if i put the player on aces? Although this villain has a high 3 bet i think he does have aces here alot with him raising big against the callers. Say the ace was a queen instead that would make the call easier right?
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      Old 02-05-2012, 04:40 AM   #4434
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      Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

        Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11789232

        MP: $5.81 (116.2 bb)
        CO: $8.35 (167 bb)
        Hero (BTN): $7.52 (150.4 bb)
        SB: $5.04 (100.8 bb)
        BB: $12.50 (250 bb)
        UTG: $21.69 (433.8 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is BTN with 4 2 3 6
        3 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, SB raises to $0.50, BB folds, Hero calls $0.35

        Flop: ($1.05) 3 Q 4 (2 players)
        SB bets $1.01, Hero raises to $3.35, SB raises to $4.54 and is all-in, Hero calls $1.19




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        Villain was 14/11/7 over 50 hands(lol).
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        Old 02-05-2012, 10:35 PM   #4435
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        Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

        It's std I think but gambeling at best
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        Old 02-06-2012, 05:49 AM   #4436
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        Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

        Rate villain's play?

          Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
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          UTG: $16.64 (66.6 bb)
          MP: $12.23 (48.9 bb)
          Hero (CO): $25 (100 bb)
          BTN: $12.04 (48.2 bb)
          SB: $39.72 (158.9 bb)
          BB: $44.73 (178.9 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is CO with Q 4 J A
          UTG raises to $0.50, MP calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, BTN calls $0.50, SB calls $0.40, BB raises to $3.50, UTG calls $3, MP folds, Hero calls $3, 2 folds

          Flop: ($12) T Q 4 (3 players)
          BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $11.46, BB raises to $41.23 and is all-in, UTG folds, Hero calls $10.04 and is all-in

          Turn: ($55.00) 2 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
          River: ($55.00) 8 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

          Results: $55.00 pot ($2.00 rake)
          Final Board: T Q 4 2 8
          UTG mucked and lost (-$3.50 net)
          Hero showed Q 4 J A and won $53 ($28 net)
          BB showed A K K 6 and won $0.00 (-$25.00 net)



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          Old 02-06-2012, 05:15 PM   #4437
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          Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

          Not that bad although I would have bet/call instead of c/r unless you or UTG are too aggro.
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          Old 02-07-2012, 08:13 AM   #4438
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          Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

          Both villains are pretty big fishes, am I being too aggressive on the turn with this marginal hand? I really thought they had some kind of weak one pair or draw.

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          SB ($50)
          BB ($14)
          UTG ($30)
          UTG+1 ($73.40)
          Hero ($60.15)
          BTN ($27.45)

          Dealt to Hero 3 7 K A

          UTG calls $0.50, UTG+1 calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.50, BTN calls $2.50, fold, BB calls $2, UTG calls $2, UTG+1 calls $2

          FLOP ($12.75) Q A 3

          BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

          TURN ($12.75) Q A 3 4

          BB bets $0.50, UTG calls $0.50, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to $14.18, BTN folds, BB folds, UTG calls $13.68

          RIVER ($41.61) Q A 3 4 T

          UTG checks, Hero checks
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          Old 02-07-2012, 09:30 AM   #4439
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          Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

          i def bet flop.

          turn raise is too thin imo.
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          Old 02-07-2012, 09:34 AM   #4440
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          BB ($100)
          UTG ($43.80)
          UTG+1 ($150)
          CO ($108)
          Hero ($100)

          Dealt to Hero K Q 6 J

          fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $3, fold, BB raises to $9.50, Hero calls $6.50

          FLOP ($19.50) 8 9 6

          BB bets $17, Hero calls $17

          TURN ($53.50) 8 9 6 6

          BB bets $30, Hero ???

          i have 73.50 behind. 43.50 more.

          villain is new. only 13 hands in which he is 31/31 w 50% 3bet. seems reggish but super small sample obv.
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