Was flop played ok? didn't want to bet and get raised so went for a check call line. At this time i thought he had a set or 2 pair at least so some of my outs are taken so is the turn a fold or not?
Hand 2
Same again with this player no reads and only 15 hands or so on him but he had been playing fairly tight.
Thought that this villain was 3 betting alot from the blinds so decided to call with my hand been fairly strong. Happy with shove on flop? wasnt sure whether this was played ok or not.
I'm not sure what to do but c/c'ing the bare nfd oop vs a near psb doesn't seem great to me (unless more people come along), I think I would've cb but I'm a cb monkey & a plo noob so take that fwiw!
Hand 2
I was thinking about going for a crai vs his stack size cause the spr would be so low if he bet.
If we put him on AAxx we get 47% eq:
I don't know if that's enough though as I said I'm new to the game myself, that's got me wondering what sort of calcs are we doing to work out if our draw is strong enough to crai?
I'm also unsure of the flat oop, seems like we'd want a better connected hand before we start flatting big 3bets oop.
As played standard, pick up a tonne of eq on the turn, hit our hand otr, spr dictates that we gotta jam, so we do!
Hands we beat that he could've played this way: Hmm, paranoid AQ/KK/AA? Badly played QQ?
Hand 3
I'm genuinely unsure, his barreling tendencies would help. The thing about getting it in otf is we've got no re draws & if he's ever got AA we're destroyed. If you had a decent flush draw I think you're hand would be a lot better cause we're mostly getting it in against AAxx & decent draws, so if we had a Q+ fd we haz our re draw vs AA & we can dominate his combo draws sometimes too.
That leaves calling or folding, there's a lot of bad turns but depending on his barreling tendencies we can call flop & fold turn, like if his flop cb is high & turn cb low, we can confidently fold turn. If his flop+turn cb are both then I think it depends on how much you like/dislike variance?
Honestly this is an exact spot I could see myself posting here, I think call flop, fold turn is ok as most people aren't gonna be going too crazy in 3bet pots. Folding flop just seems too weak!
Sorry bout the lengthy posts, just started taking Omaha seriously & wanna make sure I didn't leave anything out!
Villain was 86/60 over 51 hands at the time with a 61% cb over 18 hands.
I debated 3betting pre but was unsure as the 2 was really messing with my hand, but seeing as he was a maniac & I have nfd & straight potential both ways I think I can 3b, would you go down as low as medium QQ like QQ65 single sooted?
I think this is a standard get it in once the Q falls ott. I sized it so small on the flop to keep in small pairs, 8x & any other crap he wants to call with.
I'm beaten by Qx and that's like the only hand he could play this way I think, maybe 88 too, being tarpy about it too. Once the turn falls fish don't like to fold cause they haz full house so I bet to get it in (I should've potted it)
So, I think it's standard, but need to check to make sure I'm not missing anything cause I'm a lolmaha noob!
I'm not sure what to do but c/c'ing the bare nfd oop vs a near psb doesn't seem great to me (unless more people come along), I think I would've cb but I'm a cb monkey & a plo noob so take that fwiw!
Hand 2
I was thinking about going for a crai vs his stack size cause the spr would be so low if he bet.
If we put him on AAxx we get 47% eq:
I don't know if that's enough though as I said I'm new to the game myself, that's got me wondering what sort of calcs are we doing to work out if our draw is strong enough to crai?
I'm also unsure of the flat oop, seems like we'd want a better connected hand before we start flatting big 3bets oop.
As played standard, pick up a tonne of eq on the turn, hit our hand otr, spr dictates that we gotta jam, so we do!
Hands we beat that he could've played this way: Hmm, paranoid AQ/KK/AA? Badly played QQ?
Hand 3
I'm genuinely unsure, his barreling tendencies would help. The thing about getting it in otf is we've got no re draws & if he's ever got AA we're destroyed. If you had a decent flush draw I think you're hand would be a lot better cause we're mostly getting it in against AAxx & decent draws, so if we had a Q+ fd we haz our re draw vs AA & we can dominate his combo draws sometimes too.
That leaves calling or folding, there's a lot of bad turns but depending on his barreling tendencies we can call flop & fold turn, like if his flop cb is high & turn cb low, we can confidently fold turn. If his flop+turn cb are both then I think it depends on how much you like/dislike variance?
Honestly this is an exact spot I could see myself posting here, I think call flop, fold turn is ok as most people aren't gonna be going too crazy in 3bet pots. Folding flop just seems too weak!
Sorry bout the lengthy posts, just started taking Omaha seriously & wanna make sure I didn't leave anything out!
No problem thanks for the reply, with hand 1 if i cbet i have to fold to a re raise thats why i took this line but not sure if im correct or not, if it was a heads up pot i would of cbet.
With hand 2 i went for the check raise but still unsure which is right play here as im getting it in against aces whether i lead or not and with me leading out if may give me fold equity against over types of hands he may have 3 bet.
Hand 3 is the one type of flop where i really dont no which is the best play as i no he is 3 betting wide enough in the blinds for me to have the best hand here. In this hand he tank shoved a pair plus queen high flushdraw so in this particular situation i was right but maybe i should be calling flop folding turn untill i pick up more reads. I think ill post this hand in the main section as id like more feedback on this one.
Was flop played ok? didn't want to bet and get raised so went for a check call line. At this time i thought he had a set or 2 pair at least so some of my outs are taken so is the turn a fold or not?
Hand 2
Same again with this player no reads and only 15 hands or so on him but he had been playing fairly tight.
Thought that this villain was 3 betting alot from the blinds so decided to call with my hand been fairly strong. Happy with shove on flop? wasnt sure whether this was played ok or not.
all perfect imo
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Also is leading the best play on this flop? (hand2)
I like c/r and get it in better than leading. If we lead and he raises we get worse odds on getting it in, but can't really fold either. Also more for us if he folds to our c/r than to our lead.
Hand 3 type spots are pretty common and iffy, but vs. described villain we just gotta get it in and not kick ourself too hard if he happens to have aces. He probably cbets that flop 100%.
this is def a 3bet vs. a 60% pfr. You want him heads up to yourself and your hand's one of the better AKKx. (vs. this villain 3bet even if it's rainbow)
Post flop's wp
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would you go down as low as medium QQ like QQ65 single sooted?
Yeah, u wanna isolate him a bunch. QQ65ss+, JJ89ss+ etc. not mandatory but not bad 3bets imo.
Hand 1:
Villain is 53/0 over ~30 hands. This is a pretty basic question but I think it's a cb rather than a check back cause of FE (cause his range is so wide) & we have plenty of PE & implied odds when we flush over flush him. Also since he's so passive he won't be c/r anything but the nuts (which is great for us in terms of implied odds & we won't get bombed off the nfd a lot)
Am I considering the right factors here when deciding to cb? Is there any hard & fast rules regarding cbetting vs checking it back. We'd opt to check it back if we have a mid equity hand & expect villain to c/r often?
Coming from a hold em background where cbetting is a lot more common just wanna make sure I'm doing it right!
Villain in the SB is 43/22 over 50 hands. BB is 50/0 over 6 hands.
I don't think my equity changes that much weather I have the 8 or not based on some calcs.
I'm thinking vs either of these guys a call vs a crai with QQxxdd would be fine? As I could have their draws dominated sometimes & they could be c/r pretty wide given their stats & stack sizes, whadya think?
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