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10-23-2009 , 03:57 AM
villain is unknown . standard? utg was 41/2
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PL Omaha $1(BB) Full Tilt
SB ($80.75)
BB ($99.50)
UTG ($59.40)
Hero ($100)
CO ($99.50)
BTN ($146)

Dealt to Hero 4 5 K K

UTG raises to $3.50, Hero calls $3.50, CO calls $3.50, fold, fold, fold

FLOP ($12) 3 T 6

UTG checks, Hero bets $9, CO calls $9, UTG folds

TURN ($30) 3 T 6 Q

Hero bets $25, CO raises to $87 (AI), Hero calls $62

Last edited by zolih; 10-23-2009 at 04:16 AM.
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10-23-2009 , 04:20 AM
Once you bet the turn, you cant fold, so yeah, standard!
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10-23-2009 , 04:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurious
Once you bet the turn..
c/c or c/r would be better?
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10-23-2009 , 04:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by zolih
c/c or c/r would be better?
I would bet again.
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10-23-2009 , 04:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jwc529
Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi $0.10 Ante - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: $265.35
MP: $197.00
Hero (CO): $170.95
BTN: $125.45
SB: $102.00
BB: $179.40

Pre Flop: ($1.35) Hero is CO with 8 7 6 9
UTG raises to $2.35, 1 fold, Hero raises to $8.40, 3 folds, UTG calls $6.05

Flop: ($18.15) 9 T 7 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($18.15) 5 (2 players)
UTG bets $15.50, Hero calls $15.50

River: ($49.15) T (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

Final Pot: $49.15
UTG shows T 8 K A (three of a kind, Tens)
Hero shows 8 7 6 9 (a straight, Ten high)
Hero wins $46.70
(Rake: $2.45)
villain is pretty aggro, I didn't value bet the river since I thought he had J8 with his check but thought he would barrel something without much showdown and was planning on calling since my hand looks weak
I like your line, when the Ten paired on the river and if Villain had barrelled at this spot I would have found it very difficult to call as most likely he had filled up. How aggro was Villain? Is he one of the plo50 regs?
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10-23-2009 , 04:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurious
I would bet again.
ok thx,
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10-23-2009 , 05:19 AM
Do I have enough equity 3-ways even with the 6 dangler? UTG is 62/24, CO is 48/18.

Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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CO: $44.87
BTN: $15.66
SB: $26.52
Hero (BB): $25.00
UTG: $33.17
MP: $27.04

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with 6 Q J T
UTG raises to $0.85, 1 fold, CO raises to $2.90, 2 folds, Hero calls $2.65, UTG raises to $11.70, CO raises to $38.10, Hero calls $22.10 all in, UTG calls $21.47 all in
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10-23-2009 , 05:33 AM
I think you have, since they both will have AAxx and some other crap.

You got 33% EV for sure.
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10-23-2009 , 06:12 AM
-utg1 is 70/20/1.1 30 he never folds. 3-4hands ago he just called down with 2ndstr8 +nfd. so i was 99% sure he has 89** here.
-co, bb 60/10/1 ~200 hands . extreml loosepassiv both of them . my image is around 23/18 .


-soo missed flop cbet is a leak? I almost instacbetted this but then changed my mind. I mean multiple draw but non of the nuts and I get at least 2calls on this board so I will be lost on many turn card.
-on turn its ok not to push, just because leaving money behind for implied and for better instaodds(and fold on unimproved turn)? I have 11 nut outs or ~21totalouts.and he has 89** so I dont afraid of being dominated. in this case I have 40-42%.


$0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
FullTiltPoker
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
Hero (UTG) ($109.60)
UTG+1 ($101.20)
CO ($100)
BTN ($127.35)
SB ($100)
BB ($143.30)

Pre-Flop: ($2.50, 6 players) Hero is UTG A 8 Q J
[CO posts $1]
Hero raises to $4, UTG+1 calls $4, CO calls $3, 2 folds, BB calls $3

Flop: 6 J 10 ($16.50, 4 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, CO checks

Turn: 7 ($16.50, 4 players)
BB bets $9, Hero calls $9, UTG+1 raises to $52.50, 1 fold, BB folds, Hero calls $43.50

Last edited by zolih; 10-23-2009 at 06:18 AM.
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10-23-2009 , 07:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurious
I think you have, since they both will have AAxx and some other crap.

You got 33% EV for sure.
with both fd dominated u got like 25%
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10-23-2009 , 08:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by realmaniac
with both fd dominated u got like 25%
worst case scenario
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10-23-2009 , 12:51 PM
Standard or spew? Anyone play these hands differently?


#1 Villain is 35/21/2 (120 hands)

Full Tilt Poker $50.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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SB: $65.25
BB: $54.90
Hero (UTG): $58.70
MP: $123.00
CO: $72.60
BTN: $22.20

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is UTG with 9 8 9 7
Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, CO raises to $3.75, 3 folds, Hero calls $2.75

Flop: ($8.25) 2 8 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $6.50, Hero raises to $27.75, CO raises to $68.85, Hero calls $27.20 all in


#2 Villain is 26/14/3.5 (380 hands)

Full Tilt Poker $50.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
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UTG: $62.35
CO: $35.85
Hero (BTN): $56.85
SB: $123.15
BB: $148.05

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with A Q Q 6
2 folds, Hero raises to $1.75, SB calls $1.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($4.00) T 7 Q (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3.00, SB raises to $11.50, Hero calls $8.50

Turn: ($27.00) 5 (2 players)
SB bets $16.50, Hero raises to $43.60, SB calls $27.10


#3 Villain is 45/22/2 (800 hands)

Full Tilt Poker $50.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
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BB: $19.50
UTG: $53.10
CO: $94.45
BTN: $66.75
Hero (SB): $50.00

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with T 9 K A
UTG raises to $1.75, 1 fold, BTN calls $1.75, Hero raises to $7.50, 2 folds, BTN calls $5.75

Flop: ($17.25) 7 8 Q (2 players)
Hero bets $17.25, BTN raises to $59.25, Hero calls $25.25 all in
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10-23-2009 , 12:54 PM
Hand #1
IPoker Network $50.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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SB: $41.42
BB: $117.39
UTG: $49.00
Hero (MP): $76.81
CO: $64.64
BTN: $52.26

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is MP with 9 7 K A
1 fold, Hero raises to $1.75, CO calls $1.75, 1 fold, SB calls $1.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($5.75) 5 K T (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $4.50, CO raises to $13, SB folds, Hero raises to $44.75, CO raises to $62.89, Hero calls $18.14

Turn: ($131.53) Q (2 players)

River: ($131.53) Q (2 players)

Hand #2
IPoker Network $50.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
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CO: $81.19
BTN: $72.60
SB: $50.00
BB: $55.93
Hero (UTG): $48.25

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is UTG with 6 A A J
Hero raises to $1.75, 3 folds, BB raises to $5.50, Hero raises to $16.75, BB calls $11.25

Flop: ($33.75) 7 5 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $31.50, BB calls $31.50

Turn: ($96.75) Q (2 players)

River: ($96.75) 3 (2 players)



standard stackoffs? Both villains are weak 45/30 players who get it in pretty light
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10-23-2009 , 03:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by shoobri
Standard or spew? Anyone play these hands differently?


#1 Villain is 35/21/2 (120 hands)

Full Tilt Poker $50.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

SB: $65.25
BB: $54.90
Hero (UTG): $58.70
MP: $123.00
CO: $72.60
BTN: $22.20

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is UTG with 9 8 9 7
Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, CO raises to $3.75, 3 folds, Hero calls $2.75

Flop: ($8.25) 2 8 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $6.50, Hero raises to $27.75, CO raises to $68.85, Hero calls $27.20 all in


#2 Villain is 26/14/3.5 (380 hands)

Full Tilt Poker $50.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: $62.35
CO: $35.85
Hero (BTN): $56.85
SB: $123.15
BB: $148.05

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with A Q Q 6
2 folds, Hero raises to $1.75, SB calls $1.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($4.00) T 7 Q (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3.00, SB raises to $11.50, Hero calls $8.50

Turn: ($27.00) 5 (2 players)
SB bets $16.50, Hero raises to $43.60, SB calls $27.10


#3 Villain is 45/22/2 (800 hands)

Full Tilt Poker $50.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
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BB: $19.50
UTG: $53.10
CO: $94.45
BTN: $66.75
Hero (SB): $50.00

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with T 9 K A
UTG raises to $1.75, 1 fold, BTN calls $1.75, Hero raises to $7.50, 2 folds, BTN calls $5.75

Flop: ($17.25) 7 8 Q (2 players)
Hero bets $17.25, BTN raises to $59.25, Hero calls $25.25 all in
nothing spewy although you don't have to 3bet the last one
the 2nd one I'd put in another raise with QQ on flop
and the 1st I'd consider leading depending on how often he 3bets/cbets
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10-23-2009 , 04:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sepster
Do I have enough equity 3-ways even with the 6 dangler? UTG is 62/24, CO is 48/18.

Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

CO: $44.87
BTN: $15.66
SB: $26.52
Hero (BB): $25.00
UTG: $33.17
MP: $27.04

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with 6 Q J T
UTG raises to $0.85, 1 fold, CO raises to $2.90, 2 folds, Hero calls $2.65, UTG raises to $11.70, CO raises to $38.10, Hero calls $22.10 all in, UTG calls $21.47 all in
fold pre to the 3bet
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10-23-2009 , 05:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by shoobri
Standard or spew? Anyone play these hands differently?


#1 Villain is 35/21/2 (120 hands)

Full Tilt Poker $50.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

SB: $65.25
BB: $54.90
Hero (UTG): $58.70
MP: $123.00
CO: $72.60
BTN: $22.20

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is UTG with 9 8 9 7
Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, CO raises to $3.75, 3 folds, Hero calls $2.75

Flop: ($8.25) 2 8 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $6.50, Hero raises to $27.75, CO raises to $68.85, Hero calls $27.20 all in


#2 Villain is 26/14/3.5 (380 hands)

Full Tilt Poker $50.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: $62.35
CO: $35.85
Hero (BTN): $56.85
SB: $123.15
BB: $148.05

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with A Q Q 6
2 folds, Hero raises to $1.75, SB calls $1.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($4.00) T 7 Q (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3.00, SB raises to $11.50, Hero calls $8.50

Turn: ($27.00) 5 (2 players)
SB bets $16.50, Hero raises to $43.60, SB calls $27.10


#3 Villain is 45/22/2 (800 hands)

Full Tilt Poker $50.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: $19.50
UTG: $53.10
CO: $94.45
BTN: $66.75
Hero (SB): $50.00

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with T 9 K A
UTG raises to $1.75, 1 fold, BTN calls $1.75, Hero raises to $7.50, 2 folds, BTN calls $5.75

Flop: ($17.25) 7 8 Q (2 players)
Hero bets $17.25, BTN raises to $59.25, Hero calls $25.25 all in
Nowhere near spew, all totally standard. I think you should full pot it with QQ on the turn, it doesn't look like he's folding, and you are, off the top of my head, probably 65% on the turn against big wraps + nfd.
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10-23-2009 , 06:37 PM
standard?

Poker Stars $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
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BTN/SB: $344.80
Hero (BB): $541.20

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BB with 8 9 J A
BTN/SB raises to $6, Hero raises to $18, BTN/SB calls $12

Flop: ($36.00) 4 2 T (2 players)
Hero bets $20, BTN/SB calls $20

Turn: ($76.00) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $60, BTN/SB raises to $255.50, Hero raises to $503.20 all in, BTN/SB calls $51.30 all in
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10-23-2009 , 08:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2+2=5
standard?

Poker Stars $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN/SB: $344.80
Hero (BB): $541.20

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BB with 8 9 J A
BTN/SB raises to $6, Hero raises to $18, BTN/SB calls $12

Flop: ($36.00) 4 2 T (2 players)
Hero bets $20, BTN/SB calls $20

Turn: ($76.00) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $60, BTN/SB raises to $255.50, Hero raises to $503.20 all in, BTN/SB calls $51.30 all in
ya. i mean i guess u could also flat the turn and c/f blank rivers lol
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10-23-2009 , 08:42 PM
thx... i'm posting every standard hand i lose, it's just feels better when someone sais it's ok played.
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10-23-2009 , 10:19 PM
Standard? Raiser is 70/12 or some such.

IPoker Network $200.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
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UTG: $215.30
CO: $433.69
BTN: $197.70
Hero (SB): $200.00
BB: $167.72

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is SB with 8 8 5 9
1 fold, CO calls $2, BTN calls $2, Hero calls $1, BB checks

Flop: ($8.00) 8 4 9 (4 players)
Hero bets $8.00, BB calls $8, CO folds, BTN folds

Turn: ($24.00) A (2 players)
Hero bets $19.00, BB raises to $81, Hero raises to $190, BB calls $76.72 all in

River: ($339.44) 5 (2 players - 1 is all in)
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10-23-2009 , 10:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TianYuan
Standard? Raiser is 70/12 or some such.

IPoker Network $200.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: $215.30
CO: $433.69
BTN: $197.70
Hero (SB): $200.00
BB: $167.72

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is SB with 8 8 5 9
1 fold, CO calls $2, BTN calls $2, Hero calls $1, BB checks

Flop: ($8.00) 8 4 9 (4 players)
Hero bets $8.00, BB calls $8, CO folds, BTN folds

Turn: ($24.00) A (2 players)
Hero bets $19.00, BB raises to $81, Hero raises to $190, BB calls $76.72 all in

River: ($339.44) 5 (2 players - 1 is all in)
yes.
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10-23-2009 , 11:03 PM
Cheers, he had AA** ldo.
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10-23-2009 , 11:18 PM
villian unknown

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
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BTN/SB: $90.50
Hero (BB): $110.90

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with 8 J 8 J
BTN/SB raises to $3, Hero raises to $9, BTN/SB calls $6

Flop: ($18.00) K 9 A (2 players)
Hero bets $13, BTN/SB calls $13

Turn: ($44.00) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $43.50, BTN/SB raises to $68.50 all in, Hero calls $25
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10-24-2009 , 11:54 AM
2+2=5: i wouldnt bet the turn once he calls you on that flop, unless maybe if you have been 3betting him a lot. but even then its probably not a good idea. so i just give up there. maybe bet a bit more on the flop, closer to $16.

edit: oh i missed its hu...obv. makes it closer, but still c/f turn without reads imo.


i have one too. villian is a 83/20 friday night donk, a huge station. not really aggro, but sometimes does weird stuff.
need comments on turn and river, im often uncertain about betsizing with those stacksizes.

IPoker Network $50.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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UTG: $9.50
MP: $123.35
CO: $50.39
Hero (BTN): $80.46
SB: $50.00
BB: $10.00

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with Q 2 Q 2
1 fold, MP calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.25, SB calls $2, 1 fold, MP calls $1.75

Flop: ($7.25) 3 6 6 (3 players)
SB checks, MP bets $3.62, Hero calls $3.62, SB folds

Turn: ($14.49) 2 (2 players)
MP bets $7.24, Hero raises to $19, MP calls $11.76

River: ($52.49) J (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $31.00

Last edited by jumpoff; 10-24-2009 at 12:03 PM.
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10-24-2009 , 12:42 PM
Fullpot on the turn, you gotta protect.
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