Both villains relatively unknown.
MP is 30/10/0/AF 2.5 through just 10 hands
BB is 18/12/0/AF 6.0 through 36 hands

Anything to do differently?

I'd prob c/c on the turn rather than bet it. Just put him all in on the river.

Zoom. Didn't have many hands on villain, but his stats seemed passive. Pot raise when deep and in position is often indicative of underboat in my experience. I played it fine, right?

easy fold pre

What to do in this spot? Not to worried about the 3better ofc who was also on tilt but 300BB deep with the worst possible aces is not a really nice spot?


888 Poker - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 98.5 BB (VPIP: 23.73, PFR: 10.17, 3Bet Preflop: 6.90, Hands: 60)
SB: 511.8 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 17.14, 3Bet Preflop: 4.17, Hands: 140)
BB: 171.5 BB (VPIP: 57.80, PFR: 35.84, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 176)
UTG: 364 BB (VPIP: 29.34, PFR: 13.27, 3Bet Preflop: 4.61, Hands: 397)
MP: 114.2 BB (VPIP: 28.35, PFR: 18.11, 3Bet Preflop: 9.26, Hands: 127)
Hero (CO): 305 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A 6 2 A

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.8 BB, BTN raises to 9.9 BB, SB raises to 33.5 BB, Hero?

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raise pot

How about clicking it back, so that it if BTN sticks it in we can raise again if SB just calls?

As a relative novice, this is a spot I'm a little unsure about - this is a decent hand, but I feel like getting into a 3b pot here (especially if it ends up being multiway) is a tough spot and I just opted for a fold. Standard? Nitty?


Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.25 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 132.28 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 15.08, 3Bet Preflop: 3.39, Hands: 129)
Hero (UTG): 156.08 BB
CO: 69.96 BB (VPIP: 71.95, PFR: 7.32, 3Bet Preflop: 2.08, Hands: 85)
BTN: 139.44 BB (VPIP: 60.86, PFR: 26.25, 3Bet Preflop: 10.82, Hands: 428)
SB: 84.16 BB (VPIP: 21.58, PFR: 8.63, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 141)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has T 9 9 8

Hero raises to 3.4 BB, CO calls 3.4 BB, BTN calls 3.4 BB, SB raises to 18 BB, fold, fold, fold, BTN calls 14.6 BB

I was hoping that someone who is a better player than I would respond, because it's quite an interesting situation.

The problem is, if it goes HU the pocket 9's hurt our hand and we possibly don't hit enough flops, and thus x/f too much. If it goes multi-way there aren't a lot of flops where we'd be super happy about getting it in, and will often find our flush draw is no good, wrong end of wrap, etc.

It feels like calling pre here gets us into so many situations that are going to be -EV :

Going HU to the flop with SB : He has no 3bets in 140 hands. He probably has AA, and will be willing to commit on almost every flop with 66BB left in his stack and ~44BB in the pot. (This is not a very likely scenario given that CO/BTN are so loose, but certainly worth consideration)

Going 3 way to the flop with BTN : Again, SB will likely Pot/GII on flop, and we don't get to see our deeper stacked opponent act before us. We risk more getting all in against SB to win a similar amount, because our relative position is poor.

Going 3 way to the flop with CO : Ridiculously short effective stacks against AA again. Pretty similar to the HU scenario, just our odds are better.

Getting blasted out of the pot : CO/BTN decides to 4bet and we can't call against their likely better pocket pair.

The only definitely +EV scenario I see is going 4 way. It's possible, but nowhere near likely enough compared to the other options to make it worthwhile.

Overall, I'd consider this a close fold. Nowhere near nitty, just sucks to be facing 2 shorter stacks.

Yeah, with CO/BTN being quite loose and probably not so good postflop and SB being tight/passive and probably not so good postflop, I wouldn't really entertain folding there. Only thing that might lead to that is if BTN has been throwing stacks around and will 4-bet like double-digit %s.

Still trying to get a good grasp on what my call/fold range is on 3bets in pos, this hand came up earlier tonight. We're new to the table and don't have any sort of info on villain.

Table and Position ReviewWinning Poker Network Game #638907629: Pot Limit Omaha ($0.10/$0.25) [ 2016/05/13 23:53:34 UTC ]
Table: Tin (Short, PRR)
Seats: 6
Seat 1: n1cky ($81.06)
Seat 2: ushallnotraise ($13.82)
Seat 5: BethPlease33 ($20.84)
Seat 6: mikeypro3 ($12.39)
Button is seat 2

*** Blinds ***
BethPlease33: posts small blind $0.10
mikeypro3: posts big blind $0.25

*** Preflop ***
*** HOLE CARDS ***
ushallnotraise: dealt [ Ts Kd: Jh: 6h: ]
n1cky: folds
ushallnotraise: raises $0.85
BethPlease33: raises $2.70
mikeypro3: folds
ushallnotraise: calls $1.95
*** FLOP *** [ Kc: Td 3c: ]
BethPlease33: bets $5.56
ushallnotraise: raises all-in $11.02
BethPlease33: calls $5.46
*** TURN *** [ Kc: Td 3c: ] [ 3d: ]
*** RIVER *** [ Kc: Td 3c: ] [ 3d: ] [ 8s: ]
*** SUMMARY ***
Pot: $26.50 | Rake: $1.15 | BBJ: $0.24 |
Board: [ Kc: Td 3c: 3d: 8s: ]
Seat 1: n1cky didn't bet
Seat 2: ushallnotraise won $26.50 (+$12.68) [ Ts Kd: Jh: 6h: ] Two Pair, Kings and Tens
Seat 5: BethPlease33 lost -$13.82 [ 9d: 7s: Js: Qd: ] One Pair, Threes
Seat 6: mikeypro3 lost -$0.25

^Standard hand, wp






I would guess folding here is very bad from theory/GTO perspective whatnot. But if a 90bb stack insta x/pots are we really ever good? Very tempted to fold

From GTO perspective obviously you cant fold. But I mean yeah, if you know ur beat here then you gotta do what you gotta do.

I think it's a fine fold. That we're playing the spot unbalanced is probably fine since villain is likely to be even more unbalanced than we become by folding.

In other words: We're exploitably folding but villain's raising range is likely even more exploitably unbalanced, so we still win yo. Well, not the hand, but we win. We win...

you would have to be a real sicko to try to run a c/r bluff in the first place. reminds me of this guy i sat beside playing live plo once who bet the river hoping to get minraised so he could jam for like 2.5 or 3x the minraise. and his plan worked too. i mean that is a whole 'nother level of evil genius ****.

PokerStars - $0.25 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 161.08 BB (VPIP: 23.75, PFR: 20.16, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 650)
BB: 102.6 BB (VPIP: 39.74, PFR: 21.79, 3Bet Preflop: 3.08, Hands: 163)
Hero (BTN): 129.8 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K J Q Q

Hero raises to 2.4 BB, SB raises to 8.2 BB, fold, Hero calls 5.8 BB

Flop: (17.4 BB, 2 players) K 2 5
SB bets 12 BB, Hero calls 12 BB

Turn: (41.4 BB, 2 players) 4
SB bets 28.52 BB, Hero calls 28.52 BB

River: (98.44 BB, 2 players) Q
SB bets 94.44 BB, Hero calls 81.08 BB and is all-in


ez fold ott? as played call river?

^ i might fold the turn. as played have to call the river, he just shouldn't have that many 63/A3/KK

Standard? Does an average sb defender have many big pairs to call down with?

He raised and 3betted alot the few hands we played before this (I think there was more than 3 dont know why it says only 3 hands), I can never fold this right?

Boss $100.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN/SB): $199.36 - VPIP: 30, PFR: 23, 3B: 7, AF: 6,0, Hands: 829
Player3 (BB): $66.36 - VPIP: 67, PFR: 67, 3B: 100, AF: 0,0, Hands: 3

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN/SB with K Q A 7
Hero raises to $3, Player3 raises to $9, Hero raises to $27, Player3 calls $18

Flop: ($54.00) 9 6 J (2 players)
Player3 bets $39.36, Hero calls $39.36

Turn: ($132.72) 7 (2 players)

River: ($132.72) 8 (2 players)

well acually I need 30% and if we take this hands it's close:

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board: 96j

Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
KhQhAs7s	29.89%	176,562	5,521
x*cx*c,6,9,j,jj,99,66,j6,69,j9,TQK,TQ8,78T:25%	70.11%	417,917	5,521

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board: J96

Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
AsKhQh7s	23.22%	123,754	31,088
15%cc,78,T8,TQ,J,9,6,7T,KT,Q8,57)	76.78%	445,158	31,088

No idea how wide he 3bets but i'd say 15% is more reasonable than 25% for most opponents.
BTW your syntax is wrong, it needs parenthesis like this: (x*cx*c,6,9,j,jj,99,66,j6,69,j9,TQK,TQ8,78T):25%

Ohh, thanks

meh I'd probably fold on the flop, all you have is a gutty

Live PLO, I would ignore the dollar amounts as essentially the game plays like .10/.25 online (just with more money...) V1 in this hand is live NLH player who is playing his button and getting up after this hand to play 10-25 (uncapped) NLH. V2 will gamble when short and would raise GII with any top 25% hand to a BTN raise.
V3 is a nut hunting live nit (I'm a not so this is saying something).
Hero straddle (2500)
5-5-10
V1 BTN(2100)
V2 SB(375)
V3 MP(1500)
Folds to MP who limps 10, V1 raises to 50, V2 re-raises to 175, Hero re-raises to 590, V3 folds, V1 calls, v2 calls AI, Hero holds

A K Q J

Flop: 2 3 6

Is c/f too weak here? Or correct? do we bet/GII ?
this really shouldn't his either of us though obviously it hits v1 harder than me. The side pot has only 500 in it so really not getting the odds to stack off multi-way while we do have the odds if we were h/u...looking at the numbers it seems that c/f is best, any input would be great. Less FE than I originally thought as well

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