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[pkrtxs]

fold is retarded

[chinz]

Originally Posted by lordhonse

co has QQ 80%+ right?

No.

or is a fold just retarded :P

Yes.

[napsus]

yup call and play poker

[lordhonse]

Originally Posted by napsus

yup call and play poker

whats the advantage of call vs ship? 200 in the pot and 110 left then
think our call looks even stronger than if we just ship?!
or is there turncard/action you then consider to do something other than calling/ship? thx

[KrachBummEnte]

Villain lost around 2 stacks pretty fast already. 95/94, 22.2% 3bet, small sample. Stabs frequently, 4bet pre once, cbet pot and folded to a shove with 100bb startstacks, c/r'ed turned before and folded to a shove. Minraised AA2 in a 4bet pot and folded to very small 3bet.

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Hero ($147)

Dealt to Hero 7 5 9 8

Hero raises to $1.50, calls $1

FLOP ($3) 2 9 9

checks, Hero bets $2.10, calls $2.10

TURN ($7.20) 2 9 9 J

checks, Hero bets $5.10, calls $5.10

RIVER ($17.40) 2 9 9 J 6

bets $16.90, Hero ???

River bet is pot, rake hasn't been deducted by HM

[korova]

I doubt he is the type of player to turn any weakish SD hands he gets to the river with into bluffs, so i think you can fold.

Is this too spewy? Xback and play a turn? UTG is 83/55, SB is 62/38.

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UTG ($333)
UTG+1 ($200)
Hero ($200)
BTN ($100)

Dealt to Hero 8 J K 7

UTG raises to $6, fold, Hero raises to $21, fold, SB calls $20, fold, UTG calls $15

FLOP ($65) 9 K 4

SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $63, SB raises to $175 (AI), UTG folds, Hero calls $112

[korova]

I feel like i need a better line here but dont know what i can really do differently, fold turn? Call River? Villain is 62/38 pretty passive post.
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CO ($302)
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Dealt to Hero 4 4 T T

fold, BTN raises to $7, fold, Hero raises to $22, BTN calls $15

FLOP ($45) 6 A 8

Hero bets $24, BTN calls $24

TURN ($93) 6 A 8 4

Hero checks, BTN bets $54, Hero calls $54

RIVER ($201) 6 A 8 4 9

Hero checks, BTN bets $178 (AI), Hero folds

BTN wins $200

[Dap Dippin]

^I would bet more on the flop and take it from there.

As played T=turn is whatever. I would probably just fold, mostly because when you boat up I dont think its often you get paid on the river, and its gonna be a scheisty boat.

River is a no brainer.

[napsus]

let's assume an aggro reg fish, who is not overly spewy. no betsizing tells

do you open this hand pre vs nitty button? loose button?
flop float ok? anyone like a raise on the flop?

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UTG: $120.05 (240.1 bb)
MP: $229.35 (458.7 bb)
Hero (CO): $260.05 (520.1 bb)
BTN: $106.85 (213.7 bb)
SB: $81.70 (163.4 bb)
BB: $86.10 (172.2 bb)

Preflop: ($0.60) Hero is CO with T J A 7
2 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, BTN folds, SB raises to $5.60, BB folds, Hero calls $4.10

Flop: ($12.30) 9 8 5 (2 players)
SB bets $10.75, Hero calls $10.75

Turn: ($33.80) 2 (2 players)
SB bets $32.15 Hero

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[jacktensuited13]

Perfect imo napsus, unless the turn completely blanks out most hands won't continue that arent really nutty. Raising isn't bad if hes b/fing all overpairs and will barrel turns but usually raising gets it in pretty bad against a good range on the flop.

[Qwazi]

No real reads on the table yet other than UTG is pretty fishy, making tiny bets every street with top pair no kicker in a weird spot a few hands prior.

With all the blockers to better full houses can I call? Do 25plo players (villain seems like a reg) bluff (POT???) raise here much at all?

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SB: $28.95 (115.8 bb)
Hero (BB): $35.36 (141.4 bb)
UTG: $20.53 (82.1 bb)
MP: $14 (56 bb)
CO: $35.45 (141.8 bb)
BTN: $26.25 (105 bb)

Preflop: ($0.10) Hero is BB with 2 J 6 9
MP posts BB OOP, UTG calls $0.25, MP checks, CO calls $0.25, BTN folds, SB completes, Hero checks

Flop: ($1.35) 2 9 3 (5 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets $1.25, MP folds, CO calls $1.25, SB folds, Hero calls $1.25

Turn: ($5.10) 2 (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $1.50, CO calls $1.50, Hero calls $1.50

River: ($9.60) 6 (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $2.75, CO raises to $17.39, Hero calls $17.39, UTG folds

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[napsus]

2 spots, do we continue with our hands?

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SB antes $0.10
BB antes $0.10
UTG antes $0.10
Hero antes $0.10
CO antes $0.10
BTN antes $0.10

Dealt to Hero K Q A 5

fold, Hero raises to $2, CO calls $2, BTN calls $2, SB calls $1.75, fold

FLOP ($9.10) 2 5 Q

SB bets $6, Hero calls?



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UTG+1 antes $0.10
CO antes $0.10
Hero antes $0.10
SB antes $0.10
BB antes $0.10
UTG antes $0.10

Dealt to Hero J A J 2

UTG raises to $2.35, UTG+1 calls $2.35, fold, Hero calls $2.35, SB raises to $12.85, fold, UTG calls $10.50, UTG+1 calls $10.50, Hero calls ?

[xaxa]

reads needed in #1 imo. how often does he donk? does he donk draws/made hands/ air?
it's a call in most cases since u really dont to get reraised.

#2
pretty deep in position = call. plays pretty easy postflop

[Bullten74]

@Qwazi

I check fold flop
Consider raising Turn smallish.
As played I dno but it looks ugly, think you have to fold.

[TheMagnet]

35/15 with 3 flop agg.

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BB: $32.75 (32.8 bb)
BTN: $148.15 (148.2 bb)
Hero (SB): $100 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9 T 8 8
BTN raises to $3.50, Hero raises to $11.50, BB folds, BTN calls $8

Flop: ($24) Q 4 K (2 players)
Hero bets $17.25, BTN raises to $74.75, Hero folds

Results: $58.50 pot ($1 rake)
Final Board: Q 4 K
BTN mucked and won $57.50 ($28.75 net)
Hero mucked 9 T 8 8 and lost (-$28.75 net)

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