I think it's quite close. Villains will differ with how they play clubs. The standard tag will often shove decent-good clubs and fold weak ones. More passive villains will probably call all clubs. Stacks are slightly short to start the hand and villain has like 61.5 now, basically one psb left. We improved, block some straights, I think there is a decent argument for continuing, shoving or c/ shove, with my preference toward the former.

Marked hands from yesterdays session.

Hand 1:

Villain is 46/31, 11.8 agg factor over 168 hands.

I figured we have too much equity to fold, not great visibility on turn. Cool?



Hand 2:

Villain is 49/14, low fold to cbet. I feel like I get in this spot a lot. Should I double or tripple here?



Hand 3:

Villain is 15/6, high agg factor over 200+ hands. Is it worth calling here, is he ever bluffing?




Hand 4:

Villain was 3betting 16%. Worth a bluff? Is it a raise / fold? My instincts say if he bet / calls bare aaxx it is not a fold but if he only reshoves aaxxdd at worst its a fold.

1:

only hand were kinda bad against is a set and we have a T blocker. against this very aggro villain who probably pushes with open ender or 2 pair here its ok to shove, turn could bring a lot of scary cards for us - we have BTN behind us too so play is fine i think cos we still have 2 backdoor flushes, top pair, over pair and gutter.


2:

board has no straight or flush draws and flop call from villain puts him on Kxxx or pairxx hand here. i cant imagine him folding any other turn than A. we cant really continue barreling or even calling a turn raise (even a ten) other than a low spade, so i prob give up this hand oop


3:

board hits villains (and yours) range hard and his tightness/aggression polarizes his hand here to air or ATxx cos i dont think hell c/r with less if not bluffing. your image for villain is important here. your perceived cbet for him? with implied odds its still a call or even push if you think he could be doing this with QQxx, JJxx, etc, paired turn or river probably kills the action

board: K Q J
Hand Equity Wins Ties
A K K 2 43.47% 231,462 58,748
A T x x 56.53% 309,790 58,748


4.

do you have any info on villains donkbet behaviour in these spots? i like your play and would try to end the hand here too cos we have to fold lots of turns (any high cards T+) if we call and he decides to barrel into us again and even diamond turn might give us trouble then (more or less have 4 outs here) and even though he has a high 3b% this is a tough board for villain to 3b oop if he doesnt hold KBBx or Adxxx, which has you pretty much beat anyway

He seemed to be c-betting often. I think vs most villains is a fold vs rr tho.

Thans 4 reply.

Hand 1.

Standard? Guy had low 3bet 4.2% over 697 hands, seemed thin to shove flop since it was minraise 3b pot.



Hand 2:

Same villain from hand 1. Not sure we have enough equity to raise / call?

i meant your cbetting behaviour as seen by him. also his check-raising% is interesting here. this is a very good board to check raise bluff on cos there are no flush draws and a very obvious nut hand. if he has blockers like TT or less often AA or hes thinking youre cbetting a lot here its a very profitable move. its hard to fire a second bullet oop for him though if he doesnt hold ATxx here. i'd call in position with top set cause you still have a lot of equity, getting a good price and will add more outs ott and if hes bluffing and wont bet turn you can take it down. your drawing to the nut boat here.

Thoughts on flop? These are spots in NLHE where Im either giving up on the flop or planning a big bluff, and I would assume in Omaha this is even more of a c/f. Is this accurate? villan was a standard tag - no history but he hadn't done much of anything up to this point.

$0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
CakePoker
4 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
CO ($224.39) 224bb
BTN ($114.45) 114bb
jrohinsky (SB) ($106.17) 106bb
BB ($98.12) 98bb

Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 4 players) jrohinsky is SB 3 6 5 4
1 fold, BTN raises to $2, jrohinsky raises to $6, 1 fold, BTN calls $4

Flop: 10 J Q ($13, 2 players)

Final Pot: $13

The wider his vpip the more likely I am to CB / f and vice versa. In general just c/f. Marginal 3bang pre when oop vs tag.

Sorry my comments were in regard to hand 4, 9966 not hand 3. I agree with you gotta continue with akk in some form.

H3: He perceived my cbet to be high for sure.

Hand 1:

Villain is maniac, 75/60 48.6 3b. Plan was to gii on blanks. I think I maybe shoulda called at this price once more and perhaps blank rivers...



Hand 2:

Same maniac as h1. What's better 4b pre or shove flop? I think 4b pre b/c he would more likely pot aa?



Hand 4:

Plan was to gii vs shorty on the flop. Cold caller is 45/20 loose passive. Figure his range is wide enough on the turn that we get some folds and we get it in with ok equity vs calls.

I just have a quick question:

The PLO game I play is 1-2 blinds but with a $5 bring in. Buy in range is 100 Min and 500 Max.

If I have $100, is this considered having 20 Big Blinds or 50 Big Blinds?

Would this be an ideal ShortStaking strategy table? I'm not rolled too deep so I like starting with a shortstack, trying to double/triple up and then play a regular game.

no solid reads on vil, have played like 15 hands before this, seems tagish

was considering an x/r OTT, not sure what is correct this deep. not very good at post flop yet. obv checked riv to try to get another bet from his 2 pairs/sets/missed flush draws/etc

PLO lowstakes 6max, normal table
Do I open AsQJs* UTG?

yeah you can open these hands. too much value to fold and to limp from utg. suited ace with 2 broaddways always not bad. GGARJ made a nice post about starting hands


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Three hands from one session against same villain. Played him on two tables.
Villain is 37/26/3,9 over 120 hands, three-betting frequently in position
(around 25% in CO/BTN ) and C-betting 64% IP. Had already seen him threebetting quite frequently IP. I´m 4-betting knowing he´s not having aces very often and I have a blocker . If he calls, my range is polarized and i´m dominating hands like middle rundowns. Plus, I can often c/r boards that don´t seem to have hit my range, where he might try to bluff me given his agrression.


Hand 1:








Hand 2:





Is this standard c/r on this board having overpair and GS?
Or should I 4-bet again knowing i´m ahead of his range?


Hand 3:







UTG was pretty nitty, so just calling with our vulnerable nuts and to generate action from SB (same aggressive guy from hands 1 and 2).
When he pots, i´m pretty confident at first, but looking at this board, there´s a good chance i´m already losing. Can´t fold though having underrepped my hand and knowing he´s aggressive, right?

Thoughts on all hands appreciated!

1. I'd like the 4b a lot more if you had opened larger initially.
2. cr looks good, but 4b pre
3. Kinda gross, you get it in bad pretty often, but I guess I play it the same

[converted_hand][hand_history]On Game, $0.25/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16478881

BB: $30.42 (121.7 bb)
UTG: $24.45 (97.8 bb)
Hero (MP): $25 (100 bb)
CO: $29.02 (116.1 bb)
BTN: $27.24 (109 bb)
SB: $81.07 (324.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 8 A 2 A
UTG raises to $1, Hero raises to $3.50, 2 folds, SB calls $3.25, BB folds, UTG calls $2.50

Flop: ($10.75) 9 K 3 (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero has $21...

SB is 39/7
UTG is 32/24, 55% f2cb

Should I just pot/call it, not much reason to bet smaller since I'm not really b/f here I don't think.

Annoying spot that I also have issues with. I have a preference for just betting big as opposed to pot but not a big difference.

Thx for feedback!

@ 1. I usually don´t pot from EP preflop to keep pots smaller OOP. Is this a leak? It´s not that I can´t have aces there, because I didn´t pot. Is your point that we want to blow up the pot to the max to have a small SPR so that we can shove nearly every flop like we would do if we did have aces? I´m actually pretty lost in deeper 4-bet pots especially without having aces. Against these aggressive guys IP, I think you have to 4-bet light sometimes, but always feel like I´m bleeding money if I do. I think you´re only increasing variance and don´t know on which flops to stack off safely. But simply calling and playing people OOP with your good non-aces hands sucks as well :/

@ 2. I don´t feel comfortable 4-betting KKxx at all. We are´nt blocking aces and what do we do if he decides to come over the top having seen us 4-bet light already? Is this a 4b/fold then?

@ 3. Deeper, I´m definitely folding this, knowing I´m flipping at best! But with the extra bets in the pot, I have to shove, I guess...

no read, am new to PLO, my hand good enough that it's all in all the time no matter what?

Do you have has 3b%? It could be a fold if his 4b range is only aa but I'd have a hard time folding it myself.

not folding

thanks, still trying to sort out what looks good and what is good for starting hands

Never folding, put the money in and expect to be surprised at the hands they can show up with sometimes.

Reads obv matter a bunch here though.

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