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10-05-2009 , 01:52 AM
Standard to 3-bet and call the 4 bet from sb?


Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (SB): $50.00
BB: $99.20
UTG: $97.15
CO: $44.25
BTN: $91.00

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with 7 7 J J
1 fold, CO calls $0.50, BTN raises to $2.25, Hero raises to $7.75, 2 folds, BTN raises to $24.25, Hero calls $16.50

Flop: ($49.50) T T 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $49.50, Hero calls $25.75 all in
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10-05-2009 , 03:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by shoobri
Standard to 3-bet and call the 4 bet from sb?


Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (SB): $50.00
BB: $99.20
UTG: $97.15
CO: $44.25
BTN: $91.00

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with 7 7 J J
1 fold, CO calls $0.50, BTN raises to $2.25, Hero raises to $7.75, 2 folds, BTN raises to $24.25, Hero calls $16.50

Flop: ($49.50) T T 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $49.50, Hero calls $25.75 all in
lol no. just flat it.
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10-05-2009 , 09:04 AM
Villain is a fairly liberal 3bettor.

Thoughts on any part of the hand would be appreciated:

Betfair $200.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
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BB: $522.80
Hero (BTN/SB): $812.60

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BTN/SB with 9 6 8 7
Hero raises to $6, BB raises to $18, Hero raises to $54, BB calls $36

Flop: ($108.00) 6 9 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $85.00, BB calls $85

Turn: ($278.00) 7 (2 players)
BB bets $120.00, Hero calls $120

River: ($518.00) 5 (2 players)
BB bets $263.80, Hero...
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10-05-2009 , 10:31 AM
I fold river tbh, this looks like T8, I know it's a narrow range, but given the info, this doesnt seem like a spot someone would bluff off his stack.
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10-05-2009 , 12:53 PM
If I get raised here would it ok to get it in as have a lot of the straight outs?


Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: $50.95
MP: $159.80
CO: $42.95
BTN: $28.65
Hero (SB): $74.40
BB: $39.00

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with 5 8 7 4
UTG calls $0.50, MP raises to $2.25, CO calls $2.25, 1 fold, Hero calls $2, BB calls $1.75, UTG calls $1.75

Flop: ($11.25) 7 5 2 (5 players)
Hero bets $9, BB folds, UTG folds, MP folds, CO folds
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10-05-2009 , 03:12 PM
villain 52/17/1.3 AF 35 WTS 450 hands

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $2(BB) Replayer
Hero ($230)
BB ($265)
CO ($563)
BTN ($492)

Dealt to Hero K 4 6 A

fold, fold, Hero raises to $6, BB calls $4

FLOP ($12) 4 7 5

Hero bets $9, BB calls $9

TURN ($30) 4 7 5 A

Hero bets $18, BB calls $18

RIVER ($66) 4 7 5 A A

Hero bets $44, BB raises to $198, Hero ???
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10-05-2009 , 03:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by eule
villain 52/17/1.3 AF 35 WTS 450 hands

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $2(BB) Replayer
Hero ($230)
BB ($265)
CO ($563)
BTN ($492)

Dealt to Hero K 4 6 A

fold, fold, Hero raises to $6, BB calls $4

FLOP ($12) 4 7 5

Hero bets $9, BB calls $9

TURN ($30) 4 7 5 A

Hero bets $18, BB calls $18

RIVER ($66) 4 7 5 A A

Hero bets $44, BB raises to $198, Hero ???
Six combinations of better boats and seven of worse boats + some random flushes/spew makes this a call for me. Your hand is quite disguised and villain having a set on the flop makes sense for his line IMO, unlucky if he has an ace to go along with it....

Last edited by Tamtaram; 10-05-2009 at 03:30 PM. Reason: hopefully got it right finally...
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10-05-2009 , 04:39 PM
Should I have barreled every street?

It was villain's second hand at table so no reads.

Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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BTN: $19.80
Hero (SB): $50.25
BB: $50.00
UTG: $107.70
MP: $51.25
CO: $85.75

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with 7 A A K
1 fold, MP calls $0.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2, BB calls $1.50, MP calls $1.50

Flop: ($6.00) 8 7 2 (3 players)
Hero bets $6, BB calls $6, MP folds

Turn: ($18.00) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $9, BB calls $9

River: ($36.00) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $33.25 all in, BB calls $33 all in
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10-05-2009 , 04:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by UnitedAs1
If I get raised here would it ok to get it in as have a lot of the straight outs?


Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: $50.95
MP: $159.80
CO: $42.95
BTN: $28.65
Hero (SB): $74.40
BB: $39.00

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with 5 8 7 4
UTG calls $0.50, MP raises to $2.25, CO calls $2.25, 1 fold, Hero calls $2, BB calls $1.75, UTG calls $1.75

Flop: ($11.25) 7 5 2 (5 players)
Hero bets $9, BB folds, UTG folds, MP folds, CO folds
Alot of straight outs? I see only one gutshot that gives you second nuts.
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10-05-2009 , 04:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by shoobri
Should I have barreled every street?

It was villain's second hand at table so no reads.

Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN: $19.80
Hero (SB): $50.25
BB: $50.00
UTG: $107.70
MP: $51.25
CO: $85.75

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with 7 A A K
1 fold, MP calls $0.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2, BB calls $1.50, MP calls $1.50

Flop: ($6.00) 8 7 2 (3 players)
Hero bets $6, BB calls $6, MP folds

Turn: ($18.00) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $9, BB calls $9

River: ($36.00) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $33.25 all in, BB calls $33 all in
The naked ace bluff does not work often enough and I stopped doing it. If you have to do it you might as well bet smaller on the river and/or keep your bets more consistent.
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10-05-2009 , 08:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tamtaram
Alot of straight outs? I see only one gutshot that gives you second nuts.
I mean his outs
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10-05-2009 , 09:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by shoobri
Should I have barreled every street?

It was villain's second hand at table so no reads.

Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN: $19.80
Hero (SB): $50.25
BB: $50.00
UTG: $107.70
MP: $51.25
CO: $85.75

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with 7 A A K
1 fold, MP calls $0.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2, BB calls $1.50, MP calls $1.50

Flop: ($6.00) 8 7 2 (3 players)
Hero bets $6, BB calls $6, MP folds

Turn: ($18.00) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $9, BB calls $9

River: ($36.00) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $33.25 all in, BB calls $33 all in
bet more on turn. like $3-4 more.
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10-05-2009 , 10:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by shoobri
Standard to 3-bet and call the 4 bet from sb?


Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (SB): $50.00
BB: $99.20
UTG: $97.15
CO: $44.25
BTN: $91.00

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with 7 7 J J
1 fold, CO calls $0.50, BTN raises to $2.25, Hero raises to $7.75, 2 folds, BTN raises to $24.25, Hero calls $16.50

Flop: ($49.50) T T 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $49.50, Hero calls $25.75 all in
whole hand is fine, tho i'd just open ship the flop

3betting or calling pre are both fine imo
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10-06-2009 , 02:13 AM
Full Tilt Poker Game #15150968302: Table Ayers (6 max) - $0.50/$1 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 23:45:32 ET - 2009/10/05
Seat 1: Mahler999 ($64.10)
Seat 2: Indo2549 ($32.10)
Seat 3: PoolSide1 ($119)
Seat 4: Jayed69 ($322.10)
Seat 5: NewbieCarnivore ($100)
Seat 6: TAGfish00 ($65.70)
Jayed69 posts the small blind of $0.50
NewbieCarnivore posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to PoolSide1 [Kc Ac 6c Kd]
Mahler999 raises to $3.50
Indo2549 folds
PoolSide1 calls $3.50
Jayed69 folds
NewbieCarnivore raises to $14.50
Mahler999 calls $11
PoolSide1 has 15 seconds left to act
PoolSide1 calls $11
*** FLOP *** [5h Qc Qd]
NewbieCarnivore checks
Mahler999 has 15 seconds left to act
Mahler999 checks
PoolSide1 has 15 seconds left to act
PoolSide1 checks
*** TURN *** [5h Qc Qd] [Js]
NewbieCarnivore checks
Mahler999 has 15 seconds left to act
Mahler999 checks
PoolSide1 bets $26
NewbieCarnivore has 15 seconds left to act
NewbieCarnivore calls $26
Mahler999 folds
*** RIVER *** [5h Qc Qd Js] [Ks]
NewbieCarnivore checks
PoolSide1 has 15 seconds left to act
PoolSide1 bets $78.50, and is all in ????


NewbieCarnivore calls $59.50, and is all in
Uncalled bet of $19 returned to PoolSide1
*** SHOW DOWN ***
PoolSide1 shows [Kc Ac 6c Kd] a full house, Kings full of Queens
NewbieCarnivore shows [Ah Qh Qs Jc] four of a kind, Queens
NewbieCarnivore wins the pot ($212) with four of a kind, Queens
PoolSide1 adds $81
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $215 | Rake $3
Board: [5h Qc Qd Js Ks]
Seat 1: Mahler999 folded on the Turn
Seat 2: Indo2549 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: PoolSide1 (button) showed [Kc Ac 6c Kd] and lost with a full house, Kings full of Queens
Seat 4: Jayed69 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: NewbieCarnivore (big blind) showed [Ah Qh Qs Jc] and won ($212) with four of a kind, Queens
Seat 6: TAGfish00 is sitting out
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10-06-2009 , 08:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurious
I fold river tbh, this looks like T8, I know it's a narrow range, but given the info, this doesnt seem like a spot someone would bluff off his stack.
its a mistake to call this?
I dont play HU, so i dont know whats the standard move are. here is my thinking process:
-after we called the turn he knows that we dont have the nuts so sometimes he can try to make the bluff or valuebet light.
-in hu how frequently turning people hands into bluff with this line? I mean call cbet with hands like tp than leadout turn to define opponent's hand. if opponent just call than he hasnt got the nuts so we can fire river.
- is there any difference in our play if he potting turn instead of halfpotting?
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10-06-2009 , 12:18 PM
BU is a reg and opens wide, table was pretty wild with lots of 3-betting from SB and me.

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.25 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com



saw flop | saw showdown

MP ($7.85)
Button ($25)
SB ($97.95)
Hero (BB) ($48.15)
UTG ($32.90)



Preflop: Hero is BB with 9, 7, 8, 6
2 folds, Button bets $0.85, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.60, Button calls $1.75

Flop: ($5.30) 9, K, 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $4.50, Button raises to $18.55, Hero raises to $45.55 (All-In), Button calls $3.85 (All-In)

Standard to go all the way without spades? ty guys
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10-06-2009 , 03:52 PM
Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (MP): $32.65
CO: $18.90
BTN: $16.50
SB: $26.70
BB: $43.00
UTG: $31.35

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is MP with 9 3 3 9
UTG raises to $0.85, Hero calls $0.85, 4 folds

Flop: ($2.05) Q 5 4 (2 players)
UTG bets $1.95, Hero calls $1.95

Turn: ($5.95) J (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($5.95) 4 (2 players)
UTG bets $5.70, Hero ?

Was a bit bothered by this hand.. what do u guys think?
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10-06-2009 , 04:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SbteH
Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (MP): $32.65
CO: $18.90
BTN: $16.50
SB: $26.70
BB: $43.00
UTG: $31.35

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is MP with 9 3 3 9
UTG raises to $0.85, Hero calls $0.85, 4 folds

Flop: ($2.05) Q 5 4 (2 players)
UTG bets $1.95, Hero calls $1.95

Turn: ($5.95) J (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($5.95) 4 (2 players)
UTG bets $5.70, Hero ?

Was a bit bothered by this hand.. what do u guys think?

fold pre... call here is player dependent. I fold against most players.
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10-06-2009 , 04:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by IloveCars
BU is a reg and opens wide, table was pretty wild with lots of 3-betting from SB and me.

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.25 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com



saw flop | saw showdown

MP ($7.85)
Button ($25)
SB ($97.95)
Hero (BB) ($48.15)
UTG ($32.90)



Preflop: Hero is BB with 9, 7, 8, 6
2 folds, Button bets $0.85, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.60, Button calls $1.75

Flop: ($5.30) 9, K, 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $4.50, Button raises to $18.55, Hero raises to $45.55 (All-In), Button calls $3.85 (All-In)

Standard to go all the way without spades? ty guys

I'm check/raising all in here. UL if he has KK but that will show up here at least 30% of the time, I find. The other times it's flush draws... still a good play considering he may bluff flop when you check.
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10-06-2009 , 04:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Poolside
Full Tilt Poker Game #15150968302: Table Ayers (6 max) - $0.50/$1 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 23:45:32 ET - 2009/10/05
Seat 1: Mahler999 ($64.10)
Seat 2: Indo2549 ($32.10)
Seat 3: PoolSide1 ($119)
Seat 4: Jayed69 ($322.10)
Seat 5: NewbieCarnivore ($100)
Seat 6: TAGfish00 ($65.70)
Jayed69 posts the small blind of $0.50
NewbieCarnivore posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to PoolSide1 [Kc Ac 6c Kd]
Mahler999 raises to $3.50
Indo2549 folds
PoolSide1 calls $3.50
Jayed69 folds
NewbieCarnivore raises to $14.50
Mahler999 calls $11
PoolSide1 has 15 seconds left to act
PoolSide1 calls $11
*** FLOP *** [5h Qc Qd]
NewbieCarnivore checks
Mahler999 has 15 seconds left to act
Mahler999 checks
PoolSide1 has 15 seconds left to act
PoolSide1 checks
*** TURN *** [5h Qc Qd] [Js]
NewbieCarnivore checks
Mahler999 has 15 seconds left to act
Mahler999 checks
PoolSide1 bets $26
NewbieCarnivore has 15 seconds left to act
NewbieCarnivore calls $26
Mahler999 folds
*** RIVER *** [5h Qc Qd Js] [Ks]
NewbieCarnivore checks
PoolSide1 has 15 seconds left to act
PoolSide1 bets $78.50, and is all in ????


NewbieCarnivore calls $59.50, and is all in
Uncalled bet of $19 returned to PoolSide1
*** SHOW DOWN ***
PoolSide1 shows [Kc Ac 6c Kd] a full house, Kings full of Queens
NewbieCarnivore shows [Ah Qh Qs Jc] four of a kind, Queens
NewbieCarnivore wins the pot ($212) with four of a kind, Queens
PoolSide1 adds $81
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $215 | Rake $3
Board: [5h Qc Qd Js Ks]
Seat 1: Mahler999 folded on the Turn
Seat 2: Indo2549 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: PoolSide1 (button) showed [Kc Ac 6c Kd] and lost with a full house, Kings full of Queens
Seat 4: Jayed69 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: NewbieCarnivore (big blind) showed [Ah Qh Qs Jc] and won ($212) with four of a kind, Queens
Seat 6: TAGfish00 is sitting out

As played you have to get it in on river.

I can't figure out exactly why I just don't like the way you played it. I think that preflop call was not something I would do.

Either 4-bet him to $30 and fold to shove or just fold it straight away. Why set mine here? I don't do that but I'm not that great.
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10-07-2009 , 07:49 AM
Top set on made straight board and with 2nd nfd, three way is it correct to fold or ship? I'm guessing at least on of Villains has made straight and the other the NFD.


Party Poker $50.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: $75.58
UTG: $58.14
CO: $64.70
Hero (BTN): $52.24
SB: $73.72

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with K 3 7 K
2 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, SB raises to $5, BB calls $4.50, Hero calls $3.50

Flop: ($15.00) T K Q (3 players)
SB bets $10.68, BB raises to $46.29, Hero folds
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10-07-2009 , 07:55 AM
board: tcqcks
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
kc3c7dkd 36.10% 216,611 0
aj** 35.07% 178,409 64,077
ac***c 28.82% 140,903 64,077

seems like a very easy ship, at worst you have 36% threeway
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10-07-2009 , 07:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SbteH
Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (MP): $32.65
CO: $18.90
BTN: $16.50
SB: $26.70
BB: $43.00
UTG: $31.35

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is MP with 9 3 3 9
UTG raises to $0.85, Hero calls $0.85, 4 folds

Flop: ($2.05) Q 5 4 (2 players)
UTG bets $1.95, Hero calls $1.95

Turn: ($5.95) J (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($5.95) 4 (2 players)
UTG bets $5.70, Hero ?

Was a bit bothered by this hand.. what do u guys think?
Personally I will always raise double paired hands pre, otherwise standard fold on river.
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10-07-2009 , 07:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by shoobri
Top set on made straight board and with 2nd nfd, three way is it correct to fold or ship? I'm guessing at least on of Villains has made straight and the other the NFD.


Party Poker $50.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: $75.58
UTG: $58.14
CO: $64.70
Hero (BTN): $52.24
SB: $73.72

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with K 3 7 K
2 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, SB raises to $5, BB calls $4.50, Hero calls $3.50

Flop: ($15.00) T K Q (3 players)
SB bets $10.68, BB raises to $46.29, Hero folds
lol
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10-07-2009 , 08:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jwc529
lol
Yup, lol it is today....nothing is hitting especially when all the money goes in.
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