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PL Omaha $1(BB) Replayer
Hero ($129)
BB ($31.21)
UTG ($111)
CO ($66)
BTN ($180)

Dealt to Hero 9 A T Q

UTG raises to $3.50, fold, fold, Hero raises to $11.50, fold, UTG calls $8

FLOP ($24) J 9 3

Hero checks, UTG bets $13, Hero raises to $61.92, UTG raises to $100 (AI), Hero calls $38.41

Villain is 21/14 and seems ok postflop. I don't wanna bet/get in flop vs his range (I would on non-fd I think) so I x/shoved to get extra monies if he stabs light here. I feel like my hand strength doesn't really fit any line. Help!

Standard.

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP ($42.81) - seems solid, hasn't spazzed anything over like 30-50 hands plays multiple tables
CO ($25.05)
Hero (Button) ($26.62)
SB ($16.94)
BB ($10.91)
UTG ($47.63)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q, 9, K, 10
1 fold, MP bets $0.47, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.68, 2 folds, MP raises to $5.31, Hero calls $3.63

Flop: ($10.89) 3, 8, 10 (2 players)
MP bets $10.40 - Is this a ship?

If he's potting flop with all Aces then yes it is.

The HUD wasn't working because it was the first hand of the session. Anyway I recalled that I have very few hands on UTG and therefore supposed he's not a reg (i.e. loose-passive by default).

What's the best line? Do I take it right I should c/r the turn AI? Thanks!

GTECH G2 (Boss) - $0.30 PL Hi (5 max) - Omaha Hi - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $7.35
SB: $56.07
Hero (BB): $30.00
UTG: $26.40

SB posts SB $0.15, Hero posts BB $0.30

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.45) Hero has Q Q 7 A

UTG calls $0.30, fold, SB calls $0.15, Hero raises to $1.20, UTG calls $0.90, fold

Flop: ($2.70, 2 players) Q 9 T
Hero bets $2.70, UTG calls $2.70

Turn: ($8.10, 2 players) K
Hero?

Bet/call, unless he's bluffy in which case cshove is better (though u dont know that)

^ Thanks for the advice. What's the river plan if he just calls? I should shove all improving rivers, even J, but what about other clubs and total bricks, do I take it right that I should check/fold those because I don't know his bluffing tendencies? (In the actual hand my turn potbet was called and the river was 5, with 60% of the pot size left in his stack.)

That's ghey. When people just call big bets on these boards I find they've got big draws a lot. So maybe he has 2p+fd from the flop, another definite possibility is that he has the 2nd nut straight & is in call down mode. It's gross with so little behind otr but I think c/f could be reasonable, randoms don't bluff in big pots, even when you'd expect em to. In my experience.

Villain is loose passive running 39/10 over 128 hands. I checked back the flop cause I don't think he folds much & I'm not crazy about tripling him. But looking a bit closer I'd say if I cb this board w/ my hand it's more of a vb. Would you agree?
Anyway I stab the turn & I hesitated on the river cause I wasn't sure how much he'd fold his 2pear. (Maybe never cause it's a small pot)

So I figured the risk wasn't worth the reward & checked back figuring I can take the pot down a decent % of the time with my pear.

Thoughts?

I think you're taking it down almost never. It's just really hard for him to have a non-paired draw on the river since sd's now have at least 5s and you hold 3 of the hearts.

I inputed a random range of heartdraws, straightdraws, pairs and other stuff and you are good 7% on the river. Heck, vs any 4 cards you're good less than 11%.

So a bluff only has to be slightly +EV to be a better option than checking behind.

Standard? Villain is a good TAG.

****! Thanks for the reply man, that puts things in perspective. I'm gonna start analyzing my hands more like that in the future.

I like the fold. I thought you got it in for a sec (100bbs) & was going to say if villain gets in AKQ stuff you're fine but you need to have the right image vs him, ie be capable of bluff raising here. (But the flop was 4 ways & limped so thats irrelevant now)
I'd say you're doing badly vs good tags here like always, I could see him shipping A3 being afraid of overcards coming & wanting to shut it down for sure.

I'm wondering if this is an ok spot to bluff.
Villain is 79/3 over ~50 hands. I cb cause I might get enough folds & I don't have much backdoor potential so I figure this is my best chance to take down the pot.
While I think his flop c range is wide (All the way down to 5x/2x & maybe some gut shot stuff) which he'll now fold I also think he has Tx/straight draws/fds that he won't fold now & that'll leave me in an awkward spot otr, so I pot to check figuring I could take the pot down with a bet sometimes.

So all his draws bricked & I'm unsure how often my A hi will be good at showdown. So it's a question of how many 2x/5x he has here cause I doubt Tx will fold. I bet on the bigger side cause I didn't want him to get tempted.

Any pointers here? Sorry if I'm a bit all over the place, it's been a long day!

Envoy, i wouldn't be betting turn unless i had designs on certain river bluffs. Given however how difficult it is to assign this villain an accurate range, and how little equity we have, im not shutting down turn.

The river entirely depends on villain. It basically depends on what awful line of logic he uses to reach his decision. You rep nothing (You never ever ever have Kx here) but we can assume villain probably isn't clever enough to realise this. The bet in a vacuum is terrible for sure.

Definitely terrible in a vacuum.
Would you say a random donk with his stats folds enough on average otr?

So basically his range is so all over the place you're firing again? Kind of?
Wondering what your river plan is, on 's I'd imagine you're checking, 's probly bet & check most straight cards (that we don't hit on)
Are you bluffing bricks?

5 max PLO10 on Boss, CO posts blind OOP

Each of these guys has 50+ vpip and 30- PFR, and they were all very passive (<40 Agg Fq). SB is the most aggresive, he has also been flaming in the chat and telling the donks they are donks. He will 3bet more than AA**

GTECH G2 (Boss) - ˆ0.10 PL Hi - Omaha - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

UTG: ˆ14.31
CO: ˆ10.00
Hero (BTN): ˆ10.02
SB: ˆ25.80
BB: ˆ19.79

SB posts SB ˆ0.05, BB posts BB ˆ0.10, CO posts DB ˆ0.10

Pre Flop: (ˆ0.25) Hero has J Q 5 9

UTG calls ˆ0.10, CO checks, Hero raises to ˆ0.55, SB raises to ˆ1.95, BB calls ˆ1.85, UTG calls ˆ1.85, fold, Hero calls ˆ1.40

Flop: (ˆ7.90, 4 players) Q T 3
SB bets ˆ3.00, BB calls ˆ3.00, fold, Hero calls ˆ3.00

Turn: (ˆ16.90, 3 players) Q
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets ˆ5.07 and is all-in

Np.

But note that I'm not necessarily sure if a bluff is +EV or not. That's a different issue.

@meepwn: well played. They're passive so they won't bluff the river, your turn bet defends your hand from straightdraws and overpairs (I suppose they're so horrible that they'll call), you have sufficient odds vs flushes so you won't fold either on the turn or the river. Anyway so little is left on the turn that either move isn't a big mistake, but calling the flop is definitely better than shoving - you could save money should a bad turn have come.

Steamers are sw33t and raise my mood , especially when someone else replies to them, doing the tilting job for me. I don't know whether SB calls you names or not, but I'm a donk in such players' opinion and that's close to truth yet. That's the right way to go. I've never seen you 3bet (given 21 chance), maybe you were dealt bad hands in this tiny sample but I suspect you 3bet too tight.

Thanks for the analysis.

Ofc I 3bet more than AA** The better kings, queens, rundowns and of course 4 broadway cards. I don't really like 3betting hands like KK53ss or QQT7r especially oop. But there are certainly some players on my tables who 3bet like 5% over a big sample which is pretty much exactly aces.

What is your nickname?

original raiser is 22/7 over 40 hands, 3bettor is 29/21 with a 3b of 0 over 14 hands.

PokerStars - $0.50 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: $83.16
MP: $145.62
CO: $84.56
Hero (BTN): $50.00
SB: $46.35
BB: $50.00

SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has T Q 9 A

fold, fold, CO raises to $1.50, Hero calls $1.50, fold, BB raises to $6.25, fold, fold

BB wins $4.75

3bet first time around

Villain here is a reg running 27/18 over 1k. No sample on his raise cb in 3b pots but his raise cb in normal pots is 17% over 41. I have one pertinent note: "cold called 3b IP w/ 5789r, jammed ovr cb w/ tp+wrap"
Blocking KK is pretty cool & I wouldn't worry about 88 all that much. I guess he'll show up with K8 occasionally but also 8x+fd, Kx+fd.
One thing that worries me is that he'll see me as quite AA heavy from the blinds, so he might chance a raise with something like 89T. And he looks like someone who'd be capable of doing so.
Vs just K8, 8x+fd, Kx+fd I've got 35% which is right about where I need to be to make the call, if we add stuff like 89T that bumps me up to 40%

I'm mainly posting this cause the difference between 10plo & 20plo is that people are hand reading more, so I'm coming from nearly always b/f AA in 3b pots at 10plo cause they always had it, to a level where they see I have AA & will try to exploit it.

Thoughts?

Your line is good, Envoy, but for some reason I've got an itch for having a balanced c/r range here, like 2pr+, AA+NFD, pair+nutblocker: given his reggy image and adequate raise cbet %, I suppose he's also too stabby vs missed cbets, and I'd like to get an additional bet out of bluffing air; there's little danger from free cards because we can bluff club turns . Exactly aces are 2.57%, a 5% range is more like yours. I'm afraid that if you find out my SN you'll bumhunt and pwn mee when you move up. I've already given away enough info, it's now easy to figure my SN out, which is an interesting challenge, I hope. If you don't manage to do it within a couple of days, delight me by shooting a surrender PM .

thanks for the feedback - i know its only 40 hands but 20/7 is really tight, would this not put you off 3betting AQT9ss? if i had more hands on him with the same stats would you still 3bet?