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Old 08-27-2009, 01:47 PM   #26
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

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hero SB/BTN: $55
villain BB: $60

hero T986

hero raises to $1.50
BB calls

flop ($3.00) 872
BB checks
hero bets $3.00
BB raises to $6.00
hero calls $3.00

turn ($15.00) 872K
BB bets $15.00
hero calls $15.00

river ($45.00) 872K5
BB checks
hero bets $27.50 (all-in)
super standard A+

Obviously raise the flop isn't bad, but you have SO many nut outs & chances to freeroll on the turn when you hit that this line is way better imo.

If villain was v. aggro I'd raise flop because we can probably get it in for value against top set here.
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Old 08-27-2009, 01:52 PM   #27
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

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anyone plays is different?

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BB: $96.65
Hero (BTN/SB): $133.20

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN/SB with K 3 T 9
Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6.00) K 3 2 (2 players)
BB bets $5, Hero raises to $20.70, BB raises to $67.80, Hero raises to $130.20 all in, BB calls $25.85 all in

Turn: ($193.30) 6 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($193.30) 9 (2 players - 2 are all in)
Not standard. Need reads that villain is stacking off top pair + kicker draws with backdoor draws before you stack on this flop. You are screwed versus a set without even any kind of backdoor draws. Would be better if you could discount KKxx (due to preflop 3-betting) and if he habitually plays low card runs like A234, 6543 etc.
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Old 08-27-2009, 01:54 PM   #28
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

hey quick checkup here,

is anyone elses HM hud not working since FTP update this morning or is it just me?
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Old 08-27-2009, 04:34 PM   #29
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hey quick checkup here,

is anyone elses HM hud not working since FTP update this morning or is it just me?
Try asking here.
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Old 08-27-2009, 08:25 PM   #30
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

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Hero (BB): $132.75
BTN/SB: $140.50

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with A Q A 2
BTN/SB raises to $3, Hero raises to $9, BTN/SB calls $6

Flop: ($18.00) 2 T 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $14, BTN/SB calls $14

Turn: ($46.00) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $45.50, BTN/SB raises to $117.50 all in, Hero calls $64.25 all in

River: ($265.50) T (2 players - 2 are all in)
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Old 08-27-2009, 08:26 PM   #31
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

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Hero (BB): $116.10
BTN/SB: $256.05

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with 7 T 8 A
BTN/SB raises to $3, Hero raises to $9, BTN/SB calls $6

Flop: ($18.00) 8 2 K (2 players)
Hero bets $14, BTN/SB raises to $59.50, Hero raises to $105, BTN/SB raises to $150.50, Hero calls $2.10 all in

Turn: ($232.20) 3 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($232.20) T (2 players - 1 is all in)
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Old 08-27-2009, 08:30 PM   #32
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

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Old 08-27-2009, 11:05 PM   #33
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

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CO: $81.45
BTN: $53.00
Hero (SB): $129.70
BB: $128.95
UTG: $207.00
MP: $100.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is SB with A Q 4 J
4 folds, Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6.00) T 6 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks

Turn: ($6.00) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $4, BB calls $4

River: ($14.00) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $9, Hero raises to $36, BB calls $27

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What do you think of my river c/r here? I had a lot of history with villain. We started two tables with him on my right. I'd 3bet him quite a few times and we've played quite a few pots together. He's playing a 29/16 with a 1.17 AF. I thought a lot of his range would consist of garbage straight/flush draws. Am I not repping much?
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Old 08-27-2009, 11:12 PM   #34
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

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correct fold? just cheking am i tilting or not

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Hero (BB): $102.70
BTN/SB: $141.05

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with Q K K 9
BTN/SB raises to $3, Hero raises to $9, BTN/SB calls $6

Flop: ($18.00) 4 5 A (2 players)
Hero bets $14, BTN/SB raises to $55, Hero folds

Final Pot: $46.00
BTN/SB wins $45.50
(Rake: $0.50)
Don't ever bet here to b/f for one buy in.
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Old 08-27-2009, 11:19 PM   #35
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Old 08-27-2009, 11:35 PM   #36
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

Are the flopped nuts no redraws good enough to felt vs somewhat passive player in limped pots?

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Hero (BB): $57.20
BTN/SB: $72.90

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with A 7 T 4
BTN/SB calls $0.25, Hero checks

Flop: ($1.00) 6 9 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $1, BTN/SB raises to $4, Hero raises to $13, BTN/SB raises to $40, Hero raises to $56.70 all in, BTN/SB calls $16.70
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Old 08-27-2009, 11:46 PM   #37
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

Nah. I'd flat. You can't really expect him to get it in with anything other than the same hand when he's passive and since you don't have re-draws you're putting in over 100bbs for a chop. When you flat you can also *potentially* get him to fold on later streets which is sexy but the right cards have to fall obviously.
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Old 08-28-2009, 03:15 AM   #38
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Nah. I'd flat. You can't really expect him to get it in with anything other than the same hand when he's passive and since you don't have re-draws you're putting in over 100bbs for a chop. When you flat you can also *potentially* get him to fold on later streets which is sexy but the right cards have to fall obviously.
You play 50PLO HU lately? I see people show up with the worse straight/a set/2 pair here all the time. Only flat that flop if you hate money.
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Old 08-28-2009, 03:50 AM   #39
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Nope. Guess I give randoms at 50 plo too much credit.
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Old 08-28-2009, 12:26 PM   #40
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

Same villain, both hands.

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BB: $165.60
Hero (BTN/SB): $179.40

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN/SB with 6 K 9 Q
Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6.00) Q 3 K (2 players)
BB bets $5, Hero raises to $20, BB calls $15

Turn: ($46.00) 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $45, BB raises to $142.60 all in, Hero calls $97.60

River: ($331.20) J (2 players - 1 is all in)

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BB: $100.70
Hero (BTN/SB): $346.10

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN/SB with J 3 Q 6
Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6.00) 7 9 J (2 players)
BB bets $5, Hero calls $5

Turn: ($16.00) Q (2 players)
BB bets $10, Hero calls $10

River: ($36.00) 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

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Old 08-28-2009, 01:04 PM   #41
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

I play the same, but if he's donking as wide as it looks like he is from the two hands, raising the turn in hand two is fine.
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Old 08-28-2009, 01:09 PM   #42
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

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Same villain, both hands.

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BB: $165.60
Hero (BTN/SB): $179.40

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN/SB with 6 K 9 Q
Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6.00) Q 3 K (2 players)
BB bets $5, Hero raises to $20, BB calls $15

Turn: ($46.00) 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $45, BB raises to $142.60 all in, Hero calls $97.60

River: ($331.20) J (2 players - 1 is all in)

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Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
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BB: $100.70
Hero (BTN/SB): $346.10

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN/SB with J 3 Q 6
Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6.00) 7 9 J (2 players)
BB bets $5, Hero calls $5

Turn: ($16.00) Q (2 players)
BB bets $10, Hero calls $10

River: ($36.00) 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

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Raise the turn in 2nd hand if you want him to stop donking flops. If you don't mind because you feel he is otherwise weak, doesn't matter so much.
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Old 08-28-2009, 01:43 PM   #43
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

is it possible to fold river given this sick odds?

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Hero (BTN/SB): $250.30
BB: $149.60

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN/SB with 4 4 2 2
Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6.00) 7 4 Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB raises to $8, Hero raises to $29.70, BB calls $21.70

Turn: ($65.40) T (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $64.90, BB calls $64.90

River: ($195.20) 6 (2 players)
BB bets $52 all in, Hero

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Old 08-28-2009, 03:29 PM   #44
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Standard? When he bets the flop weak my plan is to obviously bluff hearts / blanks if he checks since the board can get scary. I make my straight, but it comes a heart, I know he has aces... you see where I'm going.

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Stacks:
UTG hnhmom ($176.85)
UTG+1 cassiodorus ($136.75)
CO davo642977 ($153.60)
BTN Hero ($198.00)
SB G_Midas ($100.00)
BB Ron and Muff ($60.00)

Pre-flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is BTN 8 J 9 7
hnhmom calls $1, 2 folds, Hero raises to $4.50, G_Midas raises to $15.50, 1 fold, hnhmom folds, Hero calls $11

Flop: 6 K 8 ($33, 2 players)
G_Midas bets $25, Hero calls $25

Turn: T ($83, 2 players)
G_Midas checks, Hero bets $60, G_Midas goes all-in $59.50

River: A ($202.50, 2 players)

Final Pot: $202
Hero shows: 8 J 9 7
G_Midas shows: Q 4 A A

Hero wins $0.50 ( lost -$100 )
G_Midas wins $199 ( won +$99 )
hnhmom lost -$1

Hand 2:

Standard fold to this reg's lead in a 3 bet pot?

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Stacks:
UTG cassiodorus ($136.75)
UTG+1 davo642977 ($175.45)
CO Hero ($202.05)
BTN Crodady ($76.15)
SB TripAces ($97.50)
BB hnhmom ($89.75)

Pre-flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is CO 9 J T 8
1 fold, davo642977 raises to $3.50, Hero raises to $12, 1 fold, TripAces calls $11.50, 1 fold, davo642977 calls $8.50

Flop: K T J ($37, 3 players)
TripAces bets $35.15, davo642977 folds, Hero folds

Final Pot: $37

TripAces wins $70.30 ( won +$23.15 )
davo642977 lost -$12
Hero lost -$12
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Old 08-28-2009, 03:38 PM   #45
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What were you doing in the first one? You have the best hand really often but worse can't really call.
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Old 08-28-2009, 03:55 PM   #46
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What were you doing in the first one? You have the best hand really often but worse can't really call.
So you think I should have just tried to check it down or what? I figured with less than a PSB remaining he might hero call with AAxx or AAQx I guess.. its just difficult because like you know he has AAxx and odds are he doesn't have hearts as well, but blah he had them this time. Its just like, I hit my card but its tainted and I'm stuck between value betting what's likely the best hand with a SPR under 1 so he MIGHT call with some hands I have squished like bare AA or broadway wraps or trying to check the hand down.
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I am raising the flop there 100% of the time tbh.
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Old 08-28-2009, 04:22 PM   #48
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I am raising the flop there 100% of the time tbh.
I considered that but I thought I'd get more FE out of dry aces with a scary turn than jamming the flop straight away. It's a coinflip against bare AA and he might just take that flip on the flop... figured this time I could use my position and get more FE on scary turns.
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I considered that but I thought I'd get more FE out of dry aces with a scary turn than jamming the flop straight away. It's a coinflip against bare AA and he might just take that flip on the flop... figured this time I could use my position and get more FE on scary turns.
Your hand is a flip vs aces, but that's the bottom of your range I'd say, so he would make a mistake.
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Old 08-28-2009, 06:24 PM   #50
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Standard? When he bets the flop weak my plan is to obviously bluff hearts / blanks if he checks since the board can get scary. I make my straight, but it comes a heart, I know he has aces... you see where I'm going.

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Stacks:
UTG hnhmom ($176.85)
UTG+1 cassiodorus ($136.75)
CO davo642977 ($153.60)
BTN Hero ($198.00)
SB G_Midas ($100.00)
BB Ron and Muff ($60.00)

Pre-flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is BTN 8 J 9 7
hnhmom calls $1, 2 folds, Hero raises to $4.50, G_Midas raises to $15.50, 1 fold, hnhmom folds, Hero calls $11

Flop: 6 K 8 ($33, 2 players)
G_Midas bets $25, Hero calls $25

Turn: T ($83, 2 players)
G_Midas checks, Hero bets $60, G_Midas goes all-in $59.50

River: A ($202.50, 2 players)

Final Pot: $202
Hero shows: 8 J 9 7
G_Midas shows: Q 4 A A

Hero wins $0.50 ( lost -$100 )
G_Midas wins $199 ( won +$99 )
hnhmom lost -$1

Flop is a must raise imo.
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