*~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

[JasonP530]

Villian is 75/25 and only read on him is that he called a rr pre with JT77 pre 3 ways, called on QT4 and then AI on 3 turn. Did I overplay it? Should I just call the turn?


Poker Stars $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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Hero (UTG): $214.65
MP: $200.00
CO: $500.25
BTN: $109.15
SB: $101.50
BB: $249.40

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is UTG with 3 K K 4
Hero raises to $4, MP calls $4, 2 folds, SB calls $3, BB calls $2

Flop: ($16.00) 5 2 J (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $14, MP folds, SB folds, BB calls $14

Turn: ($44.00) 8 (2 players)
BB bets $18, Hero raises to $95.85, BB calls $77.85

River: ($235.70) J (2 players)
BB bets $94, Hero calls $94

[warmachine]

Is this weak or too cautious? I didn't cbet because I wanted a free card and was thinking I might have to dump if I got RR or CR. I think this draw is much weaker than it looks since I have only 8 nut outs and I'm only getting action from straight draws that dominate me and or have some show down value already. The other possibilities are sets and 2PRs which I am in decent shape against. I would have called or CRed a PSB from the button, but when BB CRs pot and I'm stuck in the middle, I figured I was in trouble and didn't want to get stacks in without seeing a safe-ish turn.

I realize I have a bajillion outs, but I really don't like the spot since I am so easily dominated.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $1(BB) Poker Stars
SB ($112)
BB ($100)
Hero ($109)
CO ($106)
BTN ($206)

Dealt to Hero J Q 9 T

Hero raises to $3.50, fold, BTN calls $3.50, SB calls $3, fold

FLOP ($11.50) K 4 T

SB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $5, SB raises to $24, Hero? [color=red]

Thanks.
-wm

[PipChip]

^^ I'd fold.
You're crushed by JQAx which I bet someone has... and also someone has a set... Given the action behind you I think its a clear fold

Id prefer B/F on the flop, since we have initiative and (presumably) a bunch of equity

[FILIPPO_INZAGHI]

Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 4 players
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SB: $222.95
BB: $86.85
Hero (CO): $101.10
BTN: $173.30

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is CO with 7 A 9 J
Hero raises to $3, 1 fold, SB calls $2.50, BB calls $2

Flop: ($9.00) 2 3 8 (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $6, SB calls $6, BB folds

Turn: ($21.00) T (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $14, SB calls $14

River: ($49.00) Q (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets ??

There ain't too many hands I can bet all streets with for value, so I guess that's a reason for betting big? No reads or sample on villain, so I don't know if a small bet like 1/3 or so would make him spazz or call very light. I ended up betting 36$ or so which I afterwards feel was not the best sizing..

[warmachine]

But isn't it precisely because I have so much equity that I should CC or take a free card? The last thing I want to have to do is fold for whatever reason.

-wm

[warmachine]

I probably should have raised AI on the turn to rep a boat and get the same straight to fold as well as protect against tip 6's filling up. Correct?

He was less that 10% to win on the flop

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $1(BB) Poker Stars
SB ($44.50)
BB ($103)
UTG ($40.75)
UTG+1 ($55.75)
CO ($110)
Hero ($128)

Dealt to Hero Q 7 8 5

UTG calls $1, UTG+1 calls $1, fold, Hero raises to $5.50, fold, fold, UTG calls $4.50, UTG+1 calls $4.50

FLOP ($18) 6 5 4

UTG checks, UTG+1 bets $8, Hero calls $8, UTG folds

TURN ($34) 6 5 4 6

UTG+1 bets $15, Hero calls $15

RIVER ($64) 6 5 4 6 T

UTG+1 bets $27.25 (AI), Hero calls $27.25

UTG+1 shows 6 9 T A
(Pre 55%, Flop 9.5%, Turn 25.0%)

Hero shows Q 7 8 5
(Pre 45%, Flop 90.5%, Turn 75.0%)

UTG+1 wins $115

Thanks.
-wm

[YouGoTGoT]

Originally Posted by FILIPPO_INZAGHI

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SB: $222.95
BB: $86.85
Hero (CO): $101.10
BTN: $173.30

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is CO with 7 A 9 J
Hero raises to $3, 1 fold, SB calls $2.50, BB calls $2

Flop: ($9.00) 2 3 8 (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $6, SB calls $6, BB folds

Turn: ($21.00) T (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $14, SB calls $14

River: ($49.00) Q (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets ??

There ain't too many hands I can bet all streets with for value, so I guess that's a reason for betting big? No reads or sample on villain, so I don't know if a small bet like 1/3 or so would make him spazz or call very light. I ended up betting 36$ or so which I afterwards feel was not the best sizing..

He missed like everything here so go big, little less then pot.

[Masq]

I decided to mix it up a little pre-flop. I won't say much more but is this standard? Check call river? bet fold river? check fold river?


Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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SB: $4.24
BB: $5.43
UTG: $3.76
MP: $6.26
Hero (CO): $6.26
BTN: $6.90

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is CO with 6 4 7 8
1 fold, MP calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.15, BTN calls $0.15, 2 folds, MP calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.52) 4 4 A (3 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $0.35, BTN calls $0.35, MP calls $0.35

Turn: ($1.57) 8 (3 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $1, BTN calls $1, MP folds

River: ($3.57) T (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $2.95, Hero calls $2.95

[silver18]

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $0.50(BB) Replayer
SB ($50)
BB ($50.75)
UTG ($68.90)
Hero ($51.60)
CO ($49.55)
BTN ($92.60)

Dealt to Hero Q 6 Q 7

fold, Hero raises to $1.50, CO calls $1.50, fold, SB raises to $4.50, fold, Hero calls $3, CO calls $3

FLOP ($14) 4 5 5

SB bets $7.50, Hero raises to $35.80, 2 players left to act

Should i call IP vs the original raiser or raising/getting it in is ok?

[recallme]

Co is huge fish and i tried to isolate him a lot. SB hasn't sqeezed before but is a good 31/24 3bet 7.7 player.

Ongame Network $2/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 4 players
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CO: $297.10
Hero (BTN): $319.85
SB: $562.15
BB: $441.40

BB posts a big blind ($2)

Pre Flop: ($4.00) Hero is BTN with A K K 9
CO calls $2, Hero raises to $10, SB raises to $34, 1 fold, CO calls $32, Hero raises to $138

For 100BB i would just shove without 2nd thought.
Do you like a call better here, esp IP?

[IgnatiusJR]

No reads. Villain is 38/13. How do you play the turn? These Aces are too weak to be 3betting oop 150bb deep, right?

Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi $0.02 Ante - 6 players
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Hero (SB): $24.63
BB: $18.87
UTG: $20.64
MP: $17.85
CO: $20.11
BTN: $29.69

Pre Flop: ($0.27) Hero is SB with 6 J A A
1 fold, MP raises to $0.47, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.47, Hero calls $0.42, BB calls $0.37

Flop: ($2.00) Q 8 7 (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP bets $2, BTN folds, Hero calls $2, BB folds

Turn: ($6.00) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $5.45 Hero...?

[SeaKing]

Fold, hes obviously not bluffing and you are behind everything in his value range and are would be paying too much to see a river given your equity. Not going to spend time showing the math but even Phil Ivey couldn't play that hand profitably after villains turn bet given villains entire hand range and frequencies at which he will bet/check/(fold to bet) on all possible river cards.

Just because you had the nuts (AA**) preflop and didn't 3b and you believe your hand to be underrepresented doesn't mean that it is still the nuts postflop on any board texture and should always be taken to showdown. Just my $.02.

[Gorilla Boy]

quick check on if the 4b is good? vs solid reg, no history.


Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $2(BB) Poker Stars
SB ($315)
BB ($170)
UTG ($200)
Hero ($188)
CO ($261)
BTN ($57.30)

Dealt to Hero K 7 A A

fold, Hero raises to $6, CO raises to $21, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $66, CO calls $45

[SeaKing]

[IgnatiusJR]

Beginning of session, no reads. Are there any reasons for checking back the flop here and for flatting his c/r rather than shoving over?


Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
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SB: $19.98
BB: $11.79
UTG: $33.37
CO: $28.73
Hero (BTN): $10.00

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with 7 Q Q T
1 fold, CO calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.45, 2 folds, CO calls $0.35

Flop: ($1.05) 5 2 7 (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $0.90, CO raises to $2.10, [color=red]