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| Small Stakes PL Omaha Discussion of 1/2 and below pot-limit Omaha poker |
09-15-2009, 12:02 AM
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#271
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*
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Originally Posted by 2+2=5
villian is a fish, seems like has not much clue about the game, passive. bet turn? river fold?
Poker Stars $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked
Hero (BTN/SB): $116.90
BB: $73.15
Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN/SB with 2  3  3  A
Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2
Flop: ($6.00) J  Q  3 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB calls $4
Turn: ($14.00) J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $9, BB calls $9
River: ($32.00) 6 (2 players)
BB bets $31.50, Hero ???
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jd_poker
100% read dependant as there isn't really a valid hand that would ever take this line. I'm guessing he has Jx to make a FH most of the time though. Obv if he auto-bluffs his missed draws you want to snap this off and be happy.
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LP fish plays QJ and QQ like this surprisingly often imo. If villain is somewhat donkish/aggro I am cool with calling. If he is a pure LP fish its burning money
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09-15-2009, 12:04 AM
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#272
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*
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Originally Posted by Oink
If he is a pure LP fish
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thats exactly this villian.
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09-15-2009, 12:14 PM
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#273
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*
villian is a fish, lims button like 80%, other time minraises button. he probably thinks i'm triyng to bluff him everu hand, calls down with top pair often, drawing to the flush no matter what etc. he insta potted the river. what now?
Poker Stars $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked
BB: $92.20
Hero (BTN/SB): $214.80
Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN/SB with Q  J  J  8
Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2
Flop: ($6.00) J  K  4 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB calls $4
Turn: ($14.00) 4 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $12, BB calls $12
River: ($38.00) 4 (2 players)
BB bets $37.50, Hero ?
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09-15-2009, 12:17 PM
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#274
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*
villian is adequate. haven't seen him doing anything crazy. i played this hand awful? fold turn?
Poker Stars $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked
Hero (BTN/SB): $164.10
BB: $97.40
Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN/SB with 8  7  J  Q
Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2
Flop: ($6.00) 3  Q  Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB raises to $14, Hero calls $10 - call here? or shove?
Turn: ($34.00) 4 (2 players)
BB bets $22, Hero calls $22 call again?
River: ($78.00) 3 (2 players)
BB bets $58.40 all in, Hero calls $58.40 fish call?
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09-15-2009, 12:29 PM
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#275
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2+2=5
villian is a fish, lims button like 80%, other time minraises button. he probably thinks i'm triyng to bluff him everu hand, calls down with top pair often, drawing to the flush no matter what etc. he insta potted the river. what now?
Poker Stars $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked
BB: $92.20
Hero (BTN/SB): $214.80
Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN/SB with Q  J  J  8
Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2
Flop: ($6.00) J  K  4 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB calls $4
Turn: ($14.00) 4 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $12, BB calls $12
River: ($38.00) 4 (2 players)
BB bets $37.50, Hero ?
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I shove.
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2+2=5
villian is adequate. haven't seen him doing anything crazy. i played this hand awful? fold turn?
Poker Stars $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked
Hero (BTN/SB): $164.10
BB: $97.40
Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN/SB with 8  7  J  Q
Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2
Flop: ($6.00) 3  Q  Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB raises to $14, Hero calls $10 - call here? or shove?
Turn: ($34.00) 4 (2 players)
BB bets $22, Hero calls $22 call again?
River: ($78.00) 3 (2 players)
BB bets $58.40 all in, Hero calls $58.40 fish call?
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the river is so gay, because now we are worried about QAxx and KQxx more than Q3xx. I might fold the river, but dunno.
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09-15-2009, 05:45 PM
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#276
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*
I'm new to the table and only have 6 hands on Villain 50/33/1.6
Villain was raising full pot under the gun so put him on a high pair when, then when he full pots the flop I'm sure that he hasn't hit and wants to take down the pot. With just middle pair and bdnfd am I to weak to call his cbet, of course I dink the turn which helps.
Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked
SB: $118.95
BB: $100.00
UTG: $337.30
MP: $187.65
CO: $100.00
Hero (BTN): $100.00
CO posts a big blind ($1)
Pre Flop: ($2.50) Hero is BTN with 8  6  A  J
UTG raises to $4.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $4.50, 2 folds
Flop: ($11.50) 6  9  2 (2 players)
UTG bets $11.50, Hero calls $11.50
Turn: ($34.50) 6 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $19, UTG calls $19
River: ($72.50) K (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $65 all in, UTG calls $65
Same Villain next hand
I always get stuck on playing wheels, I call the flop cbet with the nfd and the OESD, when Villain barrels the turn I jam as I suspect if he had the nuts he would have bet smaller to keep me involved (as on the previous hand when he made 2 pair on the turn he only bet 60% pot).
Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked
BTN: $118.45
SB: $100.00
BB: $237.30
UTG: $187.65
MP: $99.00
Hero (CO): $199.50
Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is CO with 5  3  A  4
2 folds, Hero calls $1, BTN raises to $4.50, SB calls $4, BB calls $3.50, Hero calls $3.50
Flop: ($18.00) 7  6  2 (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets $18, Hero calls $18, BTN folds, SB folds
Turn: ($54.00) 5 (2 players)
BB bets $54, Hero raises to $177 all in
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09-15-2009, 05:54 PM
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#277
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old hand
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*
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Originally Posted by PipChip
Just been starting to play Omaha... this standard? thoughts? thanks...
(First hand @ the table... Shortstack has stacked off on stupid hands and is basically dead money from what ive seen. No reads on Dzah)
$0.10/$0.20 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG Dzah***4 ($30.00)
UTG+1 west***5 ($3.14)
CO kets***6 ( $21.02)
BTN Swah***7 ( $53.82)
SB omgl***8 ($54.70)
BB Hero ($20.00)
Pre-flop: ( $0.30, 6 players) Hero is BB Q  A  8  T
Dzah***4 raises to $0.70, west***5 calls $0.70, 2 folds, omgl***8 calls $0.60, Hero calls $0.50
Flop: K  6  J  ( $2.80, 4 players)
omgl***8 checks, Hero checks, Dzah***4 bets $2, west***5 goes all-in $2.44, omgl***8 folds, Hero raises to $12.12, Dzah***4 goes all-in $27.30, Hero goes all-in $7.18
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Anyone?
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09-15-2009, 06:15 PM
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#278
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*
^^ i think i just call after the shorty goes all in, no reason to raise and push Dzah out of the pot because we got all outs to the nuts and zero showdown value.
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09-15-2009, 06:21 PM
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#279
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*
I'd lead the flop PipChip.
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09-15-2009, 06:25 PM
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#280
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*
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Originally Posted by shoobri
I'm new to the table and only have 6 hands on Villain 50/33/1.6
Villain was raising full pot under the gun so put him on a high pair when, then when he full pots the flop I'm sure that he hasn't hit and wants to take down the pot. With just middle pair and bdnfd am I to weak to call his cbet, of course I dink the turn which helps.
Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked
SB: $118.95
BB: $100.00
UTG: $337.30
MP: $187.65
CO: $100.00
Hero (BTN): $100.00
CO posts a big blind ($1)
Pre Flop: ($2.50) Hero is BTN with 8  6  A  J
UTG raises to $4.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $4.50, 2 folds
Flop: ($11.50) 6  9  2 (2 players)
UTG bets $11.50, Hero calls $11.50
Turn: ($34.50) 6 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $19, UTG calls $19
River: ($72.50) K (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $65 all in, UTG calls $65
Same Villain next hand
I always get stuck on playing wheels, I call the flop cbet with the nfd and the OESD, when Villain barrels the turn I jam as I suspect if he had the nuts he would have bet smaller to keep me involved (as on the previous hand when he made 2 pair on the turn he only bet 60% pot).
Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked
BTN: $118.45
SB: $100.00
BB: $237.30
UTG: $187.65
MP: $99.00
Hero (CO): $199.50
Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is CO with 5  3  A  4
2 folds, Hero calls $1, BTN raises to $4.50, SB calls $4, BB calls $3.50, Hero calls $3.50
Flop: ($18.00) 7  6  2 (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets $18, Hero calls $18, BTN folds, SB folds
Turn: ($54.00) 5 (2 players)
BB bets $54, Hero raises to $177 all in
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1st hand i think it's a good hand to 3bet button with, although i dont play 6max but it's DOUBLESUITED!! i don't mind float that flop but i think some people will say that you have to fold flop and i think it's more right play. as played it's fine, i'd bet a bit more on the turn but it's not that inportant and ofcourse shove river for value.
2nd hand i dont really know what;s the right play here, idk maybe you should shove flop but 200bb depp i'm lost here, i'd also probably call flop, turn is  for me
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09-15-2009, 07:51 PM
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#281
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journeyman
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*
Someone just say "standard" so I can move on with my life... Villian is LP (37/3/1.8). CB size was intended to look weak. If I full pot, I am getting direct odds to call, but I didn't so...
PL Omaha $1(BB)
SB ($136)
BB ($60)
UTG ($56.50)
UTG+1 ($61.40)
UTG+2 ($102)
Hero ($117)
BTN ($54.15)
Dealt to Hero A  9  6  7
UTG calls $1, fold, fold, Hero raises to $4.50, BTN calls $4.50, fold, BB calls $3.50, fold
FLOP ($15) 6  K  2
BB checks, Hero bets $11, BTN raises to $47.25, BB folds, [color=red]Hero ? (villian is effectively all-in and I cover)
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09-15-2009, 07:54 PM
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#282
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*
^^ well once you bet the call is standard i think.
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09-15-2009, 08:10 PM
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#283
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journeyman
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*
Quote:
Originally Posted by shoobri
I always get stuck on playing wheels, I call the flop cbet with the nfd and the OESD...............
Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked
BTN: $118.45
SB: $100.00
BB: $237.30
UTG: $187.65
MP: $99.00
Hero (CO): $199.50
Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is CO with 5  3  A  4
2 folds, Hero calls $1, BTN raises to $4.50, SB calls $4, BB calls $3.50, Hero calls $3.50
Flop: ($18.00) 7  6  2 (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets $18, Hero calls $18, BTN folds, SB folds
Turn: ($54.00) 5 (2 players)
BB bets $54, Hero raises to $177 all in
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If you always get stuck on playing wheels then stop playing them. Open limping the CO after two folds is fishtastic. You have considerably more than the nfd and an OESD.
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09-15-2009, 08:51 PM
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#284
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journeyman
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*
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Originally Posted by 2+2=5
^^ well once you bet the call is standard i think.
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CB not so good though ?
-wm
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09-15-2009, 11:48 PM
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#285
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banned
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*
Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked
BTN: $60.10
Hero (SB): $46.15
BB: $9.66
UTG: $27.82
MP: $30.76
CO: $17.67
Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with Q  2  A  K
UTG raises to $0.85, 1 fold, CO calls $0.85, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.75, BB calls $0.60
Flop: ($3.40) J  A  A (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, CO checks
Turn: ($3.40) 6 (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets $2.60, CO folds, Hero calls $2.60, BB folds
River: ($8.60) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $7.50, Hero requests TIME, Hero?
Villain seems TAGish/solid. Anyone folding here?
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