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[Doorbread]

ship both, feel good

[-RobinHood-]

sry but I'm not that good with pot-odds etc.

against Aces in Hand 1:

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation

600,000 trials (Randomized)

board: T52

Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
KhTsQsJd	35.55%	212,662	1,230
AA**	64.45%	386,108	1,230

so what pot odds do we need to be +ev to get it in here ??

[Olangotang]

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $0.10(BB) Poker Stars
SB ($4.61)
Hero ($22.22)
UTG ($9.70)
UTG+1 ($10.37)
CO ($12.50)
BTN ($11.15)

Dealt to Hero 4 A 6 A

fold, UTG+1 calls $0.10, CO raises to $0.45, fold, SB calls $0.40, Hero raises to $1.90, fold, CO calls $1.45, SB calls $1.45

FLOP ($5.80) Q 8 4

SB bets $2.71 (AI), Hero calls $2.71, CO raises to $10.60 (AI), Hero folds

TURN ($13.93) Q 8 4 6

RIVER ($13.93) Q 8 4 6 Q

CO shows J K 9 T
(Pre 64%, Flop 29.6%, Turn 18.8%)

SB shows T 9 Q 8
(Pre 36%, Flop 70.4%, Turn 81.3%)

SB wins $13.25

co is kindof taggish... do we have to callo off his shove? our hand is so poor multi way...

[ivev]

dont call sb, just shove yourself. Calling invites CO to shove because you look so weak and with the odds he´s getting he can pretty much shove if he has any piece of the flop. This flop also has a very low risk that co wakes up with a monster after you shove.

[Olangotang]

Originally Posted by ivev

dont call sb, just shove yourself. Calling invites CO to shove because you look so weak and with the odds he´s getting he can pretty much shove if he has any piece of the flop. This flop is also very safe in regards to co waking up with a monster after you shove.

sb is all in so its not like the fact that we look weak means he is gonna shove more, he's still folding all his crap and shoving hands that do well multi way.... like us shoving doesnt change the range he wouldve called/shoved with.. and our hand does awful vs his calling range esp. in multi way pot..

[Olangotang]

Another ugly spot I think I missplayed

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $0.10(BB) Poker Stars
SB ($11.29)
BB ($10.65)
UTG ($20.12)
UTG+1 ($10.95)
Hero ($13.01)
BTN ($19.26)

Dealt to Hero 5 8 7 6

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.35, BTN calls $0.35, fold, fold

FLOP ($0.85) 6 9 A

Hero bets $0.60, BTN calls $0.60

TURN ($2.05) 6 9 A Q

Hero bets $1.20, BTN calls $1.20

RIVER ($4.45) 6 9 A Q 5

Hero bets $3, BTN raises to $9.90, Hero folds

BTN wins $9.94

was hoping he's hero call me as my line looks FOS, looking back think I should have c/c river, thoughts?

Villain is tag reg, prolly sees me as solid/aggro

[phillydilly]

Overall I play this entire hand more aggressively.you didn't crush the flop, but you caught a nice piece, I'd come out firing on the flop and turn.

[Olangotang]

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $0.10(BB) Poker Stars
SB ($10)
BB ($16.39)
UTG ($3.60)
UTG+1 ($7.99)
Hero ($20.56)
BTN ($10.14)

Dealt to Hero 8 A 5 5

UTG calls $0.10, fold, Hero raises to $0.45, fold, SB calls $0.40, fold, UTG calls $0.35

FLOP ($1.45) 9 4 T

SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $1.30, SB folds, UTG calls $1.30

TURN ($4.05) 9 4 T 4

UTG checks, Hero checks

RIVER ($4.05) 9 4 T 4 T

UTG bets $1.85 (AI), Hero calls $1.85

UTG shows Q 8 5 J
(Pre 47%, Flop 41.1%, Turn 42.5%)

Hero shows 8 A 5 5
(Pre 53%, Flop 58.9%, Turn 57.5%)

Hero wins $7.38

standard hero call or losing play in long run? just feel any pair he's getting in on flop... he's repping a 10 pretty much, guess its super standard meh

[ivev]

Originally Posted by Olangotang

sb is all in so its not like the fact that we look weak means he is gonna shove more, he's still folding all his crap and shoving hands that do well multi way.... like us shoving doesnt change the range he wouldve called/shoved with.. and our hand does awful vs his calling range esp. in multi way pot..

Sorry but no. Just look at what he shoved? You think he calls 100bb with 9 outs + backdoors at best? Seriously, it changes everything if he´s aggro, because when you call he figures he has fold equity. And sb being all in is great for co after you call.

[Olangotang]

Originally Posted by ivev

Sorry but no. Just look at what he shoved? You think he calls 100bb with 9 outs + backdoors at best? Seriously, it changes everything if he´s aggro, because when you call he figures he has fold equity. And sb being all in is great for co after you call.

fair point mate, guess I played it really bad :/

[Jever]

Hello, sorry, if this really low, but I can't win at higher stakes. (And neither at 10PLO.^^)


Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked

CO: $17.86
BTN: $10.14
SB: $10.00
BB: $10.00
UTG: $13.99
Hero (MP): $10.00

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is MP with A 8 7 A
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.35, 2 folds, SB calls $0.30, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.80) 7 8 2 (2 players)
SB bets $0.76, Hero calls $0.76

Turn: ($2.32) 9 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.95, SB calls $1.95

River: ($6.22) 5 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn bet ok?

Villain is 40/20/20% Agg%/25% Donkbet Flop

[Jever]

Oh, and raise flop?

[tercet]

Villian seems taggy/nitty at 20/10 over 50~ hands at table, Whats optimal line on turn?

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked

Hero (BB): $11.18
UTG: $9.04
MP: $8.90
CO: $22.13
BTN: $6.04
SB: $25.72

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with 6 A J A
2 folds, CO raises to $0.30, BTN calls $0.30, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.25, CO calls $0.95, BTN calls $0.95

Flop: ($3.80) 5 5 3 (3 players)
Hero bets $2.60, CO calls $2.60, BTN folds

Turn: ($9.00) 7 (2 players)
Hero ? (7.33)

[redCashion]

Poker Stars $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked

Hero (BTN/SB): $259.50
BB: $136.30

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BTN/SB with A 3 8 2
Hero calls $1, BB raises to $6, Hero calls $4

Flop: ($12.00) 6 8 8 (2 players)
BB bets $11.50, Hero calls $11.50

Turn: ($35.00) 5 (2 players)
BB checks, [color=red]Hero?

This is a standard check back vs most aggro opponents, correct?

[realmaniac]

Originally Posted by redCashion

Poker Stars $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked

Hero (BTN/SB): $259.50
BB: $136.30

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BTN/SB with A 3 8 2
Hero calls $1, BB raises to $6, Hero calls $4

Flop: ($12.00) 6 8 8 (2 players)
BB bets $11.50, Hero calls $11.50

Turn: ($35.00) 5 (2 players)
BB checks, [color=red]Hero?

This is a standard check back vs most aggro opponents, correct?

no

i mean its hu so its really flow / read depending. but i'd say he would continue betting with a hand that has u beat so i would just value bet your trips tk