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[snark]

Originally Posted by 40-80

Villain was pretty passive in 3-bet pots. Thought I had either zero or very little fold equity with villain either turning two pair or flopping a set. Villain has $33.20 behind after I called turn bet. I was planning to ship anything that completed my flush/straight and c/f any brick. Is that fine or do you just get it in on turn?

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
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BTN/SB: $73.70
Hero (BB): $84.10

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with 9 6 T 8
BTN/SB raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $4.50, BTN/SB calls $3

Flop: ($9.00) 7 5 Q (2 players)
Hero bets $5.50, BTN/SB calls $5.50

Turn: ($20.00) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $12.50, BTN/SB raises to $30.50, Hero calls $18

bet more on flop, like 7.5-8. bet more on turn, like 17-18. as played, shove turn, the pot is already big (62.50), he only has 30 left, it's only 48 more to to win 157, so u only need 31% equity, which u almost always have unless he has a set and picked up a better fd on the turn. against just sets/2pairs u are 40%. also, u don't know if he'll pay you off 100% of the time u just call and shove river when u make your hand, so shoving now is better.

Omaha Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
board: Qd 7h 5c 2c Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
9c 6c Th 8d 40.64% 242,707 2,314
QQ**,77**,55**,Q2**,Q7**,Q5** 59.36%

[Buck Duffy]

superstandard at Rush25?

Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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BB: $26.70
Hero (UTG): $84.09
MP: $15.00
CO: $14.20
BTN: $38.86
SB: $7.58

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with 9 A 7 A
Hero raises to $0.85, 1 fold, CO calls $0.85, 2 folds, BB calls $0.60

Flop: ($2.65) 4 J T (3 players)
BB bets $2.65, Hero raises to $10.60, CO folds, BB raises to $25.85 all in, Hero calls $15.25

[Wools]

Originally Posted by Buck Duffy

superstandard at Rush25?

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BB: $26.70
Hero (UTG): $84.09
MP: $15.00
CO: $14.20
BTN: $38.86
SB: $7.58

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with 9 A 7 A
Hero raises to $0.85, 1 fold, CO calls $0.85, 2 folds, BB calls $0.60

Flop: ($2.65) 4 J T (3 players)
BB bets $2.65, Hero raises to $10.60, CO folds, BB raises to $25.85 all in, Hero calls $15.25

You definitely cant raise/fold, so yeah, after you raise, standard imo.

You still end up having ~32% equity vs KQJJ with 2 club blockers in a worst case scenario and vs most other likely holdings you're between 40 and 60%. I'm not fist pumpin', but we cant fold imo.

[Buck Duffy]

I guess I meant more of...is the flop raise standard? When he donked, I intuitively said to myself, he's got a set, which they often do at PLO25 here. Depending on how often he has the set, I'm likely flipping with his range. With the third player in the hand, I thought of calling to invite him in if he had something.

[Pokyrys]

Villain was pretty aggro (32/23/3bet 15%... not many hands but anyway), so I think 4bet here is good. We get 40% of the stack in.

Flop is meh but we have less than pot left. is this ok?


Entraction $20.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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SB: $60.15
BB: $20.00
UTG: $20.00
Hero (MP): $25.75
CO: $20.00
BTN: $76.06

Pre Flop: ($0.30) Hero is MP with A K K T
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.70, CO calls $0.70, BTN raises to $3.10, 2 folds, Hero raises to $10.30, 1 fold, BTN calls $7.20

Flop: ($21.60) 7 8 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $15.45

[Doorbread]

Originally Posted by 40-80

Villain was pretty passive in 3-bet pots. Thought I had either zero or very little fold equity with villain either turning two pair or flopping a set. Villain has $33.20 behind after I called turn bet. I was planning to ship anything that completed my flush/straight and c/f any brick. Is that fine or do you just get it in on turn?

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
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BTN/SB: $73.70
Hero (BB): $84.10

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with 9 6 T 8
BTN/SB raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $4.50, BTN/SB calls $3

Flop: ($9.00) 7 5 Q (2 players)
Hero bets $5.50, BTN/SB calls $5.50

Turn: ($20.00) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $12.50, BTN/SB raises to $30.50, Hero calls $18

Originally Posted by snark

bet more on flop, like 7.5-8. bet more on turn, like 17-18. as played, shove turn, the pot is already big (62.50), he only has 30 left, it's only 48 more to to win 157, so u only need 31% equity, which u almost always have unless he has a set and picked up a better fd on the turn. against just sets/2pairs u are 40%. also, u don't know if he'll pay you off 100% of the time u just call and shove river when u make your hand, so shoving now is better.

Omaha Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
board: Qd 7h 5c 2c Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
9c 6c Th 8d 40.64% 242,707 2,314
QQ**,77**,55**,Q2**,Q7**,Q5** 59.36%

This but just call

[Sh1LLa]

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $1(BB) Replayer
SB ($109)
BB ($92)
CO ($197)
Hero ($156)

Dealt to Hero T 6 7 Q

CO raises to $3.50, Hero calls $3.50, SB raises to $10, fold, CO calls $6.50, Hero calls $6.50

FLOP ($31) 7 5 4

SB bets $29.45, CO folds, Hero raises to $110, SB calls $69.75 (AI)

he's been playing a few orbits, 80ish VPIP, passive otherwise, his first 3bet. superduperstandard hm?

[Buck Duffy]

Originally Posted by Sh1LLa

he's been playing a few orbits, 80ish VPIP, passive otherwise, his first 3bet. superduperstandard hm?

std postflop as played. 3b pre though.

[Sh1LLa]

Originally Posted by Buck Duffy

std postflop as played. 3b pre though.

mm ye. 1 more question. how does he have J986s there?

[rubixxcube]

Anybody not shoving turn? not much info on villian, not much for him to have on this board either.
Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
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CO: $49.90
BTN: $52.35
SB: $70.20
Hero (BB): $40.95
UTG: $9.40

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with 9 7 8 J
1 fold, CO raises to $1.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $1

Flop: ($3.25) 5 6 T (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $2, Hero calls $2

Turn: ($7.25) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $3.50, Hero raises to $16, CO raises to $46.40 all in, Hero calls $21.45 all in

[arun82]

^^^ I wouldn't shove turn. Don't have flush draw, and some of your straight outs aren't to the nuts. He could easily have a broadway straight draw with a flush draw.

[arun82]

Ok, so I know stacking off with top set is standard, but is it so even on a wet board against 3-way action?

Party Poker $25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
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SB: $24.66
Hero (BB): $90.12
UTG: $23.90
CO: $38.84
BTN: $13.95

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with 4 J A J
UTG calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25, BTN raises to $1.35, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.10, UTG calls $1.10, CO calls $1.10

Flop: ($5.50) J T 6 (4 players)
Hero bets $5.23, UTG raises to $20.92, CO raises to $37.49 all in, BTN folds, Hero raises to $88.77 all in, UTG calls $1.63 all in

[Sh1LLa]

yes. very much so. afaik u're around a third of the time gonna boat up which is usually good. u might not have the best equity but i'd be very surprised if it's below what you need.
there are situations where i prefer seeing a blank turn before the money goes in but this certainly isn't one of them.

[Alea]

I filtered my results for 3bet = true. I am breakeven over 4k hands, running a little under EV. Is this the sign a huge leak, because I should be making loads on my 3bets?

[Alea]

I just checked again and I'm 10k below EV, I missed a zero. So forget my pervious post.