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Old 08-26-2009, 06:21 AM   #1
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*~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

This works well in HUNL, see here.

Post all action, don't post results.

Post hands here that you are almost certain you played correctly but just need confirmation so you can get rid of that tiny little bit of doubt in your mind. Preferably these are hands that require a simple "wp", "good line", etc. kind of reply. Leave strat discussion to a minimum or it might make this thread very confusing if it does take off. Post only complete hand histories (without results). If replies seem to show that your hand really isn't as standard as you thought it to be, you could always just post a separate strat thread.

This can be hands you lost even though you think you played correctly.

Or it can be just be confirming that your line was standard regardless of results.

The point of this thread is so that you can post super simple or super standard spots that you feel don't really require its own thread. I've personally felt so stupid to post some of the hands I had slight doubts on because they were so standard that I just ignored them, leaving the doubts still bothering me for a while. I'm sure some of you have felt this way before too.

SNG, tournament and cash hands all welcomed.

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Old 08-26-2009, 07:30 AM   #2
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

Alright, I'm willing to give this a shot and see if this type of thread works out.

Probably a good space for anyone who wanted to post a "standard" spot in the low contend thread. so keep those hands out of there and post them here instead.
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Old 08-26-2009, 08:14 AM   #3
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

I'll contribute!


Villain was decently aggressive, especially on the button. Haven't seen much else of him though. His Turn Aggression freq. was 50% btw. He's seen me 3betting more than AA in this session.

Flop is very standard I guess. Turn is an easy call? He's repping a very narrow range on the turn, and I've still got plenty of equity against 75**.


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SB: $29.75
Hero (BB): $136.25
CO: $28.60
BTN: $78.25

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with 7 A 9 6
1 fold, BTN raises to $1.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $4.75, BTN calls $3.25

Flop: ($9.75) A 6 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $7.50, BTN calls $7.50

Turn: ($24.75) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $18.00, BTN raises to $66, Hero calls $48
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Old 08-26-2009, 09:23 AM   #4
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

good idea jd, and nh to MarbleArch
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Old 08-26-2009, 09:28 AM   #5
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

MA looks good for a turn shove. Vs a very agro opponent I can see a c/r on the turn.
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Old 08-26-2009, 09:57 AM   #6
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

Poker Stars $10.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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Hero (BTN): $28.40
SB: $5.25
BB: $8.70
UTG: $15.90
MP: $10.00
CO: $15.20

MP posts a big blind ($0.10)

Pre Flop: ($0.25) Hero is BTN with 5 A 4 K
1 fold, MP checks, CO raises to $0.45, Hero calls $0.45, 1 fold, BB calls $0.35, MP calls $0.35

Flop: ($1.85) T 7 J (4 players)
BB bets $1.80, MP folds, CO raises to $7.20, Hero folds


FWIW, I think this is *close*; without the gutshot I'd muck this every time.
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Old 08-26-2009, 10:00 AM   #7
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

Full Tilt Poker $200.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 4 players
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BB: $217.60
CO: $100.00
BTN: $1293.60
Hero (SB): $400.00

CO posts a big blind ($2.00)

Pre Flop: ($5.00) Hero is SB with J A 7 A
CO checks, 1 fold, Hero calls $1, BB checks

Flop: ($6.00) A 7 J (3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $6.00, CO folds, Hero raises to $21, BB calls $15

Turn: ($48.00) 8 (2 players)
Hero ??

Villian is 31/22 reg with agg of 5

Think its a pretty std pot, but just wanted to double check.
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Old 08-26-2009, 10:33 AM   #8
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

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Full Tilt Poker $200.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 4 players
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BB: $217.60
CO: $100.00
BTN: $1293.60
Hero (SB): $400.00

CO posts a big blind ($2.00)

Pre Flop: ($5.00) Hero is SB with J A 7 A
CO checks, 1 fold, Hero calls $1, BB checks

Flop: ($6.00) A 7 J (3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $6.00, CO folds, Hero raises to $21, BB calls $15

Turn: ($48.00) 8 (2 players)
Hero ??

Villian is 31/22 reg with agg of 5

Think its a pretty std pot, but just wanted to double check.
I am raising preflop, our hand is too strong to limp imo and limpers are weak in general, so cbets take it down a lot.

I like your flop raise size given villains aggroness.
On the turn I am debating a c/r, given that villain is so aggro and T98x is not the biggest part of his range.
I think I would check the turn to let him hang himself, I dont think betting accomplishes that much.

Hmm just saw that you got J7 in your hand, was focusing too much on topset, hmm, this is really close, because now his range is heavily weighted towards wraps, one of which just got there.

And Banana could you rename the title to ***Official ...***, I the "*~*" is tilting the hell outta me.
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Old 08-26-2009, 10:37 AM   #9
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

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Poker Stars $10.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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Hero (BTN): $28.40
SB: $5.25
BB: $8.70
UTG: $15.90
MP: $10.00
CO: $15.20

MP posts a big blind ($0.10)

Pre Flop: ($0.25) Hero is BTN with 5 A 4 K
1 fold, MP checks, CO raises to $0.45, Hero calls $0.45, 1 fold, BB calls $0.35, MP calls $0.35

Flop: ($1.85) T 7 J (4 players)
BB bets $1.80, MP folds, CO raises to $7.20, Hero folds


FWIW, I think this is *close*; without the gutshot I'd muck this every time.
You cant muck there imo. I would definitely call the flop raise, because there is a chance the other guy is coming along and vs 98** your equity is 45%.
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Old 08-26-2009, 11:22 AM   #10
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

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Full Tilt Poker $200.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 4 players
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BB: $217.60
CO: $100.00
BTN: $1293.60
Hero (SB): $400.00

CO posts a big blind ($2.00)

Pre Flop: ($5.00) Hero is SB with J A 7 A
CO checks, 1 fold, Hero calls $1, BB checks

Flop: ($6.00) A 7 J (3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $6.00, CO folds, Hero raises to $21, BB calls $15

Turn: ($48.00) 8 (2 players)
Hero ??

Villian is 31/22 reg with agg of 5

Think its a pretty std pot, but just wanted to double check.
I check/raise this turn. That way you will get an extra bet from broadway wraps that haven't got there and random air he decided to float you with. Bet/calling let's him play perfectly - unless he is aggro enough that a small turn bet will induce a shove from draws/worse.
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Old 08-26-2009, 11:45 AM   #11
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

Thanks for the advice, i check shoved the turn, and ran into the straight but meh. Happy with the way it was played.
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Old 08-26-2009, 12:07 PM   #12
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Thanks for the advice, i check shoved the turn, and ran into the straight but meh. Happy with the way it was played.
UL, I definitely think it was the right play and you were obviously ahead.
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Old 08-26-2009, 09:59 PM   #13
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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Hero (CO): $116.50
BTN: $17.95
SB: $100.85
BB: $184.20
UTG: $23.50
MP: $51.35

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is CO with A 5 8 A
UTG calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.25, BTN calls $2.25, 2 folds, UTG calls $1.75

Flop: ($7.50) 2 K Q (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $7.15, UTG folds, Hero raises to $20, BTN calls $8.55 all in

Turn: ($38.90) 8 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($38.90) 5 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Spoiler:


villain is 77/42 with a 8% 3bet but only bet 28% of flops so he's not totally crazy



Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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MP: $137.95
CO: $50.00
BTN: $55.10
SB: $50.00
Hero (BB): $50.00
UTG: $41.70

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with 9 Q T 8
4 folds, SB raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $4.50, SB calls $3

Flop: ($9.00) 6 8 T (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $6.50 planning to get it in ???
villain is 46/22 with AF of 2



villain same as first hand
Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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Hero (SB): $50.95
BB: $111.70
UTG: $104.25
MP: $152.80
CO: $28.00
BTN: $50.85

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with K Q J 9
4 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, BB calls $1

Flop: ($3.00) Q 7 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $2.50, BB calls $2.50

Turn: ($8.00) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $6, BB calls $6

River: ($20.00) J (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $14, Hero calls $14

Spoiler:
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Old 08-26-2009, 10:14 PM   #14
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

correct fold? just cheking am i tilting or not

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
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Hero (BB): $102.70
BTN/SB: $141.05

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with Q K K 9
BTN/SB raises to $3, Hero raises to $9, BTN/SB calls $6

Flop: ($18.00) 4 5 A (2 players)
Hero bets $14, BTN/SB raises to $55, Hero folds

Final Pot: $46.00
BTN/SB wins $45.50
(Rake: $0.50)
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Old 08-26-2009, 10:26 PM   #15
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

idk I've seen too many stupid things in 3bet pots HU to fold a nfd and probable set outs.
what is player like?
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Old 08-26-2009, 11:01 PM   #16
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Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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Hero (CO): $116.50
BTN: $17.95
SB: $100.85
BB: $184.20
UTG: $23.50
MP: $51.35

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is CO with A 5 8 A
UTG calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.25, BTN calls $2.25, 2 folds, UTG calls $1.75

Flop: ($7.50) 2 K Q (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $7.15, UTG folds, Hero raises to $20, BTN calls $8.55 all in

Turn: ($38.90) 8 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($38.90) 5 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Spoiler:


villain is 77/42 with a 8% 3bet but only bet 28% of flops so he's not totally crazy



Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP: $137.95
CO: $50.00
BTN: $55.10
SB: $50.00
Hero (BB): $50.00
UTG: $41.70

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with 9 Q T 8
4 folds, SB raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $4.50, SB calls $3

Flop: ($9.00) 6 8 T (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $6.50 planning to get it in ???
villain is 46/22 with AF of 2



villain same as first hand
Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (SB): $50.95
BB: $111.70
UTG: $104.25
MP: $152.80
CO: $28.00
BTN: $50.85

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with K Q J 9
4 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, BB calls $1

Flop: ($3.00) Q 7 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $2.50, BB calls $2.50

Turn: ($8.00) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $6, BB calls $6

River: ($20.00) J (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $14, Hero calls $14

Spoiler:

i'm okey with shove here vs 34bb stack, but i might be wrong as allways. i'd def ship it in a HU vs shortstack.
hand 2: its close i think, at first glance i thought getting it in on a such a board with top two is horrible, but we got gutter with our top two, it's like minimum 9 clean outs+ 2 BDFD, so we are 42% dog vs naked straight and we flipping vs bottom set, i think i'd ship that
hand 3 is meh... i dont know... his cheking back all the hands that has any show down value on the river, what kind of hands is it make sense for him to turn in to a bluff? maybe 69 or 56
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Old 08-26-2009, 11:22 PM   #17
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

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correct fold? just cheking am i tilting or not

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
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Hero (BB): $102.70
BTN/SB: $141.05

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with Q K K 9
BTN/SB raises to $3, Hero raises to $9, BTN/SB calls $6

Flop: ($18.00) 4 5 A (2 players)
Hero bets $14, BTN/SB raises to $55, Hero folds

Final Pot: $46.00
BTN/SB wins $45.50
(Rake: $0.50)
Unless he calls his draws and is not a bit retarded I shove all day long... So many draws out there, u have the best or/and the best draw here often...
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Old 08-27-2009, 06:03 AM   #18
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

villain is passive and fishy 55/5/1.8 af (1.7 turn


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PL Omaha $2(BB) Replayer
SB ($184)
Hero ($200)
UTG ($381)
CO ($209)
BTN ($411)

Dealt to Hero K Q A A

fold, fold, BTN calls $2, SB calls $1, Hero raises to $8, BTN calls $6, SB calls $6

FLOP ($24) 2 9 6

SB checks, Hero bets $20, BTN folds, SB calls $20

TURN ($64) 2 9 6 2

[color=red]SB bets $46, Hero
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Old 08-27-2009, 07:03 AM   #19
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villain is passive and fishy 55/5/1.8 af (1.7 turn


Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $2(BB) Replayer
SB ($184)
Hero ($200)
UTG ($381)
CO ($209)
BTN ($411)

Dealt to Hero K Q A A

fold, fold, BTN calls $2, SB calls $1, Hero raises to $8, BTN calls $6, SB calls $6

FLOP ($24) 2 9 6

SB checks, Hero bets $20, BTN folds, SB calls $20

TURN ($64) 2 9 6 2

[color=red]SB bets $46, Hero
He'd have to be really nitty and face-up post-flop for me to not just ship one of the best turn cards for you. Don't think he'd play a set or 2 pair like this, and he's not going to be calling the flop with a 2 very often. He could easily be bluffing or trying to set the price on the turn with a draw.
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Old 08-27-2009, 07:49 AM   #20
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

There is just way too may hands to respond here. Not all plays are standard wp etc, and any reasonable response takes a bunch of time.

maybe a :TAG: idea would be better i:e tagging your titles

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Old 08-27-2009, 10:28 AM   #21
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

*******
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******* ATTENTION THOSE POSTING HANDS IN THIS THREAD ********
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You aren't doing it right. Look below for examples of good and bad hands to post.

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Hero (SB): $50.95
BB: $111.70
UTG: $104.25
MP: $152.80
CO: $28.00
BTN: $50.85

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with K Q J 9
4 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, BB calls $1

Flop: ($3.00) Q 7 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $2.50, BB calls $2.50

Turn: ($8.00) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $6, BB calls $6

River: ($20.00) J (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $14, Hero calls $14

Spoiler:


This is a great hand to post, and exactly what we are looking for here. A complete hand history, and the question "I played this whole hand right, didn't I?". People can give a quick yes/no and if no suggest an alternate line.



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villain is passive and fishy 55/5/1.8 af (1.7 turn


Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $2(BB) Replayer
SB ($184)
Hero ($200)
UTG ($381)
CO ($209)
BTN ($411)

Dealt to Hero K Q A A

fold, fold, BTN calls $2, SB calls $1, Hero raises to $8, BTN calls $6, SB calls $6

FLOP ($24) 2 9 6

SB checks, Hero bets $20, BTN folds, SB calls $20

TURN ($64) 2 9 6 2

[color=red]SB bets $46, Hero

This is not a great post. It's not that it isn't worthy of discussion, but it isn't what we are looking for here. There is a decision point in this hand, as posted ; "How do I play this hand from here?" is not the question we are trying to address itt. Responses get too invovled and the thread will turn into a cluster**** debate.

See the HUNL thread for examples of the TYPE OF HAND to post.

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Old 08-27-2009, 12:12 PM   #22
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

hero SB/BTN: $55
villain BB: $60

hero T986

hero raises to $1.50
BB calls

flop ($3.00) 872
BB checks
hero bets $3.00
BB raises to $6.00
hero calls $3.00

turn ($15.00) 872K
BB bets $15.00
hero calls $15.00

river ($45.00) 872K5
BB checks
hero bets $27.50 (all-in)
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Old 08-27-2009, 01:01 PM   #23
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

is it ok? villian 3 bets a lot c-bets all the time.

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Hero (BTN/SB): $111.70
BB: $87.50

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN/SB with A 3 J 8
Hero raises to $3, BB raises to $9, Hero calls $6

Flop: ($18.00) 4 K 5 (2 players)
BB bets $15, Hero raises to $62.50, BB raises to $78.50 all in, Hero calls $16
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Old 08-27-2009, 01:06 PM   #24
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

anyone plays is different?

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BB: $96.65
Hero (BTN/SB): $133.20

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN/SB with K 3 T 9
Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6.00) K 3 2 (2 players)
BB bets $5, Hero raises to $20.70, BB raises to $67.80, Hero raises to $130.20 all in, BB calls $25.85 all in

Turn: ($193.30) 6 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($193.30) 9 (2 players - 2 are all in)
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Old 08-27-2009, 01:27 PM   #25
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2+2 I like the first, the second might be a bit spewy against a lot of opponents but fine against some - depends on his donkbetting range and frequency.
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