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08-27-2016 , 08:37 AM
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Hey, the mate recognized me from the forums on PLO5 zoom! :O You played well, though I bluffed you on that dry board.

Here's the next hand of how lightly people stack off. Although looking back at it I played as quite horribly (been drinking beers all day today; -6 BI 4 under EV to + 1.5 after this hand).

But please do comment on the hand, I took the effort to humiliate myself by sharing it

http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-h...737_E2D5320C5E

EDIT: forgot how embedding works from imgur. The link to it is here http://imgur.com/a/oUKCN I believe my post has some substance. I just feel proud that I didn't tilt at all and recovered playing quite well for PLO5.

What I wanted to clarify, is how would you have played the hand on PLO5?
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08-27-2016 , 12:16 PM
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As villain I fold pre, call flop as played, check turn as played, fold turn as played

As hero I 3bet pre and press the pot button any time it's my turn on this runout
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08-27-2016 , 12:21 PM
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As villain I fold pre, call flop as played, check turn as played, fold turn as played

As hero I 3bet pre and press the pot button any time it's my turn on this runout
How wide are you 3betting BB vs. BTN? Like 20-30%?
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08-27-2016 , 01:14 PM
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Although question is not to me I insist on answering. I donk like to 3b oop with hands that are so obvious once you hit, but overall badish OOP. I forgot to mention villian is marked by me as really agro. I'd probably fold it against 10/10, cause I won't make any money even if I hit.
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08-27-2016 , 01:30 PM
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How wide are you 3betting BB vs. BTN? Like 20-30%?

I 3-bet button opens 20% not sure how wide he does.


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Although question is not to me I insist on answering. I donk like to 3b oop with hands that are so obvious once you hit, but overall badish OOP. I forgot to mention villian is marked by me as really agro. I'd probably fold it against 10/10, cause I won't make any money even if I hit.
This is just an absurd statement and wrong on many levels and very lol worthy. It's a slam dunk 3-bet against a button open and I would probably always 3-bet it as well from CO and button. If you ever would fold this hand I don't even know....
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08-27-2016 , 01:40 PM
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This is just an absurd statement and wrong on many levels and very lol worthy. It's a slam dunk 3-bet against a button open and I would probably always 3-bet it as well from CO and button. If you ever would fold this hand I don't even know....
Harsh man, but what stakes are you playing?
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08-27-2016 , 01:56 PM
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How wide are you 3betting BB vs. BTN? Like 20-30%?
This hand is one that would belong in an 8% 3-betting range.
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08-27-2016 , 02:42 PM
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Guys, I believe its entirely stakes & HUD/reads dependent! To quote big lebowski, "am I wrong am I wrong"? how could you 3b 10/10 guy with this OOP? what are u expecting to hit and be paid? flush/FD and get 0 value against his AA-QQ?

Now I'm surely ahead this agro range OOP, but if I take the iniciative he will fold worse on A, K high boards. This way I create an illusion he is in control and can barrel me off, which he did.

Against thinking opponents in PLO50+ its a different story.
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08-27-2016 , 06:44 PM
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Harsh man
Well he's correct. I don't always 3-bet it otb or c/o because it depends on people behind but folding it is lol worthy.
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08-27-2016 , 08:15 PM
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This hand is one that would belong in an 8% 3-betting range.
Wow I didn't realize it was so strong, thanks!
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08-27-2016 , 08:22 PM
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Harsh man, but what stakes are you playing?
Not trying to flame you, I was giving complete 100% constructive criticism, might not have come out the best.

The stakes that I play has nothing to do with anything. I've put hundreds of hours this year in study, I let what i find there do the talking not what stakes I play. There are plenty of players here who are better than me and they would have corrected a while ago if I was spouting bs.

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Well he's correct. I don't always 3-bet it otb or c/o because it depends on people behind but folding it is lol worthy.
I probably overdid it on the 3-bet percentage but I still 3-bet that a lot in position.
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08-28-2016 , 01:14 AM
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Not trying to flame you, I was giving complete 100% constructive criticism, might not have come out the best.

The stakes that I play has nothing to do with anything. I've put hundreds of hours this year in study, I let what i find there do the talking not what stakes I play. There are plenty of players here who are better than me and they would have corrected a while ago if I was spouting bs.



I probably overdid it on the 3-bet percentage but I still 3-bet that a lot in position.
Hundreds of hours??? Really???
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08-28-2016 , 04:09 AM
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I don't see how that's unbelievable. I'm sure I've put in at least 201+ hours of study between videos, reviewing sessions, studying OO, reading books/articles, getting coached, talking with others about strategy. It's only < 1 hour/day at this point. I wouldn't be surprised if I've put in 500+ hours of effort into studying plo. I'm quite a procrastinater though and study a lot more than I play.
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08-28-2016 , 12:58 PM
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I don't see how that's unbelievable. I'm sure I've put in at least 201+ hours of study between videos, reviewing sessions, studying OO, reading books/articles, getting coached, talking with others about strategy. It's only < 1 hour/day at this point. I wouldn't be surprised if I've put in 500+ hours of effort into studying plo. I'm quite a procrastinater though and study a lot more than I play.
1 solid hour per day is a big commitment but certainly believable. I myself dedicate at least 1 solid hour to pornogrpahy.
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