+1 million

Not any site. Ongame (also owned by Amaya, mind you!) definitely isn't trying to do it in ring games (except for high volume losing players, who are rare).

they are doing it for high volume lossers?
how are they doing it??

regards

It's only a hypothesis; you can only test it on yourself by playing a lot of cash on Ongame while losing a lot and comparing your player points (based on the Essence model) to what's awarded to an 'average' player (3.6 times the contributed rake in $).

Still, I think you're good enough to be awarded less than 3 points per $ of rake.

Ongame has been punishing winning players as far as rakeback goes for years.

might explain why ongame's dead

Good point apo.

Sounds like a contradiction. If you as a strong winning reg play Zoom only for the VPPs not the winrate, it seems the rake factor is to big in these games. Obvs also based on the winrate charts in Zoom games posted.

You mean a big pre-RB winner at midstakes shouldn't care about SNE? Or you think rake is too high at Zoom500?

I mean your last sentence is a contradiction with your first statement about playing Zoom for VPPs.

If you play Zoom500 for the VPPs its a good sign its to high rake there.

I feel that I can achieve both a solid winrate and SNE, but admittedly it's my first try at it. If someone thinks it's a bad idea, you can still try to talk me out of it, lol

Don't think anyone plays Zoom500 for SNE because they feel the rake is too big, they just wanna boost their winnings. At PLO50 Zoom making Supernova is clearly a significant portion of your winrate because of the rake.

Since the instauration of the capped amount of table, there as been more and more table blocking, someone sitting out as soon as you join. It usually takes ~ 1 minute before he get booted off. What are your policy on the matter ? Is this allowed ? I feel that people do this to discourage you from taking their table.

GGaTJ how much do you rake /100 at Zoom500? $35/100?

Is the rake always too big in PLO? It certainly seems that way from reading all these forum posts.

Those 50plo stats are really shocking if they are true, there is actually nobody winning.

Paatrick_129, calling fish to HU table. Disgusting work ethics.

This is a reasonable question.

Pokerstars reps in PLO forums have asked us to go and ask Bryan about PLO MTT request. -->

***OFFICIAL Stars 2014 MTT Discussion Thread***

On a sidenote Pokerstars reps have told me they would launch the regular Sunday PLO MTT during PLO week. So I assume they are gonna run it every week from now, but obvs best if a Pokerstars rep confirm that.


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Nick can you adress MichaJ and also:

I was told a regular Sunday PLO mtt would be launched in Omaha week.

A) Is this 82$ PLO tournament gonna be regular every Sunday?
B) Have you absolutely decided on the buyinn or is this some kinda lower buyinn because its PLO week and it caters to new players to the game?

(xposting myself since diff rep answer different things).

the buy-in and the format for this tourney are pretty much what we agreed upon at the meetings, they're designed to maximize the player pool.

the plan was def to make it regular, I imagine the guarantee will be raised over time

Having WCOOP set the standard for this one is unrealistic, I'm afraid :/

Disappointing buyinn and especially guarantee during PLO week. At least make it a 109 6m 50-100k guarantee for that Omaha week promo imo

I assumed these Sunday tournaments are at least gonna be 6max like people voted heavily for

Petition: Pokerstars PLO Sunday MTT

Personally I would've preferred a bigger one too, obv, but this should be popular.

Should be 6max unless something changed after the meetings

Regarding the rake discussion:

It should be noted that the amount of rake you pay also depends on your playing style. Net rake at the micros is roughly ~10bb/100 for reasonable (i.e tight) players, which is high of course but not the end of the world because the achieveable winrates are so big.

There is, however, an armada of wannabe LAGs/maniacs particularly at the deep, ante tables who pay 30bb up to 50bb in rake (use the attributed rake stat in PT4 which is the only relevant one) which basically means that none of them are winning players regardless how skilled they are. The amount of pointless pot inflating and preflop aggression is mind-boggling if you have the slightest idea about the rake problem.

Nick?

SuperNova Prestige Poll

New Isle of Man meeting proposed

i guess stars has forgotten about this thread again, i see a couple of questions that have not been answered and it's 2.5 months since nick's latest reply. not very convincing.