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PLO5z - Middle set in deep spot PLO5z - Middle set in deep spot

01-20-2017 , 07:16 AM
Good morning everyone,
Against an unknown villain, how would u play flop and turn here?
As played, is river an easy fold?

PokerStars - $0.05 PL Hi FAST (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 81.6 BB (VPIP: 32.35, PFR: 23.53, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 105)
SB: 464.4 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
BB: 162.6 BB (VPIP: 47.62, PFR: 23.81, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
Hero (UTG): 405.4 BB
MP: 257.2 BB (VPIP: 19.79, PFR: 14.84, 3Bet Preflop: 3.95, Hands: 395)
CO: 126.6 BB (VPIP: 31.34, PFR: 29.85, 3Bet Preflop: 4.76, Hands: 68)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 6 8 9 8

Hero raises to 3.4 BB, fold, fold, fold, SB calls 3 BB, BB calls 2.4 BB

Flop: (10.2 BB, 3 players) 5 Q 8
SB bets 3 BB, BB calls 3 BB, Hero raises to 17.6 BB, SB calls 14.6 BB, fold

Turn: (48.4 BB, 2 players) A
SB bets 14 BB, Hero raises to 58.8 BB, SB raises to 103.6 BB, Hero calls 44.8 BB

River: (255.6 BB, 2 players) A
SB bets 245.6 BB,
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01-20-2017 , 08:46 AM
I'd play flop the same as you and get it all in on the turn, yeah i would fold river as played.
I just think he has AQXX a lot more in his range than QQXX and AAXX and as there is a decent amount of money in the pot by the turn I'd get the money in. On the river we don't even beat his AQXX hands so we aren't really beating anything so I fold.
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01-20-2017 , 08:51 AM
Not opening this pre probably.
Flop standard, turn im just calling that donk lead and playing river. Might be nitty, but i don't like going cray against unknown for 400bb.
As played river is a snap fold, that turn 3ball is already superscary and probably has you beat.
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01-20-2017 , 09:54 AM
If I was first to act on the river I think I would just open fold

Not sure about the turn plays. At least it's nice of villain to make the 3b so small
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01-20-2017 , 10:20 AM
Fold pre. Hand is total garbage.
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01-20-2017 , 12:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loctus
If I was first to act on the river I think I would just open fold
That would be the GTO play I guess...
Unfortunately PS software don't allow these open folds anymore
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01-20-2017 , 12:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mandracon
That would be the GTO play I guess...
Unfortunately PS software don't allow these open folds anymore
I have seen many others open fold still. How do they do it?
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01-20-2017 , 02:07 PM
Turn is super confusing to me...

If we think we have the best hand on the turn, shouldn't we just be repotting?

If we think we are crushed and drawing to 5 outs (assuming our 7's are good), shouldn't we just fold to the 3 bet even though it's a super small raise?
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01-20-2017 , 10:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gay_on_tse
I have seen many others open fold still. How do they do it?
Report them for using hax
Also, reported for being able to see other people's hole cards
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01-23-2017 , 05:37 PM
This is an extremely interesting hand imo cause these spots happen quite often in the micros and are preety tough to play due to stack size.

Yeah its horrible to stack off 400bbs with a weak boat but by saying that we assume that vllain only has QQ/AA/AQ in this spot,which is a huge assumption considering that by the way he played the entire hand,he seems like a typical PLO5 moron who plays backwards.

To those who play mid/high stakes only and never played PLO5 through PLO50,there are bunch of guys who will do that with Q5,67xx,bottom set,KQJT,,9TJx etc.Basically they play their whole continuing range like that cause they dont really know what to do,and yeah obv there is AA/QQ/AQ in there as well but the random crap way outweighs those nutted hands.

I guess this is where a HUD or reads will matter the most,if this guy is a 55/12 with 15FCb(again,a common character in those games) then i prolly snap call.

If hes a 14/11 bad reg who nits it up pre but doesnt really know what to do post its a river open fold as above posters said.
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