[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $564.33 (1,128.7 bb)
SB: $45.21 (90.4 bb)
BB: $23 (46 bb)
UTG: $91.07 (182.1 bb)
Hero (MP): $79.42 (158.8 bb)
CO: $108.83 (217.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A A 6 6
UTG raises to $1, Hero raises to $3.75, 4 folds, UTG raises to $6.50, Hero raises to $20.25, UTG calls $13.75

Flop: ($41.25) T T J (2 players)
UTG bets $19.50, Hero calls $19.50

Turn: ($80.25) 4 (2 players)
UTG bets $39,

Not sure about the call on the flop but when you do you gotta commit to the turn.

should i just fold flop in spots like this?

GII flop

Shove flop and win against KQJ9

Easy game?

I think with spr 1.5, im always getting it in here. Id expect a villain with a 10 here to check and let you cbet

If you are deeper then i think you could potentially fold the flop with reads or whatever but with your stack size the only flop play is to jam.

Gaaad I hate these spots vs unknown/w no reads. fwiw think donking with a T is a great play here esp when everyone seems pretty happy to just jam with AA.

He reeled you in pre flop, now he has you flapping your fins post flop

Don't think you can fold here, not sure about how competent villian is but unless you 5bet range includes a good chunk of non AA hands (or villian even thinks about stuff like this) your hand is pretty much face up now and a good player is going to know you how much you will really hate this flop.

Some of his rundowns crush this flop, but often villian will just have a draw or a marginal marginal hands plus redraw.

Now that we have got here and you know villian is an absolute nit, with an SPR of 1.5 I don't think you can put somebody on exactly a T here and fold much or at all.

Disclaimer 3/4/5 bet unsuited AA is probably my single largest losing category of of hand so bear that in mind when reading this post

gii flopp

If you're gonna play on the flop, you're better off just getting it all in at this point.

However, AA pre-flop is not always a reason to put in the extra raise unless you're likely to get a bigger % of your stack involved. I prefer to play smaller pots (even with premium hands) and wait till I crush the flop to create a bigger pot....reduces variance. AA pre-flop is not as far ahead as you may think in Omaha.

3bet pre is perfectly fine/standard here.

i wish someone would come in and tell me how far AA is ahead pre-flop in Omaha

How far is he ahead?
Or what do you want to say?

Given SPR you can just shove and expect about 38% - int he long run villains strategy is not going to be any good unless he has AA himself (he has misculated his sizings just barely and can't expect to get mistakes postflop) - if you are auto shoving any flop you will win with the preflop investment in general. This sizing is very hard to play against post flop. It is a very powerful strategy in general to buy flops on defined boards. It is very interesting actually. Flop is definitely close... You can fold because he didn't check raise... which I tihnk is right quite alot of the time as CR = strength and half pot = semi bluff. However, good players are ttricking you, and its so variable. No way to get reads really without knowing the player.

Preflop, with this stack size you need to hit one of your 1/3 boards , with the two 6's it's not actually that helpful. Going the route of bluff catch can cost a lot relative to preflop investment. Against a min raise UTG you can afford to pot your whole 3b range so I don't mind potting but if you are a nit and he sees this then i don't like it as he sees the AA weight and your 66 has very little deception value keeping in minds remaining implied odds even when you hit a 6, you also have literally nos straight equity whatsoever. Preflop is not a bad spot to just set mine an A, you could also just raise to 2.5 and achieve this.

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation

600,000 trials (Randomized)

Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
AsAc6h6s	66.25%	397,493	0
50%!aa**	33.75%	202,507	0

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation

600,000 trials (Randomized)

board: JJT

Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
AsAc6h6s	61.54%	369,218	0
50%!aa**	38.46%	230,782	0

This flop definitely is towards his range as his equity increases, + this sim is above expectation if villain is thinking player who is not min raising most of his A*** preflop and choosing hands which have good equity vs the 5 chances of AA popping up with aggression.

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation

600,000 trials (Randomized)

board: JJT

Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
AsAc6h6s	33.21%	199,258	0
50%!aa**J,TT,KQ,Q98T)	66.79%	400,742	0

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation

600,000 trials (Randomized)

board: JJT

Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
AsAc6h6s	38.77%	232,600	0
50%!aa**J,TT,KQ,Q98T,QQ,2222,8899,7799,6699)	61.23%	367,400	0

33% is not actually enough so against and reg who is cehckraising the top of their range you can shove. Against some players who are very skilled would just applaud them and muck.

Start putting some gut shot/OESD into his donk range and its very much nicer

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation

600,000 trials (Randomized)

board: JJT

Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
AsAc6h6s	40.77%	244,613	0
50%!aa**J,TT,KQ,Q98T,AQ,Q9)	59.23%	355,387	0

[table]ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation

It just seems like villain is never expecting a fold ott when you call flop so of course you're pot committed ott if you do call flop.

I think flop is just a fold though, villain's 4b/flatting range just seems to smack this board and unless he's levelling you with a wrap with his sizing (which I think is unlikely) you're just crushed.

I am sure there are regs in the PLO50z pool, where you can safely fold the flop. But you would need some solid reads as a fold is prolly very exploitable and non GTO.

Not 3betting pre is ridic terrible in my book

What a nit 😀