Villain's a reg, also plays higher than this. Opens CO 32%.

My preflop 3bet is by no means mandatory, but I dont think its all that bad either. Flop is kinda interesting. Do you guys prefer betting, c/r'ing or c/c'ing?

What do we do on the turn?

what are you trying to do start another argument?

I have no idea what I'm talking about but guessing is fun.

Seems like a good hand to be cbetting. If we were a little deeper I wouldn't mind bet 3betting this hand OTT. But with the stack sizes I think check raise the turn but expect him to check back a lot. Then OTR we can check raise blanks and and lead some flushing//straightening cards and we also have the nuts every now and then which is fun.

Two things come to mind here:

1. We block made hands, but have no club or face cards. That means villain is much more likely to hold draws.
2. This board actually isn't bad for our range at all. It's not the best, but we should still have a range advantage here.

I think I'll be cbetting flop with a decently wide range here and I feel like this is a hand I want in my cbet range rather than my check/raise range simply due to blockers and necessity for protection.

On the turn I feel like we have to bet again. Villain's range is very draw-heavy and we don't want to give those a free card. Yes he can call again with good draws but I think many of them should be folding. It's probably more a protection bet than anything.

What is the worst hand you bet call the turn with?

+1 ph33rox. Usually i would just barrel this turn on my limit between 2/3 -3/4 pot and i dont think its a mistake in a long term.

This seems like one of the best bluff barrel hands range-wise on that turn card holding no spades and blocking a lot.

not sure how good of a bluff this is, since villain might not be folding better all that often. thats what kinda makes this a tough spot.

+ you'd be "bluffing" the best hand a lot of the times

Edit: meh i actually pretty much just rephrased what apo said

This makes me like the option to get into c/c mode on turn and river.

But we're missing out on protection though...

x/call, try to get to showdown. Even if we hit our draw, it's not a great hand and we could be dominated.
I'm assuming you're also checking here with some 9's full and 10's full, so this is good for balance.

^ not sure if you really mean x/fold.

c/folding here is not good at all

OK I meant x/call but x/fold isn't that bad. I mean any overpair now beats you and you're OOP on river. I suppose if we hit the straight we could barrel 1/2 pot and fold to a raise

Cleanest route is to bet.

Although betting in both spots is fine, I prefer c/c both flop and turn. Getting in on flop really isn't that great and getting it in on turn is bad. There are so many semibluffing hands for villain I think there's more value in inducing flop/turn bluffs as long as we play well on the river. Checking this hand also protects our checking range in general a bit.

This is like the exact type of hand you should be cbetting though.

Bet Bet

hard spot

he may raise light wide and then you either have to fold or double bluff... against avg rank 16 there I guess you can barrel barrel. hard spot though, will come down to dynamic, and you have one ****ed up dynamic generally.

Pretty much +1 to Ph33rox. The turn doesn't bring in a new flush draw, and unless I have reads that suggest so, I'm not expecting villain to bluff raise this turn a lot of his draws, but rather raise the flop with them, if he's happy with them.

OP villain has a overpair obv called turn?

How is no one putting villain on a overpair here and simply thinking betting turn gets villain folding here a lot or a protection bet? villain would have to have some real crappy hand to fold turn here given action.

What hands is the villain 4-betting with out of curiosity? (open to everyone of course) At the micros this is often AAxx. But I imagine at PLO500 people are increasing 4 bet frequencies and 3betting lighter?

A lot are saying bet bet as his range is very draw heavy. Can anyone explain why his range does not consist heavily of overpairs, QQxx, KKxx, AAxx, or is it simply laws of averages?

Is AAxx, KKxx 4 betting 100% at this level? Or is AAxx, KKxx calling turn, if they have flatted the 3bet?

Draw heavy - meaning 3 card run downs JQK etc on this board?

Ph33rox nailed it as usual.

flop - is fine but when he only flats you on the flop i really don't think he has much other than draws so i instantly take out any sets from his range as i just feel with you donking into him on the flop he would want to raise to look to get more money in with a set on such a draw heavy board. (also you have blockers to sets aswell)

turn - i would check/call and then see what happens on the river.

i just feel your hand is too good to pretty much turn into a bluff.