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06-08-2016 , 08:52 AM

sngrush

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Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 621

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37352174

BTN: $84.45 (168.9 bb)
Hero (SB): $51.60 (103.2 bb)
BB: $7.84 (15.7 bb)
UTG: $102.77 (205.5 bb)
MP: $52.45 (104.9 bb)
CO: $13.55 (27.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K

UTG folds, MP raises to $1.50, CO calls $1.50, BTN folds, Hero calls $1.25, BB folds

Flop: ($5) 9

(3 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $4.75, CO raises to $12.05 and is all-in, Hero ???

Hi!

Both villains are kind of unknown and seem to be on the poorer side.
Which one of the 3 options is best here?

Thanks!

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06-08-2016 , 09:06 AM

OmahaFanatical4

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call.

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06-08-2016 , 10:14 AM

rulaZ

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Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 136

Well if we are calling we have to fold every turn card except our gin cards. I'm not willing to pay 2.5x SPR to do so and have Villain fold on my flush cards. Since CO is short I will give up here.

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06-08-2016 , 12:32 PM

NMcNasty

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Easy fold. CO reopened the action for MP. You can easily just get shoved on again here, and even if not, its hard to extract value when the flush hits with a player allin.

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06-08-2016 , 04:26 PM

Bullten

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Originally Posted by OmahaFanatical4

call.

My instinct says fold since MP looks strong and could easily reraise flop. But i would love to hear you explain your thought process about calling.

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06-08-2016 , 05:01 PM

.isolated

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Another easy fold because the betting was opened back up. Getting 3-bet is a disaster.

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06-08-2016 , 06:49 PM

SolarAU

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Not only does it reopen the action for MP as mentioned above, it also makes our hand look really face up and greatly diminishes our implied odds even if we can guarantee MP is only calling/ folding so therefore mathematically we can't even justify a call given that when we do hit we're rarely getting paid off.

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06-08-2016 , 08:36 PM

OmahaFanatical4

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Originally Posted by Bullten

My instinct says fold since MP looks strong and could easily reraise flop. But i would love to hear you explain your thought process about calling.

my logic, and it may be questionable, is that i'm not so sure MP is that strong and I don't really mind getting it in vs him on the side pot. if he has a draw we should be winning, and even two pair we should be very close to a flip. a set is pretty unlikely.

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06-09-2016 , 04:07 AM

Bullten

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Okey, But how do you think he would play AA,99 and 88? not the same exact way?

Edit: I don't want to see monsters under the bed in every hand but I don't understand how you think he very rarely has a set? because this is how I would play a set (and alot of other hands too ofc)

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06-09-2016 , 05:27 AM

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sauhund

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dafuq
we block the flushdraw, we got one tiny blocker vs a straight draw, we don´t block any combination of made hands whatsoever, mp was the preflop raiser and full pottet on a board like this.

he´s got every set, A8/A9 combo in his range. and I don´t think he´s much wider either.

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06-09-2016 , 08:26 AM

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Oink

Carpal \'Tunnel

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Wow, snap fold. Not even close

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