Hi. Vilian unknown , im sure i can play this hand just falt , or 3b , im sure in both spot play well , can i call the 4b with this hand?

i think this hand is good enough to call a 4bet

I think the hand was played fine. You can flat preflop if you expect villain to 4bet BvB a lot but I'd say that's not generally a concern as I find players will poorly adjust preflop ranges BvB and will just have a straight up tight range when 4betting anyway. But otherwise putting more money in PF IP isn't at all a disaster.

Flop is obviously an easy fold as played, the board never favours either player but after he pots it he's going with the hand so you have no fold equity if you shove and you'd usually be getting it in far worse than flipping.

Next time just flat call. Let's think about this for a second. Why is SB raising $1.50 just to win $0.50 with a speculative hand. He/she probably isn't doing this without some decent cards. Although your hand is a bit better than speculative from the BB, I don't think it's worth 4betting unless you have a specific read on villain (like a vpip/pfr of 75/40 for example). Just call and see the flop with a speculative hand like this. What a gross flop for your hand though! Easy fold.

AC

nothing wrong with 3 betting at all.

wp

3 betting IP is fine here. You should build a pot with these hands HU IP. you will hit more flops than he will

After reading several of yours and DickeLatte's comments on other posts as well as a discussion between Joe Ingram and Phil Galfond re: defending the blinds and opening/raising from the CO and button, I think y'all are onto something and that I'm playing way too tight. I tried some new things at .25/.50 and really loosened up in the blinds, CO and Button. I ended up running over the table...so thanks! I think it was more than just luck too. I felt like I kept my opponents off balance.

After re-reading this post and running the hand over, you're right...3bet is perfectly fine and this hand is more likely to hit a flop hard.


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[QUOTE=achalmers;51922476]After reading several of yours and DickeLatte's comments on other posts as well as a discussion between Joe Ingram and Phil Galfond re: defending the blinds and opening/raising from the CO and button, I think y'all are onto something and that I'm playing way too tight. I tried some new things at .25/.50 and really loosened up in the blinds, CO and Button. I ended up running over the table...so thanks! I think it was more than just luck too. I felt like I kept my opponents off balance.

After re-reading this post and running the hand over, you're right...3bet is perfectly fine and this hand is more likely to hit a flop hard.


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I played like a NIT for years and had to go back to basics. Still learning and picking up new skills I didn't even think about. You want to be IP in raised pots. It makes an opponent fire at you as their dead money is sitting in there if they don't


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5bet to make your point

how much equity on what % of flops we should have here to have a break even 4b call?

also, how do you count it?

PM me I'll send you one cool spreadsheet