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09-04-2013 , 07:31 PM

kokotjebeti

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villain is quite passive 60/10 over 100hands and he doesnt fold to cbets
i decided to lead the flop because of his passivity, and i betted the turn as well to build the pot

not sure what to do on the river here when i miss? Im blocking straight draws and flush draws, is this a c/f?

[converted_hand][hand_history]Prima, $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #19263122

BTN: $85.92 (171.8 bb)
SB: $50 (100 bb)
BB: $88.46 (176.9 bb)
UTG: $25.44 (50.9 bb)
HERO: $51.54 (103.1 bb) K

CO: $49.04 (98.1 bb)

Preflop:
UTG folds, HERO raises to $1.75, CO calls $1.75, 3 folds

Flop: ($4.25) 9

(2 players)
HERO bets $3.25, CO calls $3.25

Turn: ($10.75) A

(2 players)
HERO bets $7.75, CO calls $7.75

River: ($26.25) 3

(2 players)
HERO ??

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09-04-2013 , 11:11 PM

ndahlhoff10

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I like a x/f

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09-05-2013 , 02:59 PM

Pokernubz

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Do you think you'll get him to fold anything that beats you?
You probably have the near the bottom of your range.
That said, you probably aint getting many made hand folds on that river, I like a x/f.

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09-05-2013 , 06:00 PM

bartolomeus

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is he ever betting when checked to otf ?

c/f river. he isnt folding and we have some sdv when he edcides to check back.

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09-05-2013 , 06:22 PM

OmahaDonk

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Switch villain from passive to aggro. Anyone finding a x/c?

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09-06-2013 , 06:26 PM

Pokernubz

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Yes, then I think it's much closer. I'd still fold tho.
Because all aggro players are potting turn with aces up, and almost all passive players are just calling with them, probably half raise top two.

You might be able to bluff out some A high fd's that only have one pair.
A568dd type hands. Actually nvm, doubt villain has nfd here often if he's aggressive. He'll almost always have at least a gutshot or pair with it, meaning he'll pot flop.

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09-06-2013 , 11:41 PM

IBETUFOLD33

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I'm checking and leaning towards calling. Passive player even better to call against cuz they will check back aces up most of the time.

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09-07-2013 , 02:29 AM

xaxa

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Originally Posted by IBETUFOLD33

I'm checking and leaning towards calling. Passive player even better to call against cuz they will check back aces up most of the time.

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09-07-2013 , 08:12 PM

bartolomeus

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never calling river.

he has a ton of 2pair hes betting otr and he might turn Ax/95/93/53 into a bluff.

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09-07-2013 , 08:50 PM

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IBETUFOLD33

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Originally Posted by bartolomeus

he has a ton of 2pair hes betting otr and he might turn Ax/95/93/53 into a bluff.

Nope and Nope

Last edited by IBETUFOLD33; 09-07-2013 at 08:51 PM. Reason: .

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09-08-2013 , 06:18 AM

#11

Jabonator

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c/c river is good

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09-08-2013 , 07:09 AM

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bartolomeus

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Originally Posted by IBETUFOLD33

Nope and Nope

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09-08-2013 , 07:24 AM

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Kojika

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Originally Posted by bartolomeus

never calling river.

he has a ton of 2pair hes betting otr and he might turn Ax/95/93/53 into a bluff.

Turning two pair into a bluff on this board? Didn't you mean value betting?

I highly doubt a passive player would value bet those hands. He would probably check back.

Checking this river for sure. Folding or calling a bet can't be a mistake.

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09-08-2013 , 12:57 PM

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bartolomeus

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Originally Posted by Kojika

Nope.

I think its the new thing

i like it.

Last edited by bartolomeus; 09-08-2013 at 01:04 PM.

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09-08-2013 , 02:49 PM

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kamilk

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V passive guy who doesn't fold you can bet smaller with your draws. Something like 2.35 on the flop, etc. He will not be concered by your bet sizing and when you will make 80-90 % of the pot when you hit.

I'm checking on the river.

V aggressive - I would expect he would raise you on the flop...

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09-09-2013 , 07:28 AM

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OmahaDonk

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There are plenty of ATT6 type hands that don't raise flop with nfd and just because a villain is aggro doesn't mean he can't balance.

Plenty of passive villains will call turn with aces up and value bet river, I think this is a spot where there are enough value hands that it's a snap fold vs station.

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09-09-2013 , 09:47 AM

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Taliwahn

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I would need more reads on villian too justify a call on the river. I would wait a few seconds before checking to villian, I see fish playing more honest then.

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