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04-27-2016 , 02:50 AM

bhang

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Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 24

$0.50 PL Hi FAST (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players

BTN: 100 BB
SB: 100.5 BB
Hero (BB): 179.08 BB
UTG: 96.7 BB
MP: 579.88 BB
CO: 108.66 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K

fold, MP raises to 3.5 BB, CO calls 3.5 BB, fold, SB calls 3 BB, Hero calls 2.5 BB

Flop: (14 BB, 4 players) Q

SB checks, Hero checks, MP bets 10 BB, CO raises to 43.36 BB, Hero ?

No hands on MP and CO.

Is this a squeeze preflop from oop? If yes, do we raise pot or smaller? My thinking is to raise big when oop, so there are fewer decisions to be made postflop. Is that standard?

Also, do we fold to 4bet, since I hardly ever see anyone 4bet anything but AA there?

As played, do we get it in 3way with our inside wrap on a 2tone board? I'm not even sure if HU I should get it in here.

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04-27-2016 , 03:12 AM

NMcNasty

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Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,990

Pre is definitely a 3bet, you might even have odds to call a 4bet. As played flop is an easy fold.

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04-27-2016 , 03:17 AM

xaxa

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Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,501

flat pre fold flop

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04-27-2016 , 05:53 AM

Travbana

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Originally Posted by NMcNasty

Pre is definitely a 3bet, you might even have odds to call a 4bet. As played flop is an easy fold.

Dont 3b crappy kings OOP multiway. Easy fold against 4b w crappy kings. fold flop.

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04-27-2016 , 06:06 AM

derjan

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Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 1,605

I like 3betting if we're 100bb deep cause we can commit ourself on al lot of boards but 180bb rather just flat and try to flop the nuts.

As played we have to call 44bb cold and MP can move in as well so we have to fold as villains are often drawing to the same straight and we don't know if the diamonds are live outs.

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04-27-2016 , 10:01 AM

NMcNasty

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Originally Posted by Travbana

Dont 3b crappy kings OOP multiway. Easy fold against 4b w crappy kings. fold flop.

Jfc, these aren't crappy kings. Top 4%.

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04-27-2016 , 11:30 AM

sauhund

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Originally Posted by NMcNasty

Jfc, these aren't crappy kings. Top 4%.

If one uses words like definitely and the f word in the same breath as jesus of nazareth, he´d better back that up with unmoving truth. like earth orbiting sun. stone beats scissors. quads beats full house. etc

this spot is more like shaq could have won more rings if he didn´t eat that much big macs.

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04-27-2016 , 02:24 PM

NMcNasty

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Originally Posted by sauhund

JFC stands for Jiminy Freaking Cricket. I wouldn't want to offend the sensibilities of the devoutly religious nits on this forum.

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04-27-2016 , 02:26 PM

Darkfangs

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Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 540

easy fold flop like the rest said. I don't like the 3-bet pre as there are already 3 people in the pot and it's going to be hard to get it heads up. I would squeeze if there was only one caller after the raise.

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04-28-2016 , 03:14 AM

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bhang

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Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 24

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Originally Posted by derjan

Yeah. I didn't realize we're that deep with MP. Flatting seems to be the best option.

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04-28-2016 , 12:16 PM

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halpgr

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Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 789

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Originally Posted by derjan

Without the diamonds I counted Hero still has 14 cards that can give him a nut straight. Which would make Hero the favorite to win the hand. Although as noted based on the action these outs are discounted by redraws to diamonds or the board pairing, also it could be a split if Hero does make a straight. Then again it could be a 3 way all in on the flop which improves Hero's price. Still I think due to the redraws against and outs being discounted then I believe it's fold the flop.

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04-28-2016 , 01:24 PM

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.isolated

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Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 21,495

3 8s
2 kings
2 tens
2 jacks
= 9 outs.

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04-28-2016 , 01:40 PM

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OmahaDonk

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Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 4,923

I might not 3b any hand in our pf spot.
But if we are we should definitely include our better KK..

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04-28-2016 , 01:55 PM

#14

halpgr

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Originally Posted by .isolated

3 8s
2 kings
2 tens
2 jacks
= 9 outs.

shoot I reversed the 3 8 when I counted so I was off by 5

oops thanks for correcting

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04-28-2016 , 04:14 PM

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rulaZ

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Without reads I would only squeeze this hand if CO openened, BTN & SB calls. Flop fold

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