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PLO50: But 3bet AQT9ss, flop Q84, cbet or check behind

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02-03-2015 , 10:00 AM

TaiwanUP

journeyman

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 382

Villian is a reg(27/13), he opens CO(18% CO steal), I 3bet button AQT9ss.

Flop is Q84 with a possible flush draw. Villian has a c/r flop of 11% and a raise cbet in 3bet pots of 40%,(fold to cbet in 3b pots of 40%). So he's pretty aggro in these spots. Knowing this, do we still bet/fold in position? We still have some equity and a non-flush Jack gives us the nuts. Should we check behind to realize our equity or just go ahead and cbet anyways?

[hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #34617681

SB: $119.43 (238.9 bb)
BB: $50 (100 bb)
UTG: $43.14 (86.3 bb)
MP: $64.90 (129.8 bb)
CO: $63.94 (127.9 bb)
Hero (BTN): $50 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with A

2 folds, CO raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $5.25, 2 folds, CO calls $3.75

Flop: ($11.25) Q

(2 players)
CO checks, Hero...

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02-03-2015 , 10:24 AM

F_Ivanovic

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 4,658

b/f would be the worst line to take. If we decide to bet we have to GII.. I mean this guy is c/r any Q or 8 here as well as any wrap draw. PPT it and see how we do against such a wide range.

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02-03-2015 , 10:53 AM

StanleyCooper

centurion

Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 197

Bet/3bet looks good

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02-03-2015 , 11:45 AM

Ph33roX

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,285

SPR is only 4, you have TPTK with a nut gutter on a board that doesn't hit a 20% opening range very well. Betting here will be very profitable, if you get jammed on you're committed to stack off (it's not really close).

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02-03-2015 , 01:47 PM

I'mAFrenchDonkey

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 1,589

Bet/call ? (not over happy about it but have to no ?)

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02-03-2015 , 09:01 PM

friedrice88

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 351

if he folds to ur cbet it will be very profitable,if he ship u will be near 50/50,I bet pot

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02-03-2015 , 11:12 PM

achalmers

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 306

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Originally Posted by I'mAFrenchDonkey

Bet/call ? (not over happy about it but have to no ?)

Not happy if hero bets and gets raised. Not calling on that board with only top pair and a gutter. No hero doesn't have to call.

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02-04-2015 , 04:34 AM

TaiwanUP

journeyman

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 382

Wow the thought of bet/jamming never even occurred to me. Now that I think about it, against this type of villain, it makes sense. I've been thinking on the wrong level. Learn something new everyday.

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Originally Posted by F_Ivanovic

b/f would be the worst line to take. If we decide to bet we have to GII.. I mean this guy is c/r any Q or 8 here as well as any wrap draw. PPT it and see how we do against such a wide range.

Could this monkey really be c/ring an 8? If he would c/r with an 8, mine as well be doing it with a 4 too, what's the difference?

Now the question becomes, is it better to bet/jam or pot/jam? Potting gives us more FE but it looks like exactly what it is. Whereas a standard cbet looks more legit.

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02-05-2015 , 04:32 AM

Jabonator

nice piano there

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 13,289

b-gii

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02-05-2015 , 04:34 AM

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Tyrannic

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,896

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Originally Posted by TaiwanUP

Now the question becomes, is it better to bet/jam or pot/jam? Potting gives us more FE but it looks like exactly what it is. Whereas a standard cbet looks more legit.

I vote bet / jam. Villain might think twice about c/r'ing light when he sees you pot unless you generally cbet pot.

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02-05-2015 , 12:51 PM

#11

Praetor

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 11,807

I like checking

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02-05-2015 , 03:53 PM

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cachorromagro

centurion

Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 150

bet/jam! the hands that crush you are really unlikely to be in villans range: sets are really hard for him to have and you block Q so its unfortunate if he has a drunk 88xx or 33xx; 2 pairs you block some; pair+wrap/wrap you block them too.. so if villan is so agro in x/raising here you got a pretty good spot!

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02-05-2015 , 04:31 PM

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SlimyF

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,706

9$/gii

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02-05-2015 , 04:55 PM

#14

naggeri

adept

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 957

Bet/call makes it easy. I dont like checking this unless we start checking back some kind of flush draws as well.

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