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06-02-2015 , 11:06 AM
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    Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #36606941

    BTN: $4.37 (87.4 bb)
    Hero (SB): $5 (100 bb)
    BB: $14.71 (294.2 bb)
    UTG: $3.40 (68 bb)
    MP: $10.65 (213 bb)
    CO: $5.73 (114.6 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 6 A A 2
    UTG folds, MP raises to $0.10, CO folds, BTN calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.45, BB folds, MP calls $0.35, BTN calls $0.35

    Flop: ($1.40) K A J (3 players)
    Hero checks, MP checks, BTN checks

    Turn: ($1.40) J (3 players)
    Hero bets $0.75, MP calls $0.75, BTN calls $0.75

    River: ($3.65) T (3 players)
    Hero bets $1.75, MP raises to $4.20, BTN folds, Hero



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    fold? what about my sizings? bet flop?
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    06-02-2015 , 03:58 PM
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    Call, you will be right often enough. I bet the flop too.
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    06-03-2015 , 02:07 AM
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    I would probably never fold here. If you happen to be up against quads or a royal flush, then that's whatever, but KK and TT are just as likely to be raising you on the river here I think.

    And I like your sizings, though I would just shove river.
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    06-03-2015 , 02:47 AM
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    I think not betting flop is giving away way too much free EV to any random spade draw and even broadway gutters
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    06-03-2015 , 03:55 AM
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    Yeah bet flop.
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    06-04-2015 , 01:05 AM
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    If you're not betting this combo OTF, you're not betting enough combos. River raise is annoying but given the raise size its not like you're folding.
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    06-04-2015 , 02:56 AM
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    Bet flop.
    As played bet bigger on river. Obviouly call the raise for that size. The overall debate of folding Aces full to a 2.5x raise on the river seems kind of ridiculous to me.
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    06-04-2015 , 08:00 AM
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    As i said in another thread, i keep getting into situations like this where i get raised with a very good hand, and i keep getting the worst of it, so i'm just trying to get some advice from better players instead of drawing (possibly false) conclusions myself.
    In this hand i did call and villain obv showed JJxx
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    06-04-2015 , 08:19 AM
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    Do you ever get raised with a very good hand and win?
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    06-04-2015 , 08:45 AM
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    whats with all these threads what should i do fold or call where there is a possible straight or royal flush on the board, vs Hero's top boat?

    90% of the time i don't even realize there is a straight or royal flush on the board when I'm holding top boat, so i suppose its easy for me to say this.
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    06-04-2015 , 09:10 AM
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rei Ayanami
    Do you ever get raised with a very good hand and win?
    You mean to say i'm suffering from selective memory? Possibly (probably?). I don't know, too small of a sample, which is why i ask
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    06-04-2015 , 09:27 AM
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    If you have HEM or PT4, you should review your river calls in large pots (maybe 100+ bb) and see how you're doing -- and more importantly, what various players are showing up with. You can use filters. I've mentioned something like this before. Database review is pretty important, otherwise you'll be asking the same questions over and over again.
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    06-04-2015 , 09:33 AM
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    That's definitely a good point
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    06-08-2015 , 10:59 PM
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    To be honest I'm going all in on the river i feel his only creditable hand is JT. I just can't see JJ checking the flop or KQs. These are the only 2 hands that beat you
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    06-08-2015 , 11:59 PM
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    Quote:
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    To be honest I'm going all in on the river i feel his only creditable hand is JT. I just can't see JJ checking the flop or KQs. These are the only 2 hands that beat you
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    06-09-2015 , 04:22 AM
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    This is never a fold. It's a cooler if he had quads or royal. He could be raising with JTxx, KJxx, KKxx, etc...

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