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PLO5: Did I lay down Aces correctly? PLO5: Did I lay down Aces correctly?

11-12-2014 , 07:52 PM
    Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #32563162

    Hero (BTN): $5.37 (107.4 bb)
    SB: $9.31 (186.2 bb)
    BB: $8.25 (165 bb)
    UTG: $5.15 (103 bb)
    MP: $5.48 (109.6 bb)
    CO: $5 (100 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with A A 9 3
    UTG folds, MP calls $0.05, CO folds, Hero raises to $0.22, SB calls $0.20, BB folds, MP calls $0.17

    Flop: ($0.71) 8 K 6 (3 players)
    SB checks, MP bets $0.68, 2 folds

    Results: $0.71 pot ($0.03 rake)
    Final Board: 8 K 6
    Hero mucked A A 9 3 and lost (-$0.22 net)
    SB mucked and lost (-$0.22 net)
    MP mucked and won $0.68 ($0.46 net)



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    What is villains range here? I think he has 2 pair at least. don't wanna gii with our 9 high flushdraw i think?
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    11-12-2014 , 08:33 PM
    yea gotta fold. big problem (aside from your hand) is that u have 2 players still behind u who could have u crushed as well

    hard to tell exactly what his range is since this isn't the most common line (limp/call then donk pot on the flop) and you didn't provide any reads (even just vpip/pfr/3bet helps a lot here)
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    11-13-2014 , 12:08 PM
    He has just 1 player left to act behind him, but regardless - I agree that a fold is in order.

    I gave MP a 50% limping range excluding a 12% opening range. I gave SB a 25% flatting range excluding a tight 4% squeezing range.

    On the flop I gave MP a quite liberal potting range of K6+, 2nd nut FD or better, 975/T97 and any pair+fd. This is a 30% donkbetting range which is very optimistic. You have 42% equity heads-up against MP, but your 3-way equity is only 27%. If SB decides to shove you are in a very bad spot and have to fold. Since you're not making that much on the call to begin with, you cannot afford getting blown off the pot 15-20% of the time when SB wakes up with a hand.

    Tightening Villain range even slightly to a 20% donkbetting range { K8+,(K,8,6) : (579+,Qhh+),Khh+ } and you have 40% equity HU and only 25% 3-way. SB actually has more equity in the pot than you right now (26%), and he has any 4 cards from a 25% range.
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    11-13-2014 , 12:11 PM
    this is not PLO. this is NO limit omaha. Does that make a difference?
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    11-13-2014 , 01:20 PM
    Can't see why this would make much of a difference in this particular spot. Any pot-sized raise will basically be a shove, so it doesn't really matter. I guess villain can more easily deny us equity by just going all-in on the turn, but I don't think we can call a pot sized bet on many turns anyway.
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    11-14-2014 , 01:26 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Paulo Joha
    this is not PLO. this is NO limit omaha. Does that make a difference?
    I think that's just the convertor making an error. I've never seen No limit Omaha tables at stars. Lots of peoples converted hands say NLO.
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    11-14-2014 , 04:03 AM
    ez fold
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    11-14-2014 , 10:58 AM
    I dont understand why NLO is a game. Goes against the very nature of PLO
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