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Old 07-05-2012, 04:59 PM   #1
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PLO30 pr+OESD r/c vs loose restealer

SB has insane 29% resteal, fwiw his general stats are 51/41/19/AF=1.7, flop cbet 58% (84 hands). That may be an adjustment to my LAG image. Fwiw my BTN stats are steal=51%, 44/37/18/AF=3.5 (2.8K hands) - yeah, I'm a bit too fancy BTN 3bettor. In general I'm 27/18/7/AF=3.8 but I doubt SB uses a HUD. Mine is broken too - I had only observations/notes then and looked up stats post factum to give an idea of SB's style to those who prefer numbers. BB is a competent 34/22/2.7/5.2 (441 hand) postflop LAG, but he resteals 1.4% and folds 67% to steals.

Boss | Pot Limit Omaha Cash - €0.15/€0.30 - 3 players - delivered by Pokeit

Hero (BTN): €65.04 (216.8 BBs)
BB: €25.39 (84.6 BBs)
SB: €118.37 (394.6 BBs)

Pre-Flop: (€0.45) Hero is BTN with Q♦ 5♣ J♥ T♠
Hero raises €0.75 to €1.05, SB raises €2.40 to €3.45, BB folds, Hero calls

Flop: 4♦ J♣ K♣ (€7.20) (2 players)
SB bets €7.20, Hero raises €16.20 to €23.40, SB raises €38.19 to €61.59, Hero calls ALL-IN

I thought even the trashy dangler hand was good to flat this loose resteal IP this deep and hope for a rainbow flop.

The flop brought a flushdraw but gave me a pair+open-ender, and I decided to take the pot or stack off immediately because otherwise I'd have problems on most turns.

I certainly couldn't run a sim vs his range during the hand, but I don't think I was that toast vs his stackoff range getting 1-to-2.5:

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
7,081,520 trials (Exhaustive)
board: KJ4
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
QdJhTs5c31.21% 2,155,209110,497
((AA,K,Q,T):Acc,KK,JJ,44,KJ):29%3h68.79% 4,815,814110,497

Was my line correct? Thanks for answering!
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Old 07-05-2012, 05:28 PM   #2
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Re: PLO30 pr+OESD r/c vs loose restealer

I think that calling is a lot better. What are his turn tendencies - is he very aggro or gives up sometimes? I would try to barrel twice if a club hits on the turn and he doesn't bet again.
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Old 07-05-2012, 06:56 PM   #3
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Re: PLO30 pr+OESD r/c vs loose restealer

I think your line is fine here, although him potting the flop and shoving after your raise is pretty strong. I think at that point you are kind of in a spot like,

"okay so his cbetting range is weak a fairly high amount of the time so I should have fold equity here, plus I have a mediocre draw that could give me the nuts or at least a strong hand on the turn or river if he calls, and if he shoves then I am pretty much committed but behind and forced to call"

If you think about it, he will fold a lot of the lower end of his range to your raise, he will call with some of his strong and mediocre range, and he shove some of strong draws and strong hands. It ends up that you get the worst result and he shoves but I still think you have to call because you probably have enough equity against his shoving range that raise/folding would be worse than raise/calling.

Nh, obv. you ran into some top part of his range, maybe AAxx with the nfd or KK or KQJT or w/e. Good hand anyway, PLO is a swingy game and hopefully you will run into a weaker part of his range next time!
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Re: PLO30 pr+OESD r/c vs loose restealer

Def call otf. Don't shovel in >200bb if you can see a turn ip.
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Re: PLO30 pr+OESD r/c vs loose restealer

raising on the flop is a big mistake i think
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Old 07-06-2012, 03:42 AM   #6
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Re: PLO30 pr+OESD r/c vs loose restealer

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I think that calling is a lot better. What are his turn tendencies - is he very aggro or gives up sometimes? I would try to barrel twice if a club hits on the turn and he doesn't bet again.
It was my first session with this opp, so I didn't have barrelling reads. His AFq are 38% flop, 21% turn, 18% river, there's no sample for turn cbets for some reason, so yeah I think calling was better, thanks.

However, even if I had a working HUD, I wouldn't include turn aggression into it because I can't make tables bigger than 400x320 (the ability to play on a laptop lying is invaluable to me - this relaxes and ehnances blood circulation though I have to take measures against falling asleep - so I don't like to use my 1280x1024 monitor).
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