Villain is Ansky. Obviously really good.
I know this is a pretty common/standard spot. Does anyone play it differently?

fold river =(

betting and checking flop is both fine

Do you take this line with flopped nut flush once in a while too?

that would imply ansky raising without the nfblocker though
think this hand is like the prototype candidate to have in your b/c flop c/c turn c/f river range

c/c or c/r flop, dont really like betting, no better hand folds and we have very little to protect against.

His sizing scheme is actually somewhat subpar if his range is [Ahh/Ahx].

The flop bet is for value.

How about any wrap type hands?

Anyway, seems standard. I'm a CS tho so I prob call river.. I think villain being OTB at least makes it more likely he has bare Ah blocker and we only need to be right 1 in 4... but then again we probably have better bluff-catchers so it seems a theoretical fold.

I can't imagine that super-end-boss-ansky's range solely consists of hands containing the Ace of hearts here. I really have no clue though.

wat

/facepalm

i think we actually have a lot to protect against on the flop, so i prefer betting to checking.

his sizings do scream "nutblocker" to me, but its ansky, so im sure he plays his nutflushes the same and on paper we have a fold on the river

Pot is $1165 on the turn. Nuts and 2nd nuts is not at all the same thing. And to answer your question, yes, I would absolutely bet that amount. I think his line is perfect actually.

Do you honestly think that a nosebleeds crusher and overall one of the best players in the game plays his nut flushes and nut blockers differently?

Let's not try to make exploititive-based judgements on ansky's frequencies and holdings here, but rather focus on our own, k?

I mean just saying...

villain betting so small on turn is a bit suspect but obv that could be a trap, making turn CR interesting but sick

I think he can put you on KK a good amount river, especially if has Ah blocker.

Ah blocker is certainly in his range, what is his BTN steal%? Will dictate to some extent the ratio of Ah!h + 99 + 66 +:Ahh

is he value betting Qhi flush there? probs... J high? T high?

Anyway the pot doesn't really seem so standard, it is just memorable due to it being a pretty tough spot to profit from when villain has a flush 20%+ of the time before he bets?

hero playing this line is never going to be nut flush really is it?

I dont undersyand the fuss about turn bet size. Totally fine with NFbloker/NF. Playing those differently at these stakes would be ******ed.

It's a nitpick, but BTN can make slightly more $ with that range by sizing closer to GGoP (i.e., the same percentage of the pot on both the turn and the river). This is somewhat well-known -- but not ubiquitous -- theory.

Assuming he does not play his nut flushes and nut blockers differently, isn't river a mandatory call?

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation

8,181 trials (Exhaustive)

board: K965A

Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
(60%!AA):Ah	65.07%	5,323	0
AKK5:ccdd	34.93%	2,858	0

Looks like an easy call

Good players don't typically raise and barrel off with every single combo containing an A in this spot.

Seems like the standard way to play it. At some point I remember clicking flop back in these sorts of spots to make villains spazz out when they have blockers / to get it all when the board pairs, but that can't be good at these stakes, if anywhere.

I am interested by this. Never heard of GGoP (what does it stand for?). Have you got somekind of link to redirect me to so that I can look more into it? I didnt find anything searching for "GGoP"

Geometric growth of pot. There is some proof in Mathematics of Poker about it being optimal with a polarized range. I have a feeling he is sizing the turn so he can shove the river with an spr that he already has the spot solved for.

Fold river, you're check/calling turn because of equity versus his value part not because he's over-bluffing so to speak. Therefore, on the river he won't have as many bluffs as you would need to make the call.

Not sure if anyone cares anymore but you aren't supposed to use actual player names in posts.

Hand looks WP to me all around. The flop bet and sizing I like. I feel the preflop aggressor should be the one betting flushed flops a lot and in order to protect your flop betting range you shouldn't be checking your good (but not great) hands.

River I'm not going to say its a clear fold, but its a fold. I don't think top PLO players are auto dry ace bluffing, especially with this flop and turn sizing, trying to move their opponent off what looks like a smaller flush or set, until they have a decent amount of history and respect for your game. At some point you have to mix in calls in this type of situation.

Looks good. River is pretty close though. I think he is bluffing the river close to 100% with the blocker.